fails to address the fair housing implications of redefining middle income populations. i think the next analysis from the standpoint of in order to comply with the city's obligations under the consolidated plan and fair housing law is you have to look at the percentage allocation of moderate and medium income. the data is hard to read on the chart. the white population which is over 84,000 and for african- americans, it is 30,000. asians is 61, hispanics 56. if you are going to move moderate income or median

income up that way, you will leave a lot of folks out. that analysis needs to be done when we're looking at redefining what we mean by median income in san francisco. supervisor mar: that runs counter to the fair housing or potential civil rights policies? >> the failure to analyze that would violate the fair housing act. the city is under an obligation to affirm the housing act. the analysis that looks at adjusting these programs, the consolidated planning requirements requires that analysis before you change affordable housing programs. smart analysis. lgbt is included so i would love to talk to about that as well. i am brand -- brian basinger.

i am a low income person with aids who happens to scrape into a modern and come unit by partnering with a city employe. i am not against moderate income and mixed in come housing. if it is done right it could be better. i am conscious of that we're in the last couple of weeks i had one of my members with a limp, down the sidewalks in a doorstep of a neighborhood business. i also had the transgendered woman friend of mine raped in her hotel which is what low- income housing is. i also had a member of mine who is also a volunteer brutally murdered in his hotel as well. this stuff is real to me. it is not a spreadsheet and it is not academic. when we look at this disparity of who we are serving and why, for those of us on the ground, it is real and it is brutal.

it gets us a little bit emotional. rent control is the largest and most successful program for low- income and moderate-income households. 90% of lgbt people are renters who need to be protected by rent control. also, when we are targeting subsidies at this range in really is a surrogate for an employer subsidy. currently, employers are picking up the housing costs of the people they employ. when wind -- invest resources we're leaving employers of that -- we are relieving employers of that. do not give it away. make the people pay. there are tax rental income, tax commercial rents, all kinds of stuff. supervisor wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening.

i am johnny oliver. i am a housing counselor working with people interested in homeownership. last year, we saw 309 people come through interested in homeownership. in 2011 only 35 were able to buy. all of them were between 80% and 120%. the story that we hear from people using the program is there or not any houses they can -- they're not being outbid on by high cash down investors or higher income families who can afford to put down a higher payment. by raising the ami it will create more competition for our limited housing stock as it is. that is the pre-purchase side.

i work with a much larger portion of our clients, our foreclosure clients. their loan modifications are denied time and time again. servicers, investors are not willing to cooperate. many of them are falling prey to modification scams happening in san francisco. the average client comes in spending anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 to have their -- loan modified just to be denied. i cannot see as a community we can continue or allow expansion of a current inclusion very housing program and not do anything to preserve home ownership for our struggling low- to moderate income families. supervisor wiener: thank you. if there are other speakers, please line up. we are at the end of public comment. >> as someone who has been

with the planning department for over 30 years, that they do not track what they are approving. some of us have been asking to track that, oh, four or five years and it keeps showing up in the housing elements as goals and always going to be implemented sooner or later. so if the board of supervisors wants the planning department to pay attention to this introduced legislation, tell them they have to do it. put it in their budget, if nefment because what i've seen over the past couple of years is as we've added great swaths of land for housing, areas in the mission, what comes in is extraordinarily high-end housing. in particular, ring con hill. and we -- rein conn hill. and we do not have low-income housing integrated with it. people buy out or just don't do it. we had massive amounts of quote/unquote live works which didn't have one units of

affordability for five years in the late 1990's. so we keep building in our problem by blowing out our extraordinarily limited housing area. the most limited thing we've got in san francisco is land, and if we keep giving more and more land to very high-end housing, with the exception of redevelopment area, which did a better job than anyone else for getting low-income housing in its areas and redevelopment is no more, the planning department is it. they have got to start saying that we are going to have a serious goal and seriously approve 61% of the new housing in these housing goals much instead of having a lot of $2 million condos, because that was what the developer wants and what the planning department will approve. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> edward mason.

