having said that, i just want to make one suggestion and have raised three children there. we all enjoy the park, it relies the part does not belong to us. it belongs to the citizens of san francisco. my only suggestion is we have more traffic control, particularly at intersection where there is very low lighting and no stoplights, and i am speaking specifically of crossover drive. as people leave the festival, there is very little lighting, and it is anyway a very dangerous intersection. i would like to see more traffic enforcement, and as a previous speaker said, i would love that the richmond residents could park and not get tickets. thank you very much. supervisor mar: and now we have the planning department from richmond. >> my name is -- from the

planning department of richmond. we worked with the concert. they came to us, and we worked on mitigating issues that have happened. you all got the letter that explains the different issues that we have mitigated with a couple other community groups. that is something that we have worked on, and we have worked on in all of the years. pahang a couple years ago, others were brought to us to work to make that concert even better for us and to mitigate issues, and we work very well in concert -- yes, in concert. there is a pun for you. if you have noticed, one of the things i can say is that the noise issue is always going to happen because it is a concert, there is music, there is noise,

but this has changed over the years because the concert promoters have listened, and they have worked to fix these. i know that they will come to us again this year, and we will work with them and see what we can do to help. that is what we do as a community organization, and the promoters have been wonderful, always open to talking to us and there to listen to our needs. thank you. supervisor mar: thank you. before the next speaker, i see a person year from an entertainment group. thank you for being here. >> chair mar, members, i moved to second and fulton, and i resided there for five years, and i really love the park and the solitude of the park, but

historically, especially in the 1970's, i really loved the big gatherings. there was the concert that took place at the pavilion, where phil gramm came in and brought in bob dylan and the grateful dead and the starship and 20 other acts and basically save the san francisco sports program in the schools and raised a whole lot of money. then there was the unity festival in 1975, when i was still living at the park, where the grateful dead and the starship played for free. an amazing time. my favorite weekend of the year is the first weekend of october. i would never miss it. that is because of hardly strictly blogger's. when i started going about five years ago, what i remembered was that it reminded me of a simpler san francisco, a simpler, gentler time, a friendly time,

where there are no hassles. never seen a fight. i have been there for hours and hours and hours. i have never seen it came during -- never seen angry and pushing people. i was amazed at how big the bike lock up was, and this is a wonderful lesson for our city, and we need to cherish it. we really do. let's help people have better festivals and more festivals in the park. supervisor mar: sir? >> i remember when my father taught me how to ride bicycles. you may remember this. ♪ some parks may be large or

small go ask the parks commission when they were just small, when the park place tells you which concerts to go, and you might been there, and you are listening, and you are watching them go ask the park manor when it was small and before the concert began, remember john mclaren who brought in the sand. fix it up, and land use, today, today ♪ and ♪ if i were a park carpenter, and you did a concert

with wavy gravy, would you fix it up anyway? would you fix it up maybe? save my part through everything, save the park through soros, so will you not fix it up, fix it up for tomorrow? ♪ supervisor mar: thank you. [applause] from the carpenters. >> good afternoon, chairman, and supervisors. the carpenters' local 22. our part in this is for economic reasons. all of these events, which are monarch -- one more reason why people from all over the world come from san francisco, are set

up and taken down by carpenters. this is our work. this provides thousands of hours in set up and take down for each one of these events. to take this away is to take away jobs from the brothers and sisters of mind right here, right before you. we ask that you keep these jobs in san francisco -- that you keep these events in san francisco, in golden gate park. we think it is a good thing. we have been here a long time, and we plan on staying. supervisor mar: thank you. next speaker. please come forward. and, sir, if you would like to make any comments, you are welcome to, as well. >> my name is -- and i am a part owner of -- i was not going to talk today because we are still grieving the loss of him, but i

just wanted to say, thank you for your support. he is a really generous man, and what he did across the city, not just for music, is wonderful, and our interest is to work with the neighbors and work with the park, and for the event to continue. he was gracious enough to leave us a fund that i and another partner have the availability of, and we really want to do it and get back to the joy and love of music. it is what warren would want, so that is all i want to say. thank you.

