hip-hop, r&b, deejays, but it involves. as you get older, sometimes music tends to be noise year. but some of the steps being taken right now, the first is the surveillance cameras that are having an impact, where we are able to monitor activity. second of all, id leaders are much more dependable now. it is working. -- andid readers are a i -- id readers are much more dependable now. club owners are policing themselves. they know the value and the responsibility and do not want to 1% of the people causing problems dragging down the

entire industry. many of the people in this room are club owners, and although they are competitors, they know the value of communicating, coming together, making the industry better. i see a bright future. you see the numbers. the numbers mean something. we need to nurture and elevate this industry at the same time, providing the safeguards so that people get the rest that they are responsible for. supervisor wiener: thank you. i have two more cards. linda chapman, tom murphy. >> first of all, thank you again for bringing this study forward. thank you for having this hearing. music, night life, and entertainment for an important ecosystem. night life itself is one aspect

of an ecosystem, an industry of music and creative industries in san francisco. by studying this one element, we are touching the tip of the iceberg of an enormous amount of jobs and of revenue, and of money flowing into town, not to mention the cultural benefits received from my life, music, and culture. some of the things that you do not see are important to pay attention to, particularly the festival that san francisco has become known to. and then -- known for. we bring an enormous crowd to treasure island every year. virtually every festival that we have features a musical component. the music industry employs a great number of people that do not show up, a night life study

that contributes to the night life economy. whether they are involved with engineers, or music creators themselves, working day and night to create the entertainment online or elsewhere, i am incredibly excited with this study that has been undertaken in backing their is a lot of room to expand on this, to understand the depth of the creative industries in the city, understanding how they impact the jobs of those working within in how they expand other businesses, generating new ideas, excitement, bringing new workers into the city to fuel the spirit that makes this area great. another issue is that we are the future of the music industry here in san francisco. technology is leading the change that we are seeing in the way

that music is consumed and that people use it. including how they go out at night. if the city addresses it correctly, san francisco has a good chance at being the center of the music industry in this country, a worthy place for a city like san francisco. supervisor chiu: i was going to ask you to comment on the gavin report in the industry that used to be here that seems to have been lost to boston, portland, cortlandportlandia, and other pn the country. >> right now we have a city that has begun to open festivals. the more we do that, the easier it is to bring those events that draw people from all around the country. that is helpful, in one respect. yes, this city has had a long

history of being a magnet for music lovers, all the way back to the 1962. the summer of love was a huge industry. it could never happen again, i think, because the permitting issues. many of these festivals, including golden gate park or anything outdoors, general -- generally run into permitting problems. fees make these events nearly impossible to continue. having worked on hardly strictly bluegrass prior in my career, that festival was constantly battling the issues of restrictions with fee increases in the park and so on, where these are sources of funding -- obviously the parts need funding, but to go after the people who are generating a lot of revenue for the city, hitting them for small amounts of money compared to their economic impact, that is a short-sighted

approach, to try to raise revenue in one place by shutting down something that creates a gigantic ripple effect of so much leverage. we are trying to regulate them and it is important. supervisor wiener: thank you. mr. paulson, we have very high expectations given the nature of the meeting. [laughter] >> ♪ cheer up sleepy city oh what can it mean to a nighttime dreams believer and a city please keep it green and so cheer up sleepy city oh what can that mean it to an entertainment believer and a city and make it mean

and city land-use we have got some land use and we have got things to say land-use bring on the entertainment bring it here today city city you know that it is true we need entertainment whinnied in good from you i say city i say city i do not want to find that we do not have entertainment and are not even one dime i say city you know that it is true we need good entertainment and we needed from yeaou ♪ >> thanks. supervisor wiener: thank you. by the way, we have now gone through all the cards.

