be there. they do not understand any of the documents that they should have, such as the runaround report, our shelter shops, the shelter training manual, the ordinances predating the shelters. this is not a qualified body to do this. this guy gets stabbed to death and you're talking about bus tokens. there is just so much wrong here. i think this body could be better. it is very real, several years ago, there is no political will to make these shelters better. supervisor kim: thank you. i do want to a knowledge that the same sheet you give us is

the same sheet we have in front of us. they did a knowledge there were not able to visit four of the sites because it is a body of volunteers. they try to visit all the shelters. that was not a question. >> so the share -- so the chair of the monitoring committee gets immunity so she does not have to monitor her own shelter? supervisor kim: we will try to answer that question. we have six vacancies on the monitoring committee. that could help tremendously with the sites we do not get to visit. do you know who appoints those seats? on our website, it says that the board seats are all full. >> yes. we just trained two people.

we know we got two people this quarter and our training them right now. there is an open seat and we are looking for bilingual because there is only myself and one other person. right now, this is the first quarter that we have only two seats available. last quarter, we did need six people. and they are all volunteers. some of them have kids and jobs. basically, we are only nine people and we have all of the shelters. we try to do the best we can. supervisor kim: so there are seven active members but that does not mean there are only seven? 13.

>> look at your second quarter report. there is only one vacancy. supervisor kim: this is a vacancy that should be appointed from the local homeless board. great. who serves as the chair for the shelter monitoring committee? what sheltered us to work for? >> i am a little confused about someone being on used for my shelter. when someone works at a shelter, they are not allowed to inspect their own shelter. supervisor kim: does the chair work at a shelter? >> she works for compass. she does inspect other shelters but not the shelter she is currently working on. somebody else comes.

supervisor kim: i just wanted clarification on that. thank you. thank you for taking care of that for us. i have called for a hearing on shelters as well. we will be hearing that either on march 22 -- i will reserve a lot of my questions or comments for that hearing. regarding the additional work we can do, both around staffing and what additional support we can get to our shelters, given that so many of the problems we talk about are the problems we are ready know exist. you have to come out of the dust -- something has got to come out of the discussion or else the report will come back to us with the same issues over and over again. it is frustrating for all of us here and our staff at dph and

hsa as well as our constituents who are homeless. i am hoping we can make some headway on that. it is a frustrating issue for all of us. i do want to a knowledge as some much work has been done. but we still have many more steps to take and i appreciate the committee members for volunteering their time. thank you for being here. is there any other discussions or questions on the rules committee? seeing none, is there a motion to continue this to the call of the chair? >> so moved. >> we can do that without proposition. thank you very much. i want to invite all the members who are here today to come on our next hearing on the 26 or 29th. thank you. can you please call item no. 7?

>> item #7, ordinance amending the administrative code to clarify the reporting responsibilities related to decentralize and publicly accessible online database of information concerning appointments to city and county of san francisco advisory bodies. supervisor kim: thank you. the clerk of the board of supervisors is here to present on this issue. >> as you are aware, the original ordinance was passed october of 2011 and establish an online database for all appointments. it defined maintenance responsibilities to ensure its accuracy. we have realized an unintentional consequence whereby the appointing authority would need to provide quarterly reports. the board of supervisors reports to over 80 committees with multiple seats on each.

for these 80 and more bodies, we posed vacancies as needed and a report of all appointments available in the coming year. in addition, we provide quarterly and annual reports for other bodies. such as the sunshine ordinance task force, the revenue oversight committee. we understand from conversations with president chiu that the legislative intent was not to bring it to the board and we fully support his legislation today. to clarify the department's liaison should require reporting requirements for the database. the clerk of the board and staff would really appreciate your staff in recommending this legislation. supervisor kim: thank you korea i am happy to see this move

forward. my question is not -- do we have a list of task forces that have continued? but are not inactive. when supervisory bodies are inactive, the clerk begins to collect them and bring them back to us so we can officially end the use of those committees. sometimes, we have task forces that still continue on. is that the case? >> i'm going to ask your clerk to respond to that. she is the one that does the managing report. she provides a list to the clerk, the board, and myself regarding bodies that should be dissolved. >> it is the commission secretary responsibility to invite new legislation or work with the supervisor's office to

get legislation introduced. >> so all of the committee's that have hit their dates to request an extension before they continue? >> that is correct. supervisor kim: i am very interested in our non-chartered commission bodies. i know we have many. there is a tremendous amount of staff time that goes into staffing these committees and it would be great to get a better handle on the task force we have currently. thank you. are there any other questions? seeing none, we will open up for public comment. >> good afternoon. being one of the more obscure areas here, it is certainly of interest to me. i have a handout for you. i took a moment to look at the item and marked it up. i certainly support the change

to add the department liaison definition. that is certainly the person most knowledgeable with the operations of each body. to the extent that you're moving the responsibility for maintaining up-to-date information to the person rather than the appointing authority, that absolutely makes sense. but i think there are some other clarifying changes that would help. you can choose to make these now or in the future or think about them. i think this could use a little cleanup. a couple of points that i would call your attention -- in the definition on page 1, although it ultimately cost about advisory bodies, the definition includes all bodies, boards, commissions, task forces, or committees. i read this to include chartered commissions appointed by the

mayor, the board, and other appointing authorities. i am not sure that advisory body is really the best term to use in this context. if this really is supposed to be centralized database for all appointments made by various city actors, perhaps a different term would be more for writ. the other suggestions were mostly just typos and trying to clean it up so it reads better. i certainly support this. putting a database together was overdue. it is there and it is happening. more people besides myself, getting involved in the government, it is certainly good and makes sense. again, i am not sure if you want to deal with this now or passed legislation. or have one of the work with cheryl or someone else, i am happy to help as well. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor campos. supervisor campos: thank you.

i think it might be helpful to share those comments with the author and the city attorney's office. i want to make sure they see that. but i think these things make a lot of sense. >> i did attempt to do that. i have provided him a copy. supervisor kim: thank you. i do appreciate that. i would want the author to directly make some of these amendments. that could be done at the full board committee meeting. some of these clearly make some sense and i appreciate the time you took to make these edits. thank you. is there any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed. colleagues, any thoughts?

>> i make is i -- i make a motion to move for with a positive recommendation. supervisor kim: that is not without opposition. thank you for being the last member of the public at our committee meeting. is there anything else on the agenda? seeing none, the meeting is adjourned.

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