supervisor mar: thank you. it was great seeing him honored along with others at the end of the grammys. would you like to speak? i know there have been a number of issues raised, and i know that they are trying to address the various issues. one issue that was brought up was noise and the decibel levels, and maybe there'll be another mechanism for monitoring and adjusting it. i also heard a couple of suggestions on some other festivals, to look at different parking and traffic methods, and then i think commissioner sandy fewer made mention to pay attention to a key transit difficult areas, especially as the events stop and begin. >> thank you for that

opportunity, a supervisor. i think the idea of a residential parking zone for the areas surrounding the park for events, i think that is an interesting one. my first thought on it is that it might require legislation, something that may be outside the jurisdiction of the recreation and parks department. i think we would have to do a thorough analysis on what the impacts would be, people parking in their driveways, coming slightly over. it is a very interesting idea, and there are questions for accessibility. the reason why it is illegal to block the sidewalk is to make sure there is an accessible route for travel. perhaps we can look into that. supervisor mar: i will make sure

that my staff and i follow up with you. >> we do monitor the sound levels throughout the neighborhood. we do monitor sounds at the mixing board, basically at this stage, and then, in 2009, we did have an independent consultant to review the sound effects of that particular of such a concert and has informed us as we move forward with each event, each festival, the findings. supervisor mar: and i know that a number of people said that there is staff that can monitor the decibel levels, and the recommendation is that the general manager give out the cell phone. i am wondering, how do you think we can improve the quick response if there is legitimate questions about the decibels being too loud, especially in spots that are too close to the

park? >> it is working with people to make sure that their voices have been heard. i think the outreach process that we undertook was very much a two-way street. a lot of the ideas that have been implemented have frankly been ideas that the community have developed and that we have incorporated at their suggestion, and i think it is continuing each year that we go forward with these big festivals. we get more data about the sound impacts, and is not just looking at today. we have 12 event days of data, and it is how we coordinate that in today's 13, 14, and 15 next year. supervisor mar: i know that the sound study that was done in 2009 can be incorporated, and i know others are here, so i will do my best to make sure that we are following up. if there are complaints, we

could check the decibel at key spots, like in 2010. >> yes, we do check those. i would say, having the entertainment commission permit these demons or be sort of the regulatory authority, i imagine that would actually require a charter amendment, aimed mandated power that is given to the recreation and parks department. supervisor mar: thank you. ms. cat jumped -- ms. ketchum? >> living adjacent to the park. it is not big enough to accommodate these events, but, for instance, we have taken like the mission creek art festival, and they are now down there, so

our eyes are out, and we have some ideas on how to have it work a little bit better, and i would love to talk to you about it at some time. >> i would enjoy that conversation, and really my purpose in mentioning that is expanding people's minds when thinking about the live music. the overall tenor of the conversation is that people are in favor of it. you are right, it is a much smaller venue, but hardly strictly bluegrass started off small and then group. maybe we will get to a point where it will no longer be able to be held at mclaren park. thank you. supervisor mar: and i know one other issue was about better notification about traffic flows and also just better noticing, so i will make sure we are working with redskins park --

with recreation and park. there is something they have done that is very effective. the emails to concertgoers and recommend alternative transportation and the different shuttles that you have used, really tremendous models that i think other festivals can take advantage of. i will say that this has been an eyeopening hearing. a lot of the issues were brought up to to 2.5 years ago. we will continue to work with the departments to look at the concerns and mitigating them but also in encouraging them to work with neighborhood groups, like you have done, but even improving on that as we move forward. thank you for being here. any wrap-up comments? colleagues? supervisor wiener? supervisor wiener: it seems that

people are in support, and it is just a manner of doing it and a certain way. we are as a city so grateful for his gifts to the city of hardly strictly, and i remember when i met with him early in my campaign, he only had one question. he said, "are you going to mess with my festival?" absolutely not. we all cherish it as a city, so thank you. supervisor mar: ok, colleagues, let's continue this to the call of the chair. madam clerk, mentioned earlier that we will take no. 5 before a number four, so please call item no. 5. clerk miller: item number five, a hearing on the moderate and middle income housing project

with the retention of jobs in san francisco. supervisor mar: we will give people a couple of minutes to walk out as quietly as you can. thank you, everyone, for exiting as quickly as you can so we can get started. and if we could have the door closed, we could begin our next

hearing. supervisor wiener? supervisor wiener: ok, now we are ready to go. thank you, mr. chairman. i called for this hearing with mind co-sponsor, supervisor carmen chu, though her

assistant, katy tang, is here. talking about the state of middle-income housing in san francisco, what we are doing to encourage housing that is affordable to our middle class, and what we should be doing in the future. there are some issues that come before us than have an easier or relatively easy and straightforward step. this is not one of them. this is without a doubt one of the hardest issues that we grapple with as a city, how to insure that we're able to have a thriving and growing middle class that can live here. having in middle-class society, this is one of the things that has made united states says

stable for many years. now, preserving the middle class. of course, to have a middle class in any city, you have to have housing that folks in the middle class are able to access, and once you have middle-class people living and being able to be housed in the city, the jobs will follow. when you do not have housing for your middle class, and your middle class is not living here and not able to live here, it is tough to create jobs, particularly middle-income jobs, because businesses may be hesitant to do business in an area where the work force is not able to be housed, so there is a strong link between housing and jobs. the middle class in san francisco is on the small side. about 28% of the population of our households in san francisco

