festival's macaws. thank you. supervisor mar: thank you. alex rosenthal? >> thank you, represent festival producers, event promoters, entertainers, and fans. i am here to emphasize the importance of the outdoor festival to the san francisco music festival. as the supervisor noted, they are an essential part of the local economy. i believe the referenced the study that came out, which we also support. today you will be hearing from san franciscans from all over the city that love these outdoor festivals because of their importance. many of these folks are from the richmond and sunset neighborhoods. you will hear from san franciscans whose livelihood depends on these festivals.

carpenters, state workers, a restaurant workers, convenience store owners, and performers. they will tell you that golden gate park is for everyone, not just the neighbors that live around it. i would like to ask the folks in the room if you are in support of the upper festival. a pretty powerful statement, there. thank you very much. we have at least 45 folks in the overflow room. we know that these festivals affect nearby neighborhoods and that the city works hard to coordinate and minimize the impact on neighborhoods. it is a tough job, but our city departments to this as well as anyone in the country. we want to make sure that real impacts are addressed, but please do not consider any measures that would restrict the ability of the 99% of us that would benefit from using golden gate park in the manner in which it was intended.

we circulated a petition over the last couple of days and received over 1100 signatures for each of you. i urge you to read the comments, which are attached here. [tone] they are very moving. supervisor mar: thank you, mr. rosenthal. supervisor cohen: thank you, your comments helped me to jog my memory. promoters are in the room, as well as representatives from rec and park. i wanted to call your attention to the lovely park called mclaren park. the second largest in this beautiful amphitheater. it is also publicly excess will through transportation. maybe one of the things that they do is they can begin to look at a more equitable way to distribute the outside festival- type music, really utilizing all the resources that the city has

to help to relax some of the bergen beckham fall on the sunset neighborhood. i will put that out there. would love to have you on the southeast. supervisor mar: next speaker, but i know that there is jerry garcia day and another event that his formal? supervisor cohen: it is on the side. supervisor mar: can we have the small business commissioner? janet clyde? >> good afternoon, supervisors. thank you very much. first, as a small-business owner, i have a small business in north beach. i can tell you that our business improves from the wednesday and thursday before these large festivals, and does not stop until the monday and tuesday after. we have a significant, city-wide small business tourism impact that is felt because of these

multiple festivals. that is my small business commissioner have that i would like to speak out as a parent. i have an 18-year-old daughter that grew up on power to the people. is where she learned her skills, her social skills with her peers and where she learned to behave out in large club -- large crowds and in public. she and her friends are all college students now. her friends are in montreal and hong kong, where 18-year-old are legally recognized as adults. her experiences attending these festivals were so important to her growing up. you know that there are limited recreational opportunities for young teenagers in that adult time. these festivals were just very important to our young people's social and cultural development. it opens their minds. that being said, i would just

really caution new not to make things not accessible to our younger people. the other thing that i would like to say is that there is a year round effect to these festivals. i do not believe that san francisco's life would be nearly as vibrant without hardly strictly bluegrass. it is a major, year-round industry that really needed help. [tone] supervisor mar: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is robert. i am a five-year sunset resident at the height of the festival and the former director of the northeast jazz festival. the first thing that i want to mention is that i do a lot of traveling and i go to a lot of festivals around the country. some of the older ones have been in different communities longer.

they deal with these issues over a long period of time. primarily the main issue that comes up is -- can i park in front of my house in my neighborhood? i am surprised we have not heard from anyone on that today. i think it is one of the biggest issues for neighbors. they want to park in their neighborhood. in new orleans, residents deal with it by cutting trash cans in front of their house. eventually, new orleans develop a specific neighborhood parking exclusion the zone for the areas around the fair grounds so that neighbors could only park in those areas on those dates. everyone worked around it. this is something that we need to consider for the dates of these festivals. specific parking for residents in those areas. the other thing that i would mention in the travels is how little impact i saw from these festivals.

as someone who lived at 41st and lincoln, i had an easier time getting downtown than i did during the construction on lincoln ave. these festivals are enormous the well organized into a great job of mitigating neighborhood impact. if you need take them to death, you could probably squeeze more money out of them, perhaps. putting midsized festivals of the business entirely. my recommendation is that we leave them alone and attempts actually help them. thank you. [tone] supervisor mar: thank you. i will call a few more names. the entertainment commissioner, glenda -- [reads names]

supervisor mar: supervisor ma next speaker. >> i wanted to speak from the perspective of the local artistic community.

one of the things that the bay area festivals in particular have been incredibly great at is creating a sustainable environment, a sustainable festival, not just economically, as we have heard people say. also, artistically, no one has mentioned that yet. at a time when the bay area work force and artistic community has been struggling, we have seen a mass exodus of artists leaving town in leaving the area. particularly outside lands has provided a world stage for local artists of the past year, including 25% of its lineup being reserved for local artists. i have played every festival in america, and i do not think i have seen that yet. it is very important to note.