i'm new to this and the one thing that i felt was missing in a lot of the presentation was the fact that it appears that san francisco is becoming a bedroom community, and i see that if i drive from san jose along 280 at 5:00 or 6:00 in the evening. you see an awful lot of residential parking permits. and then you have the commuter buses that traverse our city. so i just can't help but think that as the previous speaker said, we're geographically restricted. so whether you stack and pack or, you know, something's got to give somewhere. and it seems that we're going out. this is an article from "the mountain view" newspaper at the end of december and the essence of it is that there was a piece of property that was 25 years ago zoned commercial, so they put in printing shops, machine shops and everything else.

but part of that zoning then was 25 years later, which is now. it was supposed to be converted to housing. so now the big controversy in mountain view is, well, are we going to displace all these workers, or are we going to build housing? so that's what's going on there. and we need to look at it from a regional point of view. from all the stories that i've heard here, i think we really have a problem. so if we go forthwith what we did with proposition m that restricted the amount of commercial space, maybe we should extend that to restricting the amount of housing in order to fulfill our other obligations. so those are my comments and i see all these commuter buses going, and it's going up. even in this paper, google has bought 15 pieces of property in mountain view for another $225 million that they're expanding. so we can expect to be more of a bedroom community.

thank you very much. >> thank you very much. is there any additional public comment? ok. seeing none, mr. chairman, may we close comments? >> thank you. supervisor wiener, did you have any concluding remarks? >> i just wanted to, first of all, thank you to the departments. i don't know if you had any final words. ok. thank you to the departments for the really great presentations, appreciate it. obviously, as i said at the beginning, this is housing our middle classes, one of the hardest things we can do. we know lower income, we know what a lot of the solution is. we knead more money. we need funding. the federal government has fallen down on us, the state government has fallen down owes and i know we're trying to be resourceful in coming up with funding to house the very poorest, and that's critical public investment that i

support. i know a lot of us support. it becomes harder for our middle class, because, as i think mr. yarne or eagan said before, trying to use hub money to house our middle class, it becomes one of the unending kinds of things, so we have to pursue other strategies and has to do with housing supply, has to do with design, has to do with a lot of different things. i know as a city we need to really start grappling with that in an even greater way than we have been, so that we make sure that we're building housing for everyone. so colleagues, are there any additional comments? >> i just wanted to thank the staff for mr. chiu, mr. lee, mr. rem for being here and the budget analysts' office as well. i appreciate supervisor

wiener's acknowledgements of the need to not pit different economic groups against each other but to look for the interests of all. i think the information that was given to us sheds light on the tremendous needs at the lower level, but also huge needs for the middle and moderate-income folks as well. i'm hoping that some of the suggestions made by people from the various organizations to the developers and others can be taken into consideration as we try to hopefully get through this terrible economic crisis and hopefully start to build more of the goals that the regional body set for all of our housing, transportation and jobs needs. so thank you very much to supervisor wiener. >> thank you. i would then move to continue this to the call of the chair. >> without objections, colleagues. and i'd like to thank supervisor olague with her expertise on the planning commission for being with us. ms. miller, can you please call item number four, which i hope to continue. >> item number four, hearing on the impact of fees deferred under the program on affordable housing. >> colleagues, i urge us to

continue this item to the call of the chair to a later date. >> we have top to open it up to public comments. any member of the public wish to speak on item number four? seeing none, public comments is closed. colleagues, can we continue this to the call of the chire without objection? thank you. miss miller, could you -- is there any other business for us? >> no. >> then meeting adjourned, thank you, everyone. >> thanks. . >> meeting adjourned.]

good morning, everyone. thank you for joining us at the under construction site. thank you to the developers and call their supporters and certainly the people that i had met last year, including dennis rogers. we're all here on that rainy day last year when we kick started this project with the developers and housing advocates.