>> hello, i am is small business owner, and we were mentioned earlier. we were trying to put up a nightclub at 43 sixth street. we keep hearing that there has been pushed back from the city. we're fighting this constant battle to put a bar in that location. i wanted to also mentioned that this has been historically a bar in the same location for over 40 years. so i do not know why there is a push back all of the sudden now. as far as our business, we're definitely committed to putting the security there. surveillance cameras, a lot of lights. make the facade lignites so that it brings a lot of professionals that the mayor's twitter tax break would bring in that neighborhood. you want to make it vibrant and safe for responsible, committed people. so this report really encourages us, because it really shows

that nightlife is not something to be feared and to be afraid of, but to be encouraged. 're making sure that we are keeping it safe and keeping it clean. and one of the other things is also we want to promote bollywood music in san francisco. there's no venue that currently promotes these kind of minority groups. we want to promote that to our club. so we're hoping that the city really gives us more encouragement and support us in this business. thank you. supervisor wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> lynn that chapman from -- linda chapman from nob hill which is not mention that is a major center of entertainment

and i am a native, lived here in the 1960's. it was lovely. i lived for about 20 years in the theater district, and i loved it. it was a pleasure to here the music from the gold dust or biscuits and blues, but that is because there were not in a residential area, you see. and much of nob hill is a dense residential area. i am going to try to play something so that you will hear what it sounds like in the dense residential area. but anyway, pulled streak -- pulled street is the residential neighborhood district, and parts of it is now unlivable. there is a senior housing building there. unfortunately this is not playing for some reason. it did earlier. the resident manager of the building across the street, where residents have been there 20, 30, 40 years, and many are older and have heart conditions

and other conditions, they cannot sleep. from 10:30 p.m., sometimes until 3:30 a.m. that was like last weekend. from 11:30 p.m. to 2:30 a.m., it is like a wall of sound. i am sorry, i cannot fix it. now they want to turn this into a big rock venue in masonic. there is very poor public transportation up there at night. all of these young people drinking, because now there is actually a license, which there never was before, a 47-type license. so it is replicating of their but only so far intermittently what has happened down on polk street. thousands of people from out of town come, and they combine

hundreds. you cannot walk down the street. the noise is a wall of sound like a football game for hours on end. what are the costs to the city in policing? not that the police can do anything. they say they're so overwhelmed that i do not have the staff. the injured in the commission has been contacted over and over by the resident manager who reported this. [bell rings] and they have done nothing to enforce it. nobody is enforcing except the fire department sometimes. people are having to move. then the property owner has to give notice to the people who might move in. you know, it is damaging property values. restaurant customers cannot come to these areas anymore. retailers are damaged because these premises move in, not only did the drive up the rent, but they did not bring in customers during the day. and nobody wants to come to the area anymore. [bell rings] i will bring this another time. supervisor wiener: thank you very much.

next speaker. also john and steve. >> hello, i am tom murphy, a musician and entrepreneur and co-chair of the recording academy is advocacy committee. i have spent almost three years now working with the entertainment commission and the arts community and venues. and many people involved in our night life. and i want to thank you for commissioning this study and for the controller's office for giving us a wonderful starting point to have a healthy dialogue. many people have mentioned that this is a complex relationship between businesses and neighbors and a police and artists and technology that requires these different groups to begin to understand each other's position, to try to come to agreement on what is best for the city as a whole, recognizing each individual's goals and objectives and needs, but also recognizing the larger picture.

this study begins to touch on what i see as a much larger picture. but there are so many other businesses that are a little bit more difficult to measure that are directly related to music and nightlife that we have talked a lot about the growing technology sector and midmarket and trying to attract new business and new employees and new ideas. and many times a year there is a conference call sf music tech conference, and it brings thousands of music professionals and entrepreneurs to san francisco to discuss how to revolutionize and adapt to these changes in music and the industry and economics. so many of those companies are headquartered here in san francisco. so this study is a great starting point to recognize that the diverse ramifications that we as a city have taken for

granted and recognize on a cultural and subjective level, but now we can begin to talk in more concrete, objective numbers about employees, revenue, taxes, and economy. i want to thank you. and i look forward to working with everyone else continually on ways to revitalize this industry that we all are very dedicated to. supervisor wiener: thank you very much. mr. wood? >> hello, supervisors could i am john would. i have not been around the nightlife scene as long as mark has, but i have been around for a while, long enough to have been involved in trying to negotiate a lot of the squabbles that have happened between nightlife and special events and neighborhood groups and the police department. one thing that has not been said today, jocelyn did it say that

