now if we find special sources of property and they are gone. two points are raised. 1 is a college student talked about how difficult is that your your have 60 or 78.

i will look forward to the financial analysis that will come from this. i came up with about $20 million. the most controversial was extending parking nights and weekends. if that is around $10 million, the only thing we have left is our serious service costuts. it was awful. i hated to do that. i would rather have qualities service people can depend on as

opposed to promising things way beyond our means. i think we need to keep up in mind. i want to say i have great faith in the project as it goes forward no longer range. gooit would be very exciting, ad if we could go to 9 miles per hour we would be saving $7 million a year. >> can i asked about the cash fare increase? >> not too excited about

that. >> can we circled back. it did not seem that was thought controversial. there was a gentle man who made a comment if we are going to have leaders were you can pay to park $8 an hour, about this not about revenue generation. i was speechless. of course it is about revenue generation. they are there to help the businesses make revenue. there are parking meters commo,f we were to turn our backs, that is not making wise use of our resources.

i think it was pretty universally accepted at the stakeholders meeting, and the thing that is going to be interesting about sunday is those parishioners are probably going to be able to park closer than they are right now. and i think it is going to be easier. i do not want to be shy about saying we use parking meters to generate revenue, because we do in your gut -- because we do. that is part of the reason we

are there. the parking policy has to sit with our goals overall, but i feel like it those who regard -- i feel like it does. i feel like there is going to peace enforcement we have not had before. people say they are going to church. they are going to the church of yoga and to get a two-thirds. if the leaders are working on sunday we are going to have turnover on the legal spot, and we can cut our on illegal spots. everytime i see that i think about how many trips we are facilitating.

that is another reason