i am a proud, lifelong citizen of the bay area. i just want to say that being able to play power to the peaceful, being able to play outside plans for the other festivals in golden gate park has given us a unique perspective and a global platform, transforming my platform and putting on a totally different trajectory. going from a homegrown local talent to win international recording and touring artist. the fact of the matter is that these festivals launch careers and create bay area's success stories. like as said, i have performed at hundreds of festive group -- festivals worldwide. i can tell you that very few have espoused -- [tone] supervisor mar: thank you. i am a big fan of that as well. thank you for speaking of it.

kathy howard? >> good afternoon, commissioners. supervisors, sorry. wrong meeting. i am part of the golden gate park preservation alliance. we have done site visits for the major festivals over the last five years. these are available through our web site, golden gate park preservation. our main concern has been the health of the trees and vegetation. there has been progress, but there is still room for improvement. why is the part so popular for festivals? because it is a beautiful place. the beauty is because of the trees. how are trees impacted by festivals, many festivals this

large them out tree roots spread from 1.5 to two times the height of the tree during in the essential mass is in the drip line. 85% of the tree's roots are in the top 18 inches of soil. compaction of this soil is the result of poor tree health, or death. this is a photograph from the heart be strictly bluegrass festival this year. a cyprus at the eastern end of helmand hollow. this area is typically used as a pathway for traffic, car traffic, truck traffic, to make it accessible for people. it also refers to the tradition of the tree when it dies, hollow. one final question, how long

does it take to replace a tree like this? a trick question, of course. the answer is 60 to 80 years. if we value the part in setting for these festivals, we must value the trees. thank you. [tone] supervisor mar: thank you. next speaker? >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is gene garish. my family and i have lived in that same house for 15 years. i am here on my own behalf, as well as the behalf of a large number of members who have spoken to me. there are two things i want to talk about. some things that you have already heard that i would like to emphasize. then a comment about these proceedings in general. three issues that we are concerned about.

first, community outreach. my understanding is that contrary to what has been stated, there were not nearly enough community outreach efforts this year, which needs to be carefully looked into. asking for information about community outreach efforts, so far i have not gotten a satisfactory answer. particularly parking, traffic, noise, illegal camping, trash, illegal activity, drug use and drug sales, and complaints about petition response from the department of public parts in general. that there'd issue has feet -- the third issue has to do with compliance. some of it is documented in material i will leave with you. we want to be heard. those of us in the neighborhood want to be heard.

you have heard from the police, muni, ddt, but not much from the neighbors. it is unfortunate that we are given only two minutes in this room for over one hour. we feel that we can have a positive effect on these events. we are trying to minimize tons of trash, drug dealing in doorways, traffic and parking nightmares, and so on. looking for the city, local merchants, music lovers -- i include myself in that -- for all neighbors to come together and work this out. the last thing that i want is to divide the neighborhood. i want to underline that. other people i have spoken to say the same thing. it is too bad that this has become an us forces them situation. going forward, i hope that we

can all come together to do events that do as little harm as possible. thank you for your attention. supervisor mar: thank you. next speaker? i will call a few more. [reads names] >> hello, my name is brecht. in a strong supporter of live music in seven cisco and in the surrounding areas. i wanted to speak to a few things in san francisco. the inheritance of music as a pillar of this community is uncontested. this acknowledgement on an international level and anyone that it tends heartbeat strictly bluegrass can feel this

when they are in attendance. it has long played an important role as a vessel in the community. a great partner in steward in maintaining the musical heritage of golden gate park on a cultural and physical level. i think it is a wonderful thing. there will always been a few things that can be approved. both of these groups are obviously proactive about this. simply put, the people of san francisco enjoy what they provide. thank you. supervisor mar: thank you. next speaker? >> i will be speaking to you on four different levels. thank you for your time. what rate support that showed up during your time. i have lived in the sunset

district for my entire life. particularly in glen park. i have grown up in joining these events. living in the neighborhood, i have no negative impact that i can share. the festival is two blocks from my house and it is great to see outlying neighborhoods in the sunset district. the second level but i want to talk to you about, in a small- business owner. we produce all with local artists. this is the biggest weekend of the year. we have support from san jose to oakland. they have nothing but did things to say about it.