running in nightlife business can be difficult. part of that difficulty is that night life often becomes the scapegoat for social problems that the nightlife owners did not create but that they have to deal with. and so, when an incident happens like a fight or a shooting, even something that happens a block away from the club that the club owner has very little ability to impact, that will, because of sometimes the tragic nature of it, the club will get blamed on a map -- automatically, even though they really had very little ability to affect that are not. so what is great about this study is that it proves how important this sector is to the economy, and that gives a little bit more weight to the political leadership that is necessary to force intelligence solutions

into these complex social problems and not have the knee- jerk reactions that have occurred in the past that put all the blame on the club owners and then add all kind of additional costs into the running of the venues and nightclubs that take away from their ability to hire jobs. and many clubs go out of business and even some have left this city. it is because of this process of knee-jerk reaction that occurs to admittedly difficult situations sometimes. but with the proper political leadership that said that this is important and the word has spread out throughout the bureaucracy that we have to work together and create better solutions. that has not always happen, and that has led to the problems that mark talked about. fortunately with this new generation of supervisors, and thank you to scott for pushing this and seeing the importance of its, we can create those

solutions, working together with the entertainment commission, the police department, and not have the process that everyone has been stuck in that mark alluded to. thank you very much. supervisor wiener: thank you very much. >> thank you, supervisors. i am here to talk about the need for been used to revolve over time and change. i have been working for the last three years with the california masonic memorial temple, the owner of the masonic auditorium on nob hill. a 3200-seat venue now, completed in 1958. it has not undergone any substantial rehabilitation or changes since then. we did get permits for the city in 2010 to renovate the said her -- of the center, add seats, make it more like the fox and oakland, where the city of oakland put in tens of millions

of dollars to renovate that venue and modernize it and make it appropriate for these days. unfortunately is superior court judge put us back in the process again. i want you to keep in mind when, later this month, you hear the next a masonic appeal of issues that were raised today in this hearing, it is not a nightclub. it is a concert venue. we're talking about an 11:00 p.m. closing time, 11:30 p.m. closing time on weekends. but it is important that you recognize the importance of these larger venues as well that bring people to san francisco for concerts'. they have a multiplier effect. they're not nightclub's the large venues. in this case, masonic happens to be in a mixed use neighborhood, both residential and commercial neighborhood. there are some residents in the area who are dissatisfied with the existence of it at all and are trying to close down the avenue. and i wanted you to be aware of

these issues and the economic issues that were raised when you hear the appeal. a couple of statistics. we estimate when the venue is renovated and back open for business, about $2.5 million annually in tax payments to the city -- in peril. $75,000 in tax payments to the city. $5 million to $6 million in capital improvements to the menu itself. it is important to the economic generator. thank you for this hearing. supervisor chiu: is that the live nation project? >> they have been hired. >> how large is that, if the project is approved, compared to like another that it team -- >> that has about 8000 capacity. masonic is about 3300.

it is the middle range. right now, just the opera house and davis hall has that capacity. those are pretty much completely booked. so this is the only venue of that size in san francisco. supervisor wiener: so that appeal has been calendar for -- it says march 27? >> either the 2327. >> this is march 27. any more public comments? seeing none, public comment is closed. i just want to thank everyone. i agree with some of the comments made the this is really a starting point. there is more work to be done. but i think this is been a great first step. so thank you again to mr. egan and everyone involved. mr. chair i moved to continue this to the call of the chair. supervisor chiu: thank you, everyone, for testifying.

i want to make sure that we're going to be following up together on focusing on the music industry's impact as well, hopefully looking at some of the data from this report more specifically on the musicians, music industry, and other music venues. and the other issue is, wanted to appreciate jocelyn from the entertainment commissioners and folks for being here today, too, for also doing such a great job trying to mitigate the impacts of the industry in different neighborhoods. i think ms. chapman, who spoke earlier, i want to thank her for bringing the concerns of residents been doubly the entertainment division's debt and commissioners can help in the process of bringing their career awareness to entertain me, which is such an important part of san francisco's life culture, and can be appreciated, but residents can be expected as well -- can be respected as well. we're continuing this to the call of the chair, without

objection. is there any other business before us? >> no, there are no further matters. supervisor mar: thank you, everyone. meeting adjourned.