and i don't really understand why, you know, the mayor's office doesn't want to put any actual small business people on the commission, they have given up thinking about that. any type of comment or points i have made, it is not personal toward anybody on this commission. you know, the commission that i serve with, they are all great people. really great people. but, you know, increasingly so, i'm more decreasingly involved because i have had my heart broken on this commission. i live and die by small

businesses, it is what i do every day. i don't really care that much about this commission anymore because i don't think it does that much. i think it is sad. we have a commissioner that has been here for several years, and she would like a tidal. she is involved with small business, so the board appointed her. i don't think that it matters -- i am not a moderate or progressive. for anybody to label me a progressive, it is silly if they looked at my voting record. if they label me a moderate, that is silly, too. my views change, i am interested in what makes sense. what is going to work for san francisco and the majority of san franciscans?

for the majority of small businesses? today, we have just seen a mayor who is overwhelmingly, easily elected who could have appointed a moderate to fill the district 5 supervisor's seat. as it affected me personally, i give mayor lee credit for saying that i am not going into this throwing stones and pointing fingers. having said that, i will probably be running for district 5 supervisor in ten months. this is where we are. we have appointed a very significant progressive today. a simple seat as vice president,

for multiple years in a row. honestly, it has become, ". i don't know what is going on behind the scenes, news flash. room 200 doesn't care about this commission. if anything, they want us to be quiet and go away. our job is not to be quiet and go away, our job is to represent people that are struggling to go through the daily chores, making jobs, paying bills, hopefully making some money. i was president two years and a rol - -in -- in a row. because nobody else wanted to do it. i was more than happy to share the ball and pass the ball off.

one-year was enough, it was fun to be president, i didn't need to keep it going. after i dropped off as president, i would want to be vice president for something else, but somebody else wanted to do it. i think it is great that everybody gets their shot at having that title. silly or not silly, beneficial or not beneficial, that is my two cents. commissioner clyde: i am very concerned that the commission, it will be very easy because of this -- can i say it? because this inability to share or -- what i don't understand is with strong communities or

strong leadership, the obvious leadership roles in the committee structure. there is also significant time commitment. i am concerned that both the president and vice-president -- or the structure simply flip flops, the time challenge will be continued. many meetings have been canceled because both commissioners had no time because they both have very significant of full-time jobs and they are simply not available or maybe not interested, i don't know. there have been many missed meetings. i really am confused why the strongest commission can't be formed. i don't believe this is the strongest team, and i believe it will be a much stronger team if we had an actual small business owner on the seat.

you know, it is in the interests of the strongest commission, and frankly, it is easy enough for a majority of the board the marginalize this position. there are two very strong positions for dea lot of work de very few opportunities and very few places for the really small business people to make their voices heraard at city hall. this fear, this reluctance doesn't make for the strongest commission. i find it troubling, frankly. it will be much, much easier to simply marginalize the commission and say, they are really out of touch. they will pick and choose where they come, and obviously

commissioner dooley will continue her work on the commission. i don't think it makes the strongest structure. we fought very hard to have the strongest commissioners in these seats. commissioner brian would not be the best leader for permiting or policy, i think he would be an excellent leadership in those roles, but having someone with experience in both roles is important, and it has to do with the credibility across the city. there are some big questions right now. commissioner dooley: i would like to say commissioner o'brien

is doing a great job as president, but i fail to see the benefit of him continuing to run for another executive's position. again he can do a great job. he has done a great job, but it is time to share, and i fail to understand why this would even been brought up but this point, and i am very disappointed, and i am also disappointed in the other commissioners, who know and i am qualified to be vice- president, yet would choose to just rotate the same to people in a position. i find that a deserving metered that disturbing in the same way janet side has mentioned -- i find that disturbing in the same way janet has mentioned.

commissioner o'connor: i want to make a point that sometimes when this commission seems to matter a little bit more is when actual supervisors feel they want to take third time to come here and present new legislation, and it is key that commissioners have relationships with supervisors in order to ensure supervisors show of and to take this commission seriously, so this is not a point of this or about. this is reality. this commission matters more when supervisors show oup, and i am open to additional comments about this point, but our would

go so far as to say about in my opinion supervisor mirkarimi and supervisor daly actually came to this commission more than almost any other supervisor, particularly when i was president, because i have personal relationships with them there was a personal relationship which made them take the committee more seriously. now we have a standing supervisor who clearly takes the commission seriously. i will also add that i initiated having david shoe added -- chiu added. janet clyde was on this

commission because she was a simple small business person who showed up at meetings more than anyone else, and it was absolutely obvious she would be great on the commission. was she moderate, was she progress of hamas -- was she progressives? who cares. she is smart, and she hustles zeroth. they are just titles. share them. dooley has distinct relationships with people on the board of supervisors who attend our meetings, present legislation in person, and not send a staff member who does not care, and and it matters to this commission, and i am sorry i did

not want to talk about much tonight, but kathleen dooley has significant relationships on the board, and that does end up mastering to all of of spirited -- to all of us. >> any commissioner, seeing none, i would like to add a few things. recently i heard the senator point out at the speech of the mayor won the election despite strength voting region -- despite ranked voting something like 60% to be mayor of san francisco.

it is an overwhelming mandate for the mayor to run the city the way that he campaigned, and i believe people ceassee someono wants to be conclusive, someone who wants to break down barriers, someone who wants to get rid of labels, just one label for everybody curator and we are all center insistence, -- and we are all san francisc ans. if he has to be stuck with the definition, he may say, i will to respectfully disagree, and our will continue towards working to a situation where sam francisco does not divide

people by progressive nor conservative or anything in between. of a lot has been made of that division this evening, albeit with a personal interest because i've put my name forward. i would love to see the day we do not have this discussion in a more -- this discussion anymore and the board makes appointees and that the mayor's office will do like wirese and of the commissioners will elect their president or vice-president with weighing in on what they think will bring to the table rather than anything about cross the boundary lines or anything like that.

