all be allowed. it is a point to remember that both of these are a mixed use neighborhoods. people live immediately adjacent to both pluses. they identified it as keeping it clean and safe. [chime] supervisor mar: which business brings the chairs at the end of the meeting? >> they don't bring the men, they are locked up. there isto lock them up, it is really unusual. every other place that as a public space is a restaurant and responsible for tables and chairs. they bring them inside and we don't have any place to bring the men. we bought them, and the 24-hour restaurant. the last three years, they have been locking up the tables and

chairs. that responsibility was shifted, people are sharing the responsibility. there will be sign-ins' that says chairs get locked out, people are drunk even at 9:00. we are allowed, we are supposed to be locking those things up. >> the movable tables and chairs? >> the cbd put them in. ]8f=ñthere will always be open .

supervisor wiener: could everyone make sure that whatever height you are, adjust the microphones to that you're speaking directly into it. >> i am a 40-year resident of the castro. i am here to support the legislation today and live like to thank scott for his support. i think there is nothing wrong with having structure in place. under this umbrella, that is all i have to say. supervisor wiener: you own orphan annies? >> right in the middle. supervisor wiener: i want to thank you for the unending hours you have put into helping maintain, clean, taking the

chairs, you guys have been tremendous. next speaker. >> my name is allison, i am a resident of the castro. i actually live closest to the benches than anybody in this whole room. firsthand experience here. i support the legislation because i feel there should be some rules to be had there. i am a reasonable person, i work full time and pay my mortgage on time and abide by rules every day of my life. there are really no rules there. i think that we need some, and probably, because of the conditions out there right now, i would like to see some strict ones. i will take what i can get.

it is really sort of an unsanitary area. to and fro my house, it is gratly affe -- greatly affected. the noise from people late at night, partying, trashing the place, we put up with a lot. we have acclimated to so much. and i don't think they were designated for partying all night long and screaming and yelling and li endttering. -- and littering. i would like to see them used and clean for people to use them, it is just a magnet for drugs, alcohol, skateboarders,

things that get -- i don't know. anyway. so i also think that -- [chime] supervisor wiener: thank you for coming down today. next speaker. >> hi. supervisor wiener: hold on one second. now you can go. the microphone is on. >> i go to harvey milk academy and i don't htink -- think harvey milk would like this and if he doesn't like it, we should not either. [applause] supervisor wiener: thank you. >> i did not write that. my name is jennifer, and the

director of the coalition on homelessness. i wish i could say i was happy to be here today, but i am really not. i am deeply saddened to go down the same a very tired, very difficult and very hurtful road. we have a huge crisis around homelessness and we have had it for three decades. during that time, since localities haven't been able to address it in a substantive way, how they are resorting to these kinds of things. there are hundreds of laws and dozens that are being applied against thomas people today. they are being applied against homeless people on streets and on sidewalks, in plazas, like jane warner plaza. like u.n. plaza. the impact on homeless people

has been devastating. at a time this kind of legislation moves forward, it stirs up anti-homeless sentiment. it opens up a discourse that separates folks that are too poor to afford a place to live from every other member of society. have it increases hate crime. we have to remember, who is homeless? disproportionately people of color, people that are disabled , people that are members of the queer community and people subject to all kinds of repression. we can say this is anything but anti-thomas. -- anti-homeless. who else is sleeping in public places?

everything is covered by state law, so why have this legislation? if for no other reason than political gang. thank you. -- gain. thank you. [applause] supervisor wiener: let me call additional names. [reading names] next speaker. >> my name is bruce allison, i'm opposed to this measure. i agree with what jenny said.

this would -- and $1,000 tax burden would be applied to 100 abandoned the and that's a better $1,000 a month tax for each abandoned units. and the money be put into a housing fund. >> ♪ won't you regulate it right at jane and harvey plaza as this item goes you know it has it won't you give up item fight and say goodnight ♪ ♪ when the item comes to this town it's bye-bye-baby ♪

> supervisor wiener:supervisor , mr. paulson. >> i don't have a song prepared for you, but perhaps i can do a dance. i have a letter that i like to submit to the supervisors. they are supportive of the proposed regulations for the plazas. as one of the neighborhoods closest, we are aware of the problems that exist because of the lack of rules that result from these plaza's not falling under the control of any city agency. it is signed by dennis richards, thank you. supervisor wiener: thank you very much.

