average person and say, "describe the other rhythm," -- algorythm," people think it is weighted. they cannot explain the system. >> good afternoon again. eric burke, san francisco green party and the local group our city. thank you for studying this issue. i do find it a little unfortunate that advocates improve the voting systems like ninth choice and others being presented by members of the public would be at odds with each other on this stuff. i think once we gets done -- once we get done studying it, as we evolve through the way we study voting systems, we can get better.

ranked joyce has been in place in many places, including other countries. it has been shown to be effective. i personally follow every election very carefully, and have never seen anything alarming about ranked choice which made me think the person who was best for that community and who they desired to vote for was not being put in office. it looks to me like it is a system that works but could be improved. i think that is where we need to head with this. to some extent, like what is being proposed by some of the other advocates, if we had a rented choice system in which folks could rank all of their candidates in the election with little bauble dots -- you have seen the chart from steven hill. by the way, if you are not talking to steven hill yet, please do. he is the granddaddy of ranked joyce in san francisco. this does not have to be

complicated. if somebody came up to me and asked what an algorithm was for the voting system, i would not have a good answer either. i understand what an algorithm is. i think we can all work together on this. eventually, 20 years down the line, we can optimize our voting system to be incredible. right now, we have a pretty decent ranked joyce -- ranked choice option. let us improve the system. as we project what is likely to happen in the future, let us look at what will allow us to place more than one choices on the ballot. that will make a major improvement in our ability to

make ranked choice much easier for voters to use, because it would give them a chance to write everything i like, and not just two or three candidates. let us make sure we do not drop the ball in getting rid of the campaign financing problems. let us make sure we solve that. that directly messes with french choice as well. -- with ranked choice as well. chairperson campos: public comment is closed. any other questions for mr. fried? if not, thank you for your work. we look forward to continuing to hear from you and get updates. hopefully, you can get any relevant information from some of the folks who spoke. thank you very much. if we can have this matter continued to the call of the chair -- a motion by commissioner avalos, seconded by

commissioner mar. call item no. 5, please. >> item number 5, goals and objectives for 2012. chairperson campos: ms. miller? >> nancy miller, your interim executive officer. there is a short memo before you to remind you that lafco has the power to conduct special studies. while we tend to get focused on cca and some of the other issues, the point of this is just to remind you that you have the power. if there are issues or other services that you want to direct us to explore, that is really our purpose. this item was put on to the direction of the chair, to remind you this is a power to conduct studies of municipal services solely by lafco. chairperson campos: to add to

that, besides community choice aggregation, in the last year or so, we have looked at the issue of garbage disposal and transportation. we also now are looking at the issue of voting. if there are any other issues that you think this commission could look that, we have the opportunity to do that. that is not something we have to do our decide today. but we wanted to make sure we reminded you of that opportunity. supervisor avalos: thank you. i appreciate the reminder about what lafco can do, in terms of research. i think i might want to look at, not just for today -- i will just broach the suspect -- broach the subject. i am looking at municipal banking in san francisco, and how we might be able to use the power of research and study with lafco to look into what ways we can enact and support san

francisco. the treasurer has talked about doing these grants to local credit unions and local community development financial institutions, about $250,000 to support projects they work on. i think that would be something worth looking at. we can go offline and talk about how to engage that. we have in terms that are also interested in working on that. perhaps we can study the scope of work we can do through lafco. chairperson campos: thank you, commissioner avalos. supervisor mar: i wanted to say i strongly support research in that area as well, looking at municipal banks in other jurisdictions, statewide and local jurisdictions, and how

they have managed to control municipal banking institutions as well. chairperson campos: i want to echo that as well. i think it is a great idea. beginning a preliminary discussion of that topic, also keep in mind that not only do we have the benefit of having lafco staff look into that issue, but, to the extent that there may be a need to have an outside expert that has specific expertise in the area, we also have the ability to retain that, if that is inappropriate step to take. we have that ability. and i trust that we will hear from commissioner avakis ab -- avalos and mr. fried, if we get to that point. unless there is a question from staff, why don't we open it up to public comment?

