commissioner kingsley: these speakers -- they are paid. is that correct? the department pays them? >> that is correct. i used the occ training budget to conduct the training, and it was at no cost to the other participants, because i have attended training at other departments, where i was not required to pay. whoever is hosting intends to pay -- tends to pay. she helped to facilitate. not in this case, because i knew enough individuals. she helps facilitate it being a well-grounded group. commissioner kingsley: in your opinion, because this is happening on a number of

occasions, where the department or the occ will have speakers or training that comes in that could be of great use to officers in general, or staff in general, with the police department. i am wondering if there is not a way to talk to the potential speakers ahead of time and get permission to do some type of either audio or video taping for just the initial presentation -- not the exchange or the workshops that would take place afterwards. i am just kind of throwing them out, so that in the future we can keep that in mind when we are talking to prospective presenters. >> i do understand your proposal, but the speaker's charge -- speakers charge based

on the number of participants. if they were to take it, they would not derive the benefit. and i have to say it would not be ideal to take this particular -- tape this particular workshop. it is an all-day interaction. she is asking for people to give frank and honest opinions about racial bias. she wants candida's from police officers, who often feel that they have been unfairly targeted with a racial profiling allegation. she wants a frank conversation with civilians who feel that they have been targeted by police officers with racial profiling. this is an opportunity in a safe

environment, facilitated by the doctor, for people to exchange their perspectives. commissioner kingsley: i understand what you are saying. there are these types of programs that are very sensitive and require a lot of interactions. i am just throwing out the idea, if there is some part of the presentation that is more background, but very informative and research- oriented. it may not be possible, with the structuring of the fees and so on. but thank you. president mazzucco: please call line item 3d. >> commission announcements. >> there will be no meeting next week on february 8. president mazzucco: i spoke with lt. -- i promoted you today. i spoke with inspector c'mon

row -- inspector monroe about a meeting we could do on the 29th of february. also, the next in line, a station we have not been into in a while, is park station, which covers part of the castro and the upper haight. there is a new captain there, captain john feeney. we will give him some time to get his feet on the ground and that his station ready. the location for that, we need to choose. i know inspector monroe will be working on that. i can move back to -- is there anything regarding our community meetings? i have something to discuss with items that add to the agenda. commissioner chan: it is good to

know we will be a part station and captain -- at park station. who should we reach out to? will he be reaching out to a lot of folks? i want to make sure we see the community and that the people, and help us get the word out. direct invites i think would help. president mazzucco: the merchants were very vocal at one point. anybody that wants to come forward. we would like to have the room full. the >> to follow up -- are there other avenues, not necessarily just organized groups, but the general public? we need to think about other avenues. do we maintain a facebook page

or other social media? we want the public to know. >> i agree with you 100%, although i think that we as a commission need to know the reality that we are on tv every week. i think the public has greater access to us then i have ever had. they know we are here most weeks, and can always come to city hall. when we are in the community, i want to have as large a turnout as we possibly can from people and ideas. you do not have to come to city hall. you can walk down the block. we need to do as much reaching out as we possibly can. everything from the merchants' associations to the community police advisory boards, and posting a flier, whatever it is. but we sometimes knock ourselves for not trying hard enough or getting the word out enough.

we can always try to do it more. but i do not think we should assume that if something is sparsely attended it is because the word did not get out. i think people know about us. sometimes they come and sometimes they do not. sometimes they no vacancy the issues on tv. >> a suggestion i have to work well once before was the beat officer passed out fliers. it is not quite facebook or social media. but that worked. >> i just wrote that down. president mazzucco: that generally works the best. commissioner kingsley: the other thing that i think will be helpful in terms of getting attendants up is to have our meetings program well in advance, six months in advance, a year in advance, know where we are going as early as we can in the year, and get that out to all the captains.

president mazzucco: great. discussion of possible action or schedule items for consideration. last week, we discussed -- a meeting took place with supervisor campos and members of the sfpd, members of the youth commission, and commissioner chan. we had dr. marshall as the leading expert in this. we talk about police and community relations. a lot of police have to deal with sro officers, officers assigned to schools. we need to talk more about that. i know the occ has some of reach. we received an e-mail, a nice letter from a young man who is with the youth commission.

they are proposing and would like to do a joint commission meeting with us, as we did once with the human rights commission, to hear from the kids -- what they think, and have the police present and hear them talk. being a parent, i understand what teenagers are thinking. a lot of interactions officers have are with teenagers. sometimes, teenagers do not see things the same as those of us who are older. i think it is nice for there to be an open dialogue and conversation, why the police officers do what they should. i spoke to supervisor compos about this today. he was pretty excited about it. i would like to propose a meeting with the commissions and supervisor campos. it is a very important meeting. we have seen cases where police officers to engage juvenile. kids tend to say things.