>> i am the chair of the castro community on patrol, a volunteer organization to improve the safety and security of the castro. i have ideas that can be forwarded to the other commissioners. the thing i want to point out is that these plazas are both adjacent to residential areas. in the case of jane warner plaza, there are 12 apartments above the sidewalk. in the case of harvey milk, there is a condominium group that has their entrance on the sidewalk of the plaza. what we find is that without any consideration of the folks that live there, common sense and

decency are being able to have a time of day where people can have peace and quiet in their own homes as part of the consideration. also, from this month and the policethe statistics are lookint the statistics within a certain radius. more than half of the reported incidents are happening after 9:00 p.m. and the noise complaints with the exception of one complained have been taking place between 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. to align in consideration for the residents of that area, some basic common sense and rules and policies seem to make sense. thank you. >> good afternoon. i am a resident.

the woman who spoke about living on harvey milk plaza, i am the next closest person. i live on the exit. i have a bird's eye view all the time and i walk through six or eight times a day. i am familiar with what goes on. former speakers have been very eloquent. i would like to commend the tour guide who spoke about the safety issues that are there. they are real and they need to be addressed. in my opinion, as a resident of i'm not looking for quiet, peaceful place to live. i moved to the castro because of its vibrancy and diversity and is accepting and tolerant neighborhood. we need to address some safety concerns that are there. there does need to be some basic guidance. the ordinance is logical and i would support it wholeheartedly. i help you endorse them and

support supervisor wiener in his efforts to bring some common sense legislation among -- in these public spaces that are our friend yards. when a c>> ifor eight or nine years i was the president of the triangle association. i walk through daily or multiple times. the legislation is common sense rules let me to applies to these areas. we cannot have such heavily used areas as free-for-alls were all activity is permitted. i have seen many of the same abuses that have been described previously. i personally find it difficult to use the jane warner plaza because there are people smoking there and i have difficulty with

the cigarette and other smoke. the board over -- voted to support this legislation. i asked you support your colleagues and of this legislation forward. thank you. -- remove this legislation forward. >> i have owned a home overlooking harvey milk plaza for 27 years. my bedroom looks out onto the plaza. i have seen all sorts of activity over the years. the nighttime noise problem is an issue. drunken fights, broken bottles, there is a public health issue in the constant stream of urine that flows down the sidewalk. feces and, at which people from my building, in the condo which

has been spoken about have to clean up every morning. there are mounds of trash left overnight that people from the committee district board have to back up and carted away. it is a nuisance. public health issue. i wholeheartedly support any legislation, any regulation is better than the current situation there. thank you. supervisor wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> i am on the board of castro community on patrol. i am resident of the castro 12 years and have been a resident of san francisco. some of the people -- i am. ver of the legislation. i want to point out as one

gentleman mentioned earlier, there is something to the effect of johnny-come-latelies who are coming -- pushing these ideas. i want to reiterate the comments my colleague made about the number of instances that have occurred in such a short time within 500 feet of the plaza. and all between -- in late night hours were people would expect a certain level of peace. also have to comment i take that corridor between diamond street and market and the muni stationed at least daily. it is interesting. not only do the two clauses accumulate trash a special midnight, that spread tends to go up the street on market between collingwood and diamond. that area does not seem to get as much attention from dpw. it literally looks like a

landfill. it is important to remember that a sense of order and principles of community apply to everyone. there remedies to address -- there are remedies to address every situation. i do not think there is anything about this legislation that is targeting anyone. supervisor wiener: thank you. in terms of the area of market between collingwood and diamond because of some of the camping there, there was a trash problem and mta is focused on that in terms of starting to clean up the garbage. i have seen some improvement there. next speaker. >> could afternoon, said risers. i'm a 25-year resident of the castro and also homeowner in the castro. i am also court -- a member of

americans for safe access. the nation's oldest and largest medical cannabis advocacy organization. as a qualification of medical panic -- cannabis who suffers from migraines and a teddy, i am asking you to amend section 7 to allow medical campus patients -- cannabis patients to smoke and a prize in the plaza. my migraines come on quickly and my doctor has recommended i use it. eating medicated foods takes too long. whereas medicating by smoking or by vaporizing, it gives me great relief. if smoking cannabis, if you are going to smoke -- prince looking cannabis, i ask that people be allowed to vaporize. a portable vaporizing in it.

