congratulations. you are the fastest permit tonight. we are all going to be going down to hit some strikes and spares, i am sure. good luck to you. next permit. edmund chain -- edmond chang, doing buisiness as shabu pub. mr. king, you are up. what happened to mr. king? nicolas? go for it. >> there was a belated request for a cantonese interpreter. i am checking with the applicant to see if he wanted to proceed or not. vice chair joseph: do we have an interpreter? >> no. vice chair joseph: and you just got the request? does the applicant want a continuance? >> i just checked with him and

he said no. this is mr. chang, the owner and operator. this is a place of entertainment permit for karaoke. i'll turn it to him. vice chair joseph: mr. chang? do you speak english? >> a little bit. vice chair joseph: a little bit. can you tell me about your operation? can you tell me what you do? >> do like a restaurant. we just want to get some entertainment for the customer, light dinner entertainment. vice chair joseph: what kind of entertainment? >> singing karaoke. vice chair joseph: ok. anybody have any questions? commissioner cavellini: have you

had a karaoke bar before? >> yes. commissioner cavellini: i am sorry. i do not speak chinese. in san francisco you had a karaoke bar? or you have been working at a carrier could bar before? >> mostly, i do entertainment around the bay area for many years. commissioner cavellini: can you tell me where? >> san francisco, the masonic center. a chinese concert over there. at the city hall. at the palace. vice chair joseph: mr. chang, unfortunately, your application is not filled out.

many of -- i am going to say this the only way i know how. if you do not understand what i am saying, stop me. the application, the paper you submitted, is not filled out. there are many areas that you did not answer. for instance, what are your door policies is blank. describe your plan to control lines. tell everybody to keep quiet? that is insignificant application. i find that this application does not meet our standards. it is just blank. your application is blank. i have a problem moving forward

with this application. commissioner perez: you are required to do a neighborhood outreach and talk to your neighbors. you said you did not do any of return on your application. that is part of the requirement. you need to talk to your neighbors to ask about what you are going to do. tell them you are going to have entertainment. >> i posted a sign in front of the door more than 45 days. commissioner perez: that is not enough. you actually have to reach out. vice chair joseph: mr. chang, has any member of the staff of the entertainment commission contacted you about this permit? >> yes. vice chair joseph: when did they contact you the first time?

>> october. vice chair joseph: they told you you could not operate unless you had a permit. did you stop operating? >> yes. i just want to do the restaurant. i was confused that i still need an entertainment license for that. vice chair joseph: do you represent him? do you want to speak into the microphone? >> i am trying to clarify maybe a couple of things that were not made clear. mr. chang has an upper ridding restaurant right now. what he wants to do is to enhance for revenue, to add karaoke for the customers. i was not aware that it was not filled out properly.

he has an existing karaoke business. vice chair joseph: he does not have an existing carriers to business. >> in the sunset. vice chair joseph: 0 in a different location? do you know where that is located? >> on the caravel -- on taravel. vice chair joseph: is there anything further? anything further? >> on the application, some areas are not filled out because i am just a restaurant. that is why i do not know how to fill it out. vice chair joseph: you are not just a restaurant because you are actively operate in turkey without a permit right now, and so you are more than a restaurant. >> i just wanted to use the

karaoke system. i am doing processing on the application now. vice chair joseph: take a seat. let me open it to public comment, and then the commissioners can talk. i would like to hear from a permit officer first, and then i would like to hear from officer moore. >> commissioners, mr. chang was visited by me on august 13 last year. at that time, we warned him he was operating in a karaoke establishment without a permit. we advised him, as we do any time we come across someone operating without a permit -- we take the first step of information and education, as you have heard many times before. on august 13, we visited and explained the process. we said if he was going to do a

karaoke business, he needed to apply for a permit. he was revisited again on october 15 by myself and officer moore. at that time, he was continuing to operate without a permit. on the 15th, he was cited by officer moore for city permit required for operating a karaoke business without a permit. he did not submit his application until october 21. we have had numerous talks. we have warned him on the 13th of august. we warned him again on the 15th. and he was cited. officer more is here. -- moore is here. he can talk about other problems like alcohol sales on the second floor, which is not permitted. although it is not under the commission per view, there have

been questions about fire code violations, planning violations, and so forth. why don't i turn it to officer more -- moore? vice chair joseph: his karaoke bar on taravel, has that come before us before? >> i would need an address and a name to confirm it. vice chair joseph: officer? officer moore: good evening again. what the inspector just said -- he mentioned his first visit on august 13, where he advised mr. chang, and then when we cited him for the permit violation. in addition, they have an abc