the cannot control themselves at times. it would be nice to hear from the kids and officers working with them. i would like to propose, and the youth commission would like to meet with us. they gave us some dates. i was hoping maybe if we could do it on february 15, our third meeting of the month -- >> i got a text message from the youth commission about march 7, if that works. president mazzucco: they have to do their homework, so we have to work around their schedule. march 7 would be -- commissioner chan: the first wednesday. i think they wanted that time so they can plan for it. president mazzucco: would you agree with doing that? i know supervisor campos would like to be part of it. it is dear to his heart. he suggested that supervisors kim, cohen, and avalos would also like to be involved in that.

commissioner turman: it is probably long overdue. i do not know how much we are going to appreciate it, but i think the young people will appreciate a chance to have their say. president mazzucco: what a schedule this, if we can, for march 7. commissioner chan: will the location be here? president mazzucco: we usually do it in the board of supervisors' chambers so we can fit both commissions. i look forward to this. i am going to defer a lot to dr. marshall, who is, for lack of a better term, a hero when it comes to this, his work at the bayview hunters point. he is a true sank in the world who deals with the kids. i listened to his show. he lets them talk and then he explains things. vice president marshall: i do a

lot of explaining. president mazzucco: it is going to be a good event. commissioner chan: i will let them know. president mazzucco: anything you would like to add? without further ado, we now are open for public comment on up items three a through d. >> i heard we augmented oakland pd this weekend on the occupy movement. is that correct? in >> we did not operate the primary operation. late evening, we deployed officers as a reserve unit who were not needed in the field. >> thank you. in reference to the budget, i think with the program, the drop

program, we will lose about 346 officers in the next two years. we have also had a lot of transfers and, if i am not mistaken, of 81 officers, give or take. >> i believe so. >> we also have an academy class that was approved by the budget. out of the class, we will probably actually get 25 to 30 officers on the street, hopefully more. in the long run, how do we look? >> as the captain discussed earlier, without funding the classes -- the biggest concern of the police department right now is our attrition rate. that is why we are committed to getting as many classes together as possible. it is a serious issue. the police department has traditionally hired in waves instead of being a constant. we have to get on track so we do not suffer from this again in the future. >> thank you, sir. president mazzucco: any further

public comment? good evening, emil. >> good evening. thank you for letting me speak this evening. i have lost part of my voice, so bear with me. i have listened to your four parts, based on the reported that is a fine hypostasis that the number of crimes have gone down. there may be some link, but it seems the bigger one is that the federal gorman in some shape and form, based on the population in prison today, which one-third is illegal aliens, is to enforce federal laws. in the state of california, and one-third of the california prison population are illegal aliens, committing basically felonies. two, a light to bring up that

the police department does not act on itself. there are other crimes related communities. i would like to see the police department expands the special police -- the police officer is about that are doing the work, but that is being done by regular police officers right now. it would relieve some of the pain, where according to the civil grand jury, we will be phased into bankruptcy bose -- based but -- on those pensions of the policemen and firemen. if you look at the 10 most wanted men, you will not find any caucasians on it, or you will find one or two. they are mostly others. how are you going to catch these

people. those are the facts. so to be sensitive about situations like this, i am not sensitive to the criminal. i am sensitive to the victim, regardless of the race that he or she is, and the police department has to look at that in that light. last, i have filed occ complaints, -- let alone hundreds. it will never functioned properly until it is separated from the police commission and the police department. investigators come up with the zero, almost nonstop, and particularly in sevener eight cases of mine in the over 40 years i have been in the city and county of san francisco as a resident of this county and city. i think you have to look at this in proper light.

you have to look at the finances as well. president mazzucco: 80. any further public comment? >> i agree. we do need more police action. i would like to see more police on duty, targeted on high crime areas. tough action of police officers towards all criminals is what we need. public safety is an issue. do not take it lightly. there is a lot of crime out there. there is a lot of drugs being imported into san francisco. there is a lot already here. we need our police officers. we are proud of our police officers, as well.

criminals will only laugh at what if you just stand there and what -- walk a beat. they already do. there are people in the community who do not think it is right that they laugh at the law. like me. it will only get worse. if you do not start now being serious, you will end up with a crime wave that will be completely out of control. it is already almost there already. if you walk around many different districts, you will see so much crime, it is really bad. update york trading. i gave you a pice. -- piece. some of the officers are carrying guns that are too

heavy. they can cause hip hop problems. they are easier to hold and to carry, as well -- they cause hip problems. when we cannot and a crime, the military has to step in. it will cost more if the government and military have to step in to take down crime when it gets out of control, so please, think about what you are doing, addressed the issues, and keep the citizens safe. there are a lot of children, a lot of good people that are in bed areas that do not have the right or the money to move anywhere. they are stuck in a bad. that is just filthy. crime. our generation of children have to be thought of, so does the world, so if you do not think now, it will be serious. you have to take crime down. you have to look at it