your story here also with supervisor and board president david chiu with supervisor kim and our newest supervisor, christina olague. thank you for all being here. [applause] first, let me begin by saying that during the campaign for mayor and certainly post- campaign, there has been a very strong effort on our part to make sure that job creation and economic development, as i said in my speech and inauguration -- that that becomes a priority for me and my administration. i have a lot of support that the board for this as well. part of that not only is when we talk about jobs and talk about the training and getting people involved that the early level of their education to get into the work force and making sure that they see san francisco as full of hope for them, but also, we

have got to take care of some of the other important elements of having a good, strong work force, and that is housing. not just for low-income, although here, that is what this is focused on. that is why we have so many advocates here today, but they will agree that work force and middle-class housing is just as important in this town. as we see a lot of expensive housing going up -- and that is good, too, but middle-class housing, housing for folks that are working and taking care of families is as important. that is why today, i wanted to use this site and use the opportunity to bring all of our housing advocates together with developers, with financial people, with people representing real estate association, property owners, and so forth, to come together and talk about the need to fill the void, as we have been talking about, where redevelopment is thought to be

eliminated on february 1, and where there are constant challenges. in my opinion, have to use the word of abandonment. but the end of state-funded programs. the curtailment at the federal level of programs that we could use to create an ongoing source for funding housing in the creation of housing. i know that our housing authority commissioners who are here -- director henry alvarez is here as well -- they will immediately agree. we are not going to take this lying down. we will not become victims, as i said earlier. even if they eliminate redevelopment, we are coming back. we are bringing people together and coming back with private enterprises, developers, people who have worked together with us. they know that delivery of promises has never been about a reliance on government programs, that we would fail ourselves and fail our community if we are so inclined to allow ourselves to lie down. that is why i have helped to

assemble this group of people behind me. also people in front of me that are represented in the private sector. people who have been very successful in producing housing. we need everybody to work together. today, i am announcing that in light of the idea that we had about forming the housing trust fund, that we begin forming a housing trust fund working group. a working group of people reflective of all the talent in our city, from advocates to developers to producers to people who maintain housing stock in the city well. that is the private housing developers, the real estate association, to the business mines and the city, and that i would like a trust fund working group to help me help our whole city come up with the best ideas possible and afford ourselves

with an opportunity to work with our borders supervisors, leadership of the board to amass the best ideas we can and bring it if need be to the ballot in november. i want this working group to welcome all the best ideas and then to struggle, if you will, with those ideas to make sure that we come out with the most agreeable schedule of ideas that we can present to the voters and residents that we are not going to abandon our commitment to this city to build housing for everybody. we are not going to allow ourselves to lie down and say that just because the state and defense do not find this to be their highest priority, in san francisco, we do. as we build training programs for our employees, as we build the technology and the grain industry to complement our tourism industry for good jobs,

that we also are talking about the housing that we need to support our local industry and our local workers. i think that we need a press, a thrust at this housing trust to bring everybody together and say that we could challenge ourselves to come up with the best ideas and to forge alliances that maybe have been in the past only at the affordable housing level for only at the luxury housing level or the market rate housing level, that we can forge an alliance together to build middle-class housing that the city desperately needs. so i am announcing today this forging. i am asking the director of our mayor's office of housing to take the leadership up on this and ask everybody to come to gather on an agenda. some of the people that we have asked today to come together

here, both in front and behind me, include the housing advocates, the council on community housing organizations, enterprise community partners, the non- profit housing association, mercy, bridge, chinatown community development, tabernacle, who is part of this effort here. the community housing partnerships. tenderloin housing. i know randy is here today. mission housing. south of market. community action. enterprise community partners. and then, of course, the developer family. san francisco planning and urban research, the housing action coalition. lennar is here today. thank you for being here. jackson. pacific. hei capital. bank of america. tenants union. coming together to join all of us to make this effort genuinely open for dialogue and for