leading up to this event, all families are excited about it. it is worthy small on our level, something for three-five-year- old, they can take part in this safe environment. as a longtime surfer, the outside provided the beach clean up every morning. trying to make sure their support extends beyond bowling gate park. [tone] supervisor mar: thank you. >> i am a manager of a local

rock'n'roll group called the stone foxes. the perspective of the local music community, many of these bands are small businesses in their own right. in this day and age, without that ability to get in front of a huge global audience, you are taking out a piece of the pipeline in the growth of local bands and eliminating something that has helped them to expand to the rest of the country in the world. this has allowed us to go on national tours and spread the music to the rest of the country. other local bands to support us, and it perpetuates music and sustainability within the musical community and is very important to consider, how they

affect triples from the top. and if they will be offered slots in turn to give back to the community. the expression of how important music is in that regard, from the perspective of local businesses, when you look at bands that way, it is extremely important to their sustainability to have that opportunity. thank you. supervisor mar: thank you. next speaker? >> my name is john white. i operate a non-profit that teaches music in technology skills to young people. i would like to say -- thank you very much for your time today. san francisco is an international city, a world cultural center. the park is the backyard for every one that lives in san and cisco.

and i think that it is important for all of you in the park to be expected to follow strong rules about security in cleanup. thank you for your time. supervisor mar: thank you. >> i am william [unintelligible] i have lived [inaudible] late '60s. i live one block from golden gate park. i am addressing only our lands and the noise. earlier there were two remarks that were made. i am all for having it at mclaren park. you mentioned being a neighbor in getting along.

selling the family home, there are issues involved. it is not as simple. there is a noise ordinance. the city itself identifies noises as an environmental pollutant. unwanted, excessive, and avoidable moist. the recommended home level is 45 decibels. at 90 decibels, extreme exposure may result in hearing loss. your damage can occur at 110 decibles within 15 minutes of exposure. regular exposure to more than one minute risk permanent hearing loss. that is from the chair -- children's hearing institute. 110 to 120.

[tone] 12.5% of children, ages 6 to 19, have permanent ear damage. our lands is worthwhile. but it should not exist in the residential. it should not be allowed to perform in a residential area. [tone] supervisor mar: thank you. >> i appreciate your time. supervisor mar: thank you very much. london hide? >> hello. thank you very much. in london hide and i am the neighborhood representative in the commission. i just really want to encourage the neighbors to participate in

these events. maybe not go to them. i have lived along the route of the beta breakers for many years, and have had friends that live along the route. each year, we would have a big sale or yard sale. as these people came by, we would raise money for the community housing partnership, protecting the neighbors in the two adjacent houses from urination, garbage, and stuff like that, enhancing the community in raising funds. these are well-noted events that are put on a calendar in advance. i would like to encourage the neighbors to take a proactive approach in helping out the neighborhood. maybe a community group, having something like a bake sale. i will say that one year we made $1,000 charging $10 to use the bathroom. [laughter]

i do not know if there is a way for neighborhood organizations to rent a porta-potti for the day, but there are solutions in these communities and they should get together to benefit everyone, helping to maintain the integrity of these festivals. [tone] supervisor mar: thank you for the great work on the entertainment commission. mr. richard roth men? >> thank you for having me here. i live at 38 avenue, right off the park. monterey this week, not off the golf course, by think that mta should use the parking model that they use. i will let go into detail, but i think that they have outside parking far away. i am here about the noise. i think that people can do whatever they want as long as it does not affect me, but this year the noise was really loud. as far as community outreach, i

did not know anything about the outside submissions. harley-davidson, i did not know anything about that until i read it in the newspaper a week before, two weeks before. some lady heard the music and the sound, whenever you want to call it -- i call on friday afternoon and the person was very nice. nothing happened. i called for talks -- saturday morning. the person was very nice and nothing happened. i e-mail eric mar., and the mayor's office -- supervisor mar: i know that they said they had methods to try to address it right away. sometimes the speakers are dealing with other things. >> we could hear the music with an hour -- we could not even listen to television, it was so loud in our place.

i have a solution, the entertainment commission has a sound engineer and they should go through them. the entertainment commissioner engineers should be in charge of the sound, so that there is an independent. even the police, when i call, they have no say in the sound, because it is issued by park in iraq. i think there needs to be some control of the south. i am happy to have them. but we need to do something about the sound. [tone] supervisor mar:. and you. next speaker? >> i reside at 19th avenue.

regarding the concert, there are two distinct problems. with regards to the noise pollution, it has to be acknowledged that the sound is designed to be felt, as much as listened to. there is an extremely highly amplified bass and drums component. the effect of the sound on residential structures is akin to forcing residents to live inside of an acoustic guitar for days and nights. the latter than the television played at normal volume, it cannot be suppressed by your plugs. moreover, they are not responded to in real time. the solution is available. concert promoters must pay for an independent, certified sound measuring company that can quantify the extent of the noise pollution, when noise is measured in town to be too high.