>> good afternoon one more time, commissioners. san francisco green party and our city. definitely want to step up and time in in strong support of studying what it would take to create a municipal bank a and/or potentially regional bank. lafco is all about regional municipality relationships. it can be a really powerful opportunity for the bay area, in consultation with occupy, to get some great stuff to happen with municipal banking. it is a great idea to put some city funds into credit unions instead of big wall street banks, and community banks. however, those credit unions and banks are still somewhat at the mercy, because of their size and where they invest, to investing in a market that is still doing the stuff that we would want to try to get our banking away from.

yes, credit unions and local banks are great. but a true government-owned municipal bank, to me and to the green party, is definitely crucial. we need to make that happen. i want to time in one more time, since we have another commissioner who has not been here recently. we have got to get -- hopefully, right around the time that clean power sf gets approved in the sfpuc, which will probably be sometime in the fall, we really need to get on city-wide broadband municipal fiber-optic. that also dovetails with the smart grid we are going to need for community choice aggregation for clean power sf. i want to say that one more time to make sure that is in the queue for the end of the year. chairperson campos: thank you. is there any other member of the public would like to speak on this item?

seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, if we can continue this item to the call of the chair, we will bring this item back as the need may arise. we have a motion by commissioner avalos, seconded by commissioner pimintel. >> item 6, executive officer's report. >> form 700's are done -- are due, and we will be in contact to make sure those are on file. chairperson campos: any member of the public who would like to comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> item 7, public comment. chairperson campos: this is an opportunity for any member of the public to speak on any item within the jurisdiction of the local agency formation commission that is not otherwise on the agenda.

seeing none, a public comment is closed. >> item 8, future agenda items. chairperson campos: colleagues, do we have any other future agenda items? i know we have covered some new subject areas for us to focus. is there a member of the public would like to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. call the last item. >> item number 9, adjournment. chairperson campos: meeting adjourned. thank you very much.

we are proposing three audits for calendar year 2012. this is part of our proposed work plan. we have selected these audits based on what we have experienced in terms of our review of city departments, budget review, a legislative item review, and discussions with various members of the board of supervisors. we are recommending three audits. they would comprise 3600 hours of audits time in 2012. our proposed burk plan includes -- are proposed work plan includes 5500 hours of special

projects in 2012. this is what was in our work plan. we are currently completing an audit on the evaluation of museum governance. hopefully, it will be completed shortly. do you would be three projects they would be ready to begin at -- these would be three products we would begin -- we would be ready to begin immediately. this would be an evaluation of how these two departments determined the need for services, whether the services are being contracted out, how they measure the level of service. their policies and procedures are for contracting and how they identify performance measures. we selected these two based on experiences we have had in other reports. we have found some concerns on

prior reports in this area. the second when we are recommending, and this would be something we would recommend doing later in the year, would be to look at the impact of the transfer of the redevelopment agency's assets to the city. when we wrote our initial reports prior to february 1, we said there were many outstanding questions we needed to address. they need to be looked at more closely. at that time, there were some significant issues in terms of where the staff would be assigned. we were told that a lot of this would be presented in the budget. we believe that under the state law, the comptroller -- controller has certain

obligations that they have. we are looking less at that that we are on the impact of city departments. our proposal -- so we know what we're working with in terms of 2012-2013. the third one is to look at public safety realignment. our proposal would be to start this much later in the year. this comes out of are looking at the budget in the current fiscal year where there were significant requests from resources from the sheriff's department and the adult probation department. we did make some recommendations. they were not necessarily accepted by the committee. we still have concerns about staffing levels and help the

sheriff's department and the adult probation department are making this transition to new case loads. >> thank you. the ratio of plan hours versus allocated hours, that remains consistent from past practices? >> pretty much. but we added up all of our hours in 2011, and we found that we were on target with our work plan. we found we were able to be responsive and flexible within the work plan. >> thank you. >> these are the three right subjects. the one question i have is about the order. i think you have answered it in your comments about why

redevelopment would come second. i thought before i heard your comments that it might make sense to make redevelopment first. the mayor and many of us have discussed the idea that there could be some sort of measure on the ballot to help address some of the funding shortfall. if we have the results of your proposal, it would help us frame how much we should shoot for. but i think you are making the point that you are not born to have much to analyze yet. >> that is our concern, yes. >> assuming this ms. forward as you have proposed, -- past -- assuming this moves forward as you have proposed, when can we expect to see the first audit completed? >> we would begin immediately. it depends on other resources. we would aim for shortly after budget. because of the nature, we might