hopefully reaching an agreement again so that we can house our middle-class families and make sure that we represent everybody can have housing for everyone in the city. with that, i would like to ask members of our board of supervisors to join with me on this. president chiu. [applause] supervisor chiu: thank you, mayor lee. i am really happy that we have represented to a really a wonderful spectrum of folks that care about a topic of folks that i think we all have been talking about for quite some time. mayor lee referred to the proposals he put out last year on the campaign trail. i can tell you that every candidate last year was talking about the importance of affordable housing. it is time to move beyond talk, though, to figure out what the solutions are, but something on the ballot, and get it done. i want to thank all my colleagues who are here. i know supervisor wiener has been leading in making sure we

remember the importance of workforce housing. our newest colleagues supervisor olague has been making sure to work with tenants. we all have a real commitment to making sure that we're bringing together all the diverse voices, and i know that every constituency who is here wants to make sure that we see housing built at different segments and different parts of the housing need that we have. we have to figure out how we get it all done. i know that the mayor is committed to this and i am committed to making sure we're figuring out how everyone can be at the table, how we can all craft solutions that will represent a good stepping board in building was san francisco is going to look like in the 21st century. thank you for being here. we look forward to getting this work done. [applause] supervisor olague: hello. most of you know me because we have worked together on all

sides of the housing issue. i wrote a very brief note that i want to put out there to confirm my commitment to this dialogue and to this working group. i want to say that i am very excited to be coming to the board as these conversations begin. i look forward to working in collaboration with tenant activists and developers and others who have worked with in the past over the past several years to find ways to address the overwhelming need the city has for low and middle-income housing. the need is great and immediate, but we cannot begin to find solutions without dialogue. please feel free to stop by my office if you want to have individual conversations so we can go and have a little bit more in-depth talk about this because sometimes when you get into the working group, it is, you know, that format is a

little bit constrained. i would like to have conversations with those of you here who are open to that. again, i am excited to be part of this. [applause] >> thank you again to all of the variety of members and advocates and developers that are here today. many of you know that affordable housing has long been one of my top priorities. i knew this year that housing would be a big issue. it was not just low-income families and individuals coming to our offices. it was writing e-mails about how hard it was to continue to live here in san francisco when middle income and even middle upper income tenants and residents in the south of market in the mission were e-mail in our office and telling us how tremendously hard it was for them to remain in the city. i knew this was an issue we

would have to begin to tackle. last year ended on a down note with the abolishment of redevelopment where we lost our only permanent stream for affordable housing in the state of california. it is great to be part of a city that is taking a proactive step only a week later to state that we are all going to work together to build housing for everyone in san francisco. i look forward to this work as well. working my colleagues, i know the ones who are standing behind me have also said housing is a priority for them. we need to make sure we continue to keep the city diverse and livable for everyone. thank you. [applause] >> reverence --rev. fong and reverend mckay were here when we started this. we will need your prayers as we continue forward. rev. fong, i know you have been

such a committed person. we ask you to bless us here and encourage us to do well on these efforts. of course, supervisor scott wiener. thank you for being here. supervisor wiener: thank you. i am really excited about what we are doing. what i want to really stress is the critical importance of focusing on moderate and middle- income housing and making sure it does not get lost in the shuffle. we do a lot in this city on affordable housing, and we talk about workforce housing, moderate income housing, middle- income housing a lot. to be perfectly honest, we do not always put our money where our mouth is, and of course, we need to do more and more on low- income housing, but we have, i

think, in the past, sort of but moderate middle-income housing to the side and not really move forward in a substantive way on that. it going through this process, i intend to hold our city accountable to making sure we are actually taking care of our middle income residents and families in this city because we are in danger of falling out our middle-class in this city, and indeed to prevent that from happening. i intend to work closely with the mayor, my colleagues, and the mayor's office of housing to make sure that we are having a hell looked -- housing policy that is inclusive of everyone and that we continue have a thriving middle class in san francisco. thank you. [applause] mayor lee: thank you, supervisor. i know there would be other supervisors that would show up, but for the conflict of interest. i think with this large number of supervisors, there will be others that will