burn between 80% and 150% of area median income, and that number is more than 10% lower than it was 20 years ago, so far middle class has shrunk in the last 20 years. we need to be pro-active in keeping our middle class and growing our middle class in san francisco. for too long, we just sort of sat back and hoped. we cannot do that. there are many factors that go into keeping middle-income people in the city, from schools to parks to playgrounds, to wall of the different amenities that people need to be able to thrive in the city. but one of the most important things that we can do is to provide that housing. i also want to be clear that middle-income housing and providing middle-income housing and providing low-income

housing are not mutually exclusive. too often, some folks picked the two against each other, that if you're actually creating housing for your middle class, somehow you must not be treating housing for lower income people. i support, and i know just about everyone supports -- maybe not just about everyone, but many people support, myself included, our continuing commitment to providing housing for low-income people. but both are important, and we need to focus on the middle- class, as well. mayor lee has a working group to look at a proposal and how we stabilize affordable housing, and i have been very clear that middle-income housing needs to be a part of that solution. of course, we know about

subsidies, but it is not just limited to financial subsidies from the government. it also has to do with the supply of housing. we have a constricted supply of housing in san francisco for a long time. we do not tended to meet our regional targets in terms of creating new housing, and that artificially increases prices and makes it more expensive. we do not always encourage developers to design house and in such a way as to create more moderately priced housing, and so sometimes housing is designed so that it can only be priced at luxury housing. the development phase in san francisco, and we impose a lot of very worthy fees for a lot of different things, from affordable housing to transit to infrastructure. housing fees, development fees, go right into the cost, which

goes right into the price of the unit, and at some point, you end up with a situation where the only thing that is penciled out is high and luxury housing, so you have those developers paying to create low-income housing, and you are not creating any market middle-income housing. i also wanted to stress that this is not just about home ownership. it is also about rentals. we do not produce a lot of new rentals, and rents in the city and very frequently are off of the charge -- charts, and it makes it very hard for people to stay here, so is a tough issue, and i know we are going to have some good presentations today. after i asked for comments from supervisor chu's office and my

colleagues, i would like to proceed by having comments from the mayor's office on housing and then to have several presentations, first from our city economist, ted, and then from office on the work force development, mr. yarney, and then the budget analyst. so, mr. olson, would you like to start with some introductory remarks? is the planning department going to be -- >> he was year earlier. supervisor wiener: a kick, when he comes, we will give him the opportunity. supervisor mar: update, before we go, supervisor wiener, maybe

we can ask if supervisor cohen has any comments. i appreciate the work that has gone into this. i had an interest in a statement about not putting the low-income housing against the immediate income housing. something shown to me shows that the highest rent burden still falls on the lower incomes, who have to pay a huge percentage of their income on rent, as much as 7%, and for me, housing for the lowest income residents also includes much lower living conditions and habitability, as well, so in some ways, the lack of heat or rodents and roaches to lots of other issues are really key, and sometimes when we look at middle-income

housing, it depends on how we define it, so i am looking forward to see the data today as we try to balance the needs of the lowest income residents against the middle-income residents. as we try to build housing for teachers and other middle-income aspects of the population, and i hope it does not come with pitting the lower income people against them. >> -- supervisor wiener: as i said at the beginning, this is not about pitting one against the other. i never said that. there are very few people who believe that. it is about making sure that we are talking about those and prioritizing the as and increasing both because they are both extremely important. ms. tang, on behalf of supervisor chu?

>> katy tang, on behalf of supervisor chu, who regrets not being able to be here today, and to export to attending hearings on this topic. since she could not attend today, i just wanted to share some of forethought. for some time, the city has directed its resources and a very limited way, between 80% and 150%, and the city has done little to encouraging the is. today, she is interested in hearing about the state of the housing supply in the city and to begin a conversation to promote housing for moderate income levels. her hope is that we go beyond offering downpayment assistance programs. we would like to hear from the mayor's office on housing to encourage the moderate income

range in the city and also some of what the best practices are in some of the other jurisdictions, so those are just some of the supervisors' slots, and, again, she looks forward to continued participation in this as it goes forward. supervisor wiener: . -- thank you. any other comments? mr. olson, why did you not make a brief introduction, and then we will go to the presentation? >> good afternoon. i am the director of the mayor's office on housing, and we thank you for the opportunity to present the materials that you will see this afternoon. based upon the hearing requested that was found, the committee started to look at the inclusionary review process and increasing