even consider a two-faced report. -- phased report. >> one of the issues that has been low on the priority scale, low on the issue at scale, but it is concerning to me, all the redevelopment employees are state employees. they will become members -- will you be looking at all of those various employment issues as well and what it means as a cost to the city? >> yes, we will be. the state has some very clearly defined responsibilities. anything we consider risky, we called back out in our report in february. we would definitely proceed on that. >> great. >> is there something you wanted

to add? >> good afternoon. i am trying to sort out what would be the most helpful information to give you. we usually get more of an opportunity discuss this with the budget analyst office ahead of time so this list is new to us. it is your prerogative to audit whatever you like and we will be helpful and provide the resources that we have. in each of these three areas, there is a significant body of work that is already going on. one area or the other, health and human services, nonprofit contract, for example, i am sure you are aware there have been several task forces. there are live recommendations going forward in different formats from several of them. improvement in the contracting process. a very strong joint monitoring effort that the city makes.

we can help with design to make sure that the time the budget analyst spans is most productive. i feel like in that area we have a lot of strong interest appropriate control activities already going on. -- risk of appropriate control activities already going on. a lot of the transition process these will not be complete until quite a bit after the budget is done. the financial statement audit, which is required, will come after that. in each of the major transition issues, there is a working group that is trying to do things like -- i am not the most qualified person to speak on it. i am not part of the working groups. but we do have staff in these projects. finally, with realignment, you approved a transition plan.

there is a county executive body. my office has a commitment of resources to data tracking. we have a project that is looking at every place or a piece of data about any of the populations are being tracked and treated and managed. i just want to make you aware of all those things. if you choose to go forward, we will try to make sure we help. i wanted to let you know that. >> thank you. questions, colleagues? we will open up to public comment. in the members of the public who wish to speak on the matter? they will have two minutes each. >> i agree with the first two recommendations i do not think the sheriff's department safety

issues is a high priority at this time. i would prefer to see an audit of the city attorney's office or even the ethics commission. secondly, in your budget plan, you are allowing each individual supervisor to request of to 150 hours for an audit. i do not think that is good public policy. i think it can lead to abuse. they can be used as political weapons. supervisor wiener was held in violation of the sunshine ordinance last month, i believe. within a week, he ordered an audit of the cost of complying with the sunshine ordinance. it is more than coincidence that supervisor wiener asked for a survey of complying with the

sunshine or dance. -- ordinance. if each supervisor requested 150 hours, that is one-third of the amount of hours you are budgeting for the entire year. the 150 should be eliminated. the audit should be pursuant to

>> the first is political retaliation. the second is a biased research and the third is a waste of money. supervisors, please reconsider that survey. >> thank you. next speaker. >> as my fellow public people mentioned in the fall of 2011, shortly thereafter, he ordered a survey of the sunshine ordinance be prepared by the budget analysts office. he did several information requests from members of the public to find out that supervisor wiener was behind this survey of the cost of the

sunshine ordinance. e-mails from the budget analysts office a short -- a short -- assured the are only conducting an analysis for the board of supervisors. why would he be trying to keep the request secret? why would the office been concealing his role in this? what did they have to hide from the public? last year, this committee approved a 2011 work plan that included research reports as requested by individuals and the board of supervisors. these reports may be kept confidential at the discretion of the requesting board member. the same statement is in your 2012 plan. this type of secrecy is against open government.

please do not approve a work plan that allows for secret reports. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i would like to thank the board of supervisors for approving an audit for the department of public health. it is a start. if you are serious about saving money to help the poor in san francisco, and you'll find plenty of waste and inefficiency at the department of health. the budget which analyst the did the budget analyst did do a report on the department of public health and 20 -- in 2003. my own department was involved in that report. i would like to recommend that

the 2003 report be read before the audit plan is done so you will have an idea of what to look for in order to save money. secondly, i was very impressed by the three previous speakers. for the record, this committee is supposed to be a watchdog, not a lap dog. hopefully, we continue that tradition with the current makeup. for the record, dereliction of duty, abuse of power under the color of authority. let's put it this way, everybody knows that san francisco is a

mountain to climb if you are trying to fix certain things. the only way you'll get it fixed is to put people on notice, so they cannot say they were not aware of it. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> i have no specific objection to the three priorities for the work plan. i do think it is good for the unit not to duplicate efforts. i had to other ideas that either could be audits or handled in another fashion. one is the law library. there has been recent activity to move them out of the memorial while the building is worked down. more recently, their downtown branch is slated to close in two weeks. they have some funding issues because of the