i am disappointed i could not appeal to the members who are appointees. i would love to be able to get a unanimous rate, but i am putting my name forward because i love doing this work. i have put more credits in then i have been given credit for. i could have arrived for many more people to come here and testified. i did not. i elected to leave them alone. i just try to get my own support are offering what i offer on the table. a comment was made earlier.

meetings were cancelled because i was too busy or because the president was too busy. there was of least one occasion in a subcommittee meetings i asked to be deferred to another time and date because a commitment came octet i could not make. i have never missed one ministeute of a full commission since i joined two and a half years ago i came in at or before the meeting started and stayed until the very end to. no vacation has interrupted the record. no domestic emergency has interrupted a record, even though i have two children.

i have been at every single meeting since i have been a commissioner. i know my fellow commissioners know i am committed to the job. it is not about to title. it is partially about title, but it is about a lot more than that, and the site, they have lost faith in the commission, i feel the opposite. i am excited about what the mayor is saying. his focus is to narrow the focus of the commission and but to make it more powerful and. i want to be involved in that. i have also i asked a number of commission items to be brought to the table.

i want to be part of the process was the vice-president to the president who i know will be more than capable of going along with the program, and that concludes my comments. commissioner o'connor: again, i would like to acknowledge i think commissioner o'brien has done a great job, and the discussion we are having is not an analysis of that. there was the comment know about it is not this side of the aisle or that side of the aisle. is who is deserving, and i really wish life was about flat.

however, it is not. i found about out but today. in this particular case, you are both deserving. this whole thing is silly, because i do not think he really cares about us, and i have heard in dozens of campaigns in this city from the left, the right, how much they believe in small business. it is the big campaign, small and businesses, and babies, yet we are at the bottom of the totem pole in this building for

a variety of reasons, but my point is the importance of small business goes out the window once the game starts, but it is not just about one simple thing. in this particular case, it is. you are both very qualified and deserving, and bolten board of pointing thing, right now what i do not understand is how the board has approved three small- business owners, and the mayor has approve three pro-small business people who are not involved in that creek and mortar kind of thing.

as the mean you are less -- does that mean you are less of an advocate? no, but there is a difference. it is not about a mayor or a board of thing. we are far from being ideologues. as we know, 90% of the votes on this commission and 7-nothing. at one point could the board of supervisors say that? they are always provided --/. there is no one qualified to say they are more for small businesses than the other. and we are all for people, and i

do not see what the big deal is. things should be shared. commissioner o'brien, you are going to be on this commission for many more years, and there is going to be a lot of opportunities to resume in one of the leadership positions. i am simply asking that it be shared at this point with an actual small-business owner. our respective your desire is to stick to your guns, but it is not a matter of you being more deserving or her being more deserving. you are both deserving. you go on display at a significant commitment of advocating on behalf of small

and businesses and -- you both this play a significant commitment of advocating on behalf of small businesses. >> keeping track of where we are out, do we have public comment or not? i thought we have public comment. >> there was a motion but nose second. it is a new motion. my understanding is we would need to take public comment. >> that is to continue or not to mark >> the motion is to continue until the february meeting. >> shoo we continue roll-call? do we have public comment? of >> members of the public,

please speak your name clear earlier. -- your name clearly. parks are want to focus on the word balance. we are setting a bad precedents. i have worked with hundreds of small and businesses. i spoke to a woman who said the interest would not be there because of the way the commission was sent oup. if we continue along this path, and the small business does not have a leadership role. those people will no longer have an interest, because they will not think they will be able to obtain leadership roles. i tell you it is a dangerous

precedent to start. parks next speaker. your parks are would like to echo some of those statements -- >> i would like to echo some of those statements. it is not important politically for city hall, but this commission is vitally important for small business people like me. we come to this commission for guidance, to tell you what our plight is, what our employees mean to us, and i think to flip- flop is not going to be beneficial, although i commend to commissioner o'brien for doing a wonderful job.

he has seen pharaonic now professional. i do not think you will have a better commissioner than kathleen dooley. she has many coalitions that come to her. she has a lot of support from the grassroots level but rely on her. her phone rings off a hoax. -- off the hook, so it is vitally important and we have that resources to go to a. it has been my personal experience that very many coalitions refer to her.

i think it is not fair to flip- flop. i think commissioner o'brien is going to do a good job, but i urge you to a accept kathleen dooley as vice president. >> thank you. no further public comment. >> just reflecting on public comment, i will say every commissioner has strong skills, and the ones that will succeed as i hope we will continue to advocate for strong skills on a commission. i am very concerned that because of changes, a big money is ruling the day. goowhen you look at something le america's cup, it is going to be very easy to steamroll some

people, and there are going to be people who need advocacy, and it is not just america's croup there are massive changes coming, and i really think those small people who could easily be overlooked because there is a money coming to town, i think my concern is really about the people who will not have a voice unless we give those people a voice, and my comments are really proud allocated -- are really from public comment. someone who has a presence and works really strong for them,

because the medium sized businesses have all the advocacy they need. it is the small ones that do not. >> commissioners, we have a proposal on the table. chris, can you do a roll call on that? >> you made a motion to continue on february 2. commissioner adams 7-? [calling votes] commissioner clyde: no. commissioner o'connor: no. parks commissioners, the motion fails, and now -- >> commissioners, that motion fails, 3-3. fails, 3-3. parks there has been a systemic