i've always been respectful of other people when i have medicated in the plaza. never have i had one complaint from somebody around me when i am medicating and have not had any problems with any of the other people. please create an exemption for qualified medical cannabis patients as myself. i am asking you to allow safe access to qualified medical cannabis patients in the plaza. thank you. supervisor wiener: and link the language is specific to smoking if i am not mistaken. i want to get your take on that. >> vaporizing is a different method than smoking. it is not the same thing. supervisor wiener: thank you. before we get to the next speakers some more names to line up.

alex walter, will dougherty, pete herman, and david h., dan jones, bruce smith, and [unintelligible] >> i turned one in. >> please do not speak out from the audience. >> please stop speaking directly to supervisor wiener. next speaker, please. >> i am a working class queer,

i live month to month and paychecks. i do not need to be further criminalize. i organize and work with tenants and bookstore cycling in and out of homelessness. this is a quality of life ordinance being for the 1% of the gay community at the expense of everyone else, mostly people of color and transgendered. everybody should not be the code word for rich people. if you need to sleep in the park, in need to sleep in the park. thank you. >> i am anna conda and iwe disagree with this legislation.

on the basis that it does not take into account the work that harvey milk put forward before creating a better city for all communities especially bc & g which margamarginalized communities and takes them out of the public sphere and a lager and kyrgyz them to be part of public discussion. these need to be looked at and maybe there should be continued while you find better ways to work on these issues. as far as drugs and drug issues, the castro would be a great place for the assumes -- safe use site. also, sweeping, as -- sleeping is not a loud activity. as far as noise i do not see how

keeping homeless people from sleeping there will help that. supervisor wiener: congratulations. i did not know if you were here at the beginning when i noted that we have received a letter from the harvey milk club that it contained an accuracy. there is no prohibition on setting on those benches or the ground. people can have whenever you with a what but i want to make sure that we're clear about what it does and does not do. >> it was because of that discrepancy i did not read the letter verbatim. supervisor wiener: i appreciate that. next speaker. >> i work with the coalition on homelessness and i do not want to pretend we're having a reasoned debate. this is for the benefit of people in the audience who may be misinformed.

you have been fed misinformation. nearly all the regulations in this law are covered by existing law. either state or local. this is not about love. it is not about lord -- order. it is an emotional response, and a motion the -- the motion of hatred. who lodges in any public or private places guilty of a misdemeanor. that is used against homeless people in plazas and sidewalks. that applies here as any other public space. it is a crime to [unintelligible] without obtaining a permit from the chief of police. well we call it a pavement and park plaza, it is still legally still street.

for the folks who are smoking, if i knew this was about a smoking ban would not have organized against this. your welcome to have a smoking law and you do. smoking is prohibited on any area of open to the public and under any jurisdiction of the department. under the general plan, even the applauses are recognizing these are open spaces. the requirements around shopping carts, it is regulated by the state and against a lot to have a selling shopping cart whether you know it is stolen are not. the only change in the faa's regulations are they can apply to legally on shopping carts of which there are several hundred in san francisco. >> good afternoon.

i am a young and low-income member of the committee who wishes i can live in the castro. i think that it has admirable goals and i wish it had access to six basis for everyone. achai did not realize how it cod be used in a certain way. i want to speak to some things that we can all agree on which is banning smoking. i was surprised to learn there are signs there that there is no enforceable anti-smoking law. as a young career person, there are many friends who smoke who think it is cool and do not think it is kind of catch up with them. my father passed away last year from lung cancer. he smoked his entire adult life and fought long cancer for two years. it was not a quick or easy or

painless death. having the non-smoking in areas that are frequented by clear people i think is a step in the right direction. as a person who is affected by secondhand smoke, it is important because i learned something recently about a different kind of second-hand smoke. one is mainstream which is exhaled after the smoker exhales and the other is sidestream. the redirect out of the thing you are smoking out of. that smaller particles and higher concentration of the carcinogens that can get into your lungs and affects your heart and blood vessels. it can lead to stroke and heart attack. whatever source of the smoke, it is a real danger. i want to make sure there is an enforceable way of making -- limiting smoking in queer

spaces. supervisor wiener: what think you and i am sorry to hear about your father. >> i am stardust. with all respect to the city attorney i cannot understand how it says smoking is prohibited including parks, scores, plaza or other areas and that would not already be covered under the municipal code. i think having a ban on smoking is one thing. this is not simply a ban on smoking. i have listened carefully to everyone who came up here and spoke about why they want this and what i hear is people are frustrated with what is happening. is noisy and there are people that maybe they do not like to have their and so on. this ordinance does not do anything to solve the problems those people are bring up xm for smoking. if the code does not already covered that.