license but have sales and consumption on the second floor. every karaoke room has been outfitted with plastic cups of vice -- of dice. there are also gambling tiles. i have photos. after i issued from -- issued him the citation, i received a recommendation for a place of entertainment. the former commanding officer at the station recommended denial, based on our previous encounters. he continued to run it as a place of entertainment. there were yelp reviews, people saying they used the karaoke

rooms after the citation occurred. i visited shabu pub during the days he said there was a sign posted outdoors. i did not see a sign posted. also, one of the rooms upstairs had been converted to a bedroom. there were several thousand dollars in cash, and what not, and also a small rear door that led on to the roof that the first level, which had a letter attached to the side -- a letter attached to the side to let you get out the back door, basically. there was a full shower, which had recently been used when mr. chang opened the door.

the mirror was steamed. there was a pair of women's panties hanging in the shower as well. anytime i have asked him about anything, he has changed his story numerous times. i can only assume he is lying to me. first he said the shower was for workers, if they had to stay late. he said the bed was for the same thing. later, he said it was for his own personal use. i have the photos. i have the of reviews. -- the yelp reviews. aside from that, his application is far from complete. we recommend it gets denied. vice chair joseph: thank you very much. can you take that from nicholas, behind you? for the benefit of the audience and our commissioners, i just

want to quote section 10 60.1, subsection may. -- subsection a. it is unlawful to conduct, maintain, or permit to be conducted any place of entertainment or one time event in the city of san francisco without first having obtained the required permit from the director or entertainment commission. the fact that mr. chang was notified in august and october that he was operating in violation -- thank you very much. is there any public comment on shabu pub, 3809 geary? >> michael nulty. as a neighborhood activist, i would either deny this or

continue it until the application was filled, and then find it for all the violations. obviously, he is not understanding all the business. i would talk to the city attorney about withholding his business license. vice chair joseph: thank you. is there any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. to staff, ramifications of the nile -- when can the applicant apply again? >> after nine months. vice chair joseph: 9 months? not a year? >> i think it is a year. vice chair joseph: ok. commissioners, i am perplexed.

if we continue this, we have to hear it at the next meeting. if the applicant continues it, it would come back to us when the applicant had cured all the defects. i am not sure what the address on taravel is. if we had a karaoke bar on taravel, i do not know if it is the same place. i am not inclined to ask, because we're doing with this location. i entertain a motion on this permit. somebody? >> i make a motion to deny. do you want to continue this or go forward with the motion? do you want to go forward? vice chair joseph: do you

understand what he is asking you completely? >> i am a business. i need help. >> i am asking you if you want to do your application and come back or want us to vote now. vice chair joseph: do you want to continue? >> which one would you like? >> i want to continue. vice chair joseph: you are asking us to continue it. is that right? >> would you like to come back with a new application, or decide now? vice chair joseph: i am really hesitant, because i am not sure he completely understands us. nobody here speaks cantonese, i am sure. guys? there is only one thing i can say in chinese. the building owner -- can you communicate with him correctly? >> he wants to continue.

>> he wants a continuance or wants to continue it right now? vice chair joseph: he wants to continue instead of us voting on it now? is that what you are saying? ok. so you would like to continue and reapply. i am entertaining a motion to grant the applicant's request to continue this to the applicant's -- the next time the applicant notify staff. >> so moved. commissioner tan: aye. commssioner lee: ayer. commissioner cavellini: aye. commissioner perez: aye. vice chair joseph: aye. you can go to staff and they will give you another application so you can get it to us, ok? you can call the office.

somebody give him a card. call the office during the day and talked to staff. they will be able to direct you either to someone who not only speaks cantonese, so it would help him, but also to manage the process. >> we have interpreters. vice chair joseph: call nicholas king of our office. do you have a card on you? thank you. next item on the agenda? thank you for sticking with us. 7e. forgive me if i destroy your name. anzhelika bisesi, doing business as playland. >> a new owner taking over the

space would like to continue operating with live music. >> marsha garland, representing the applicant. azheliknzhelika. that is jim, from the security company. they, as you know, bought this from kino's. with it came a few problems. they have been trying to rectify those problems. the main problem was a noise issue. they have spent significant money fixing the soundproofing. when they bought it, they inherited a musical lineup. they did not realize they had to have a separate permit, from business to business. the canceled all the acts. that included the holidays. they have done extensive