seriously. thank you very much. president mazzucco: thank you. any further public comment on these items? seeing none, public comment is closed. please read line item number four. clerk: a discussion regarding implementation of language access services. president mazzucco: thank you. i will turn this over. >> thank you for giving us this update and for preparing it. i also want to recognize that we have a couple of folks an audience in have come here to give an update from the community about how language access is going. we also have someone from the occ with a recommendation. >> good afternoon. i am the department language officer. i am here to give you an update on the department's records to

make our service is fully accessible to link -- to limited english proficient individuals of the city. the protocol for providing this in accordance with a language access ordinance is detailed in our general order, 5.20. recently, the department discovered a form that was not translated into the five core languages. it was entitled unlicensed drivers, hold harmless. the language access officer has received this from eight approved vendor, and a request for immediate translation has been submitted and approved. during the last update to the commission regarding implementation of a general order 5.20, commissioner chan raised concerns about calls for

service that involved lep persons and number two regular reports about the it department language access at birds. regarding data collection, a general order 5.20, part 0, number two, they shall collect lep data, and those that require an incident report. i am sorry. lep stands for limited english proficiency. regarding these contacts, they are, number one, spreadsheet provided by a telephonic interpreted service, number two, computer assisted dispatch records where is certified language person is used, and number three, a survey filled out by every department member

assigned to the bureau. out of the three, the most accurate services are the spreadsheet and the computed s -- computer assisted dispatch records. please be aware that telephonic interpretations far outnumber at the scene usage of bilingual persons. unfortunately, language services asks department members to provide either a case number or another number before any interpretation takes place over the telephone. as you know,cad, computer assisted numbers, both composed of nine digits, and the first two indicate the year of the gregorian calendar. emergency management dispatch. on either hand, a case number is only generated when it is

involving an incident report. the spreadsheet provided by language services does not specify whether a call for service involving telephonic interpretation resulted in an incident report. therefore, the language access officer faces a severe obstacle in collecting the kind of data required by number two. to overcome the obstacle, the language access officers submitted a memorandum in january to his superior asking permission to have services change one of the pre questions. they should not ask for a case number or a cad number. instead, they should ask only for the cad number, and then they can remotely looked up the numbers and determine if an incident report is made.

the language access officers currently awaiting -- excuse me. i have been recently informed that the administration has approved that, so yes, today. commissioner: we are not waiting. >> also, using a survey for members of the bureau to calculate data. dispatch service or members of the airport bureau is provided by san francisco international airport communications staff. as a dispatchers are not part of the department of emergency management. additionally, they use a different computer assisted dispatch system that is compatible with the system used with the san mateo county law enforcement community. the reason behind that is

because it francisco international airport is within san mateo county. as a result, the san francisco police language access officers cannot access data from the airport dispatch. therefore, on january 3, 2012, myself and one of my supervisors, we had a meeting with the airport dispatch supervisor. the airport dispatch supervisor indicated a mechanism can be put into place where sfpd contact with lep could be used. however, a supervisor added she has to receive approval from her superiors before any further action, and i have yet to hear from the supervisor and will be anticipating to contact her next week -- i am sorry, tomorrow. and regarding regular reports to the police commission, the

department commitment to the general orders is unshakable. therefore, we are making every effort to overcome the obstacles and to collect the data so the language officer can provide a precise reports dictated for the police commission. commissioner: thank you. thank you. it is great that your problem solving. i wanted to see if any other commissioners had any questions before we ask some people from the community to come on and shared things. any questions? ok, thank you, officer. we may call you back for a few questions. >> thank you.

commissioner: we have beverly year, and you did present to us last time. thank you for taking your evening to come back. >> i am honored to be here, and anything we can do to work together with the police department and the commission to approve language access, we are so pleased to do so. thank you, and good evening. we were here in the first week in december, and i think we have made lots of progress. i want to start by thanking the officer. i think he has been so proactive and has shown incredible leadership around this issue. i think one of the first pieces of the recommendations that have been implemented is that we are having a meeting tomorrow at mission station with the community. language access officers, and some inspectors and lieutenants, agreed, from the special bid terms unit, so that is happening tomorrow at 11:00, so the

recommendations are already starting to move forward, and we are excited about that. i also wanted to make sure that some of our other advocates that have some anecdotal information to share with some other communities as well have some time this evening, so i am excited to share some experiences from one of our consortiums measures, and they were quite a lot in the spanish- speaking community, and i want to bring one person with us to talk about some of the aniston of information she has received to give us a better picture of what survivors of domestic violence to our lep might be facing. and then i believe that heidi has a global perspective that she would like to bring to us, as well. thank you.