outreach and collectors of support from the merchants and residents and the community leadership alliance, which has a representative here tonight to speak about that. a letter of support from the lower polk neighbors and merchants association, and eight neutral position from the alliance and mid-polik. they have a very good security plan. their capacity is 123. they are there for the long term. the have put a lot of money into the property. they want it to be successful for them. the soundproofing has just about been completed. i will let you hear from them. >> good evening. a later evening than it started. vice chair joseph: good night

now. >> i am one of the new owners. listening carefully throughout this hearing, i gleaned a few more things, as things i was planning to talk about were brought up. earlier, there was mention of welcoming new owners to the area. this is what the ownership is here. i have a history of over 100 years in san francisco, with my grandparents, my parents, and myself. my grandmother was going right where the ball park was. my parents were both going in the city. i met my wife at the san francisco ballet. i and now vice president and attorney of hewlett-packard. i came back after college.

i came back into san francisco in the 80's. i came into the south of market area and a bodybuilding on south park -- bought a building on south park, up from the ballpark. vice chair joseph: i was a customer. >> it was a champagne and jazz cover club. full entertainment. full restaurant. open 11 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. at that time, obviously, there were two other restaurants. it became the center of the dotcom. we were known as the hon. we ran a successful operation at that time. circling back to san francisco, i look at this place. it is a challenge. it has a long history, and

definitely checkered. but what brings it back to the ownership proper -- staff was running the place. the owner was running the bands. our ownership has lived in san francisco every single day of his life in san francisco. he knows the city better than anybody i have ever met. anzhelika moved yourself out here and became a citizen just recently. she has been here 13 years, managing festivals and more. she has put her hard earned cash. she is going to be the bright light that makes our place. we have taken steps to outreach to the community. i have sat and talked in front of the lower poke.

-- polk. we have had almost universal acceptance. we have hired a security team. we are handling soundproofing. we are cleaning that corner up. we have taken great steps to improve the neighborhood already. there were days that had a lot of transients in front of the building. we chose not to be open between 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 a.m. we are going to be a respectable, clean bar. entertainment is an important part of what we do. the entertainment was run much differently. we are not planning to do seven nights a week, three bands. vice chair joseph: wrap it up. your life story is very interesting, but how does it apply to this permit? >> responsible owners make good neighbors, make good club

owners. the that is what i am trying to get across. vice chair joseph: you have hired a security company? what is their name? can i -- what is your experience with nightclubs? >> we have been in business since 1995. we have done nightclubs along the creek area, san francisco, east bay, oakland. vice chair joseph: tell me the name of two in san francisco. >> gold dust and [unintelligible] vice chair joseph: he told me two. that is all i asked for. any questions? >> it says hours of operation 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. do you mean 2:00 a.m.? but entertainment will be from

7:00 in the evening until 2:00 a.m.? the pm's and am's are all mixed up. you would want entertainment to be able to peck a we do not plan on having entertainment, but we are not looking to get conditions on our license for entertainment. >> we are open right now only until 4:00. >> are you talking about deejays, live music, or all of the above? live music? vice chair joseph: what did you do to soundproof it? >> we got double hung windows upstairs, and the same downstairs also. vice chair joseph: what else did you do besides double pane windows?

did you do anything to the ceiling, the walls between the windows? the you do any other soundproofing? >> there is soundproofing on the sides of the building already. we tried to address that with some quiet rock and some resilience channels. our ceiling will be sound tiles for acoustic. vice chair joseph: you have not done this yet, but you intend to do that? or are you just investigating and maybe won't do it? >> we plan on doing it. we feel it already was soundproofed. vice chair joseph: we used to get a bunch of sound complaints. so maybe not so much soundproofed. anything else? >> does the windows open? >> we put in a soundproof when a

company. that is what they have done. it is behind the existing window, 3 inches to 6 inches inside our building, to create a sound barrier. >> they basically cannot open anymore? vice chair joseph: that is actually a really good way to soundproof. >> it is what they do for sound studios. it works better keeping the sound in the room. it is far superior to what they had. vice chair joseph: any other questions? why don't you have a seat. i open the floor to public comment on playland, 1351 polk street. thank you for being patient. it has been a long night. >> our organization was approached regarding this

project, and subsequent to that, the project sponsors did contact us to schedule community outreach prior to that meeting -- outrage. prior to that meeting, we did extensive e-mail outrage -- out of reach. folks did time in. we did get two who complained about previous noise issues. but the project sponsors, i think we sat for well over an hour, discussing all points of the safety plan, as well as noise abatement issues. there was an individual who, during the meeting, was looking during the meeting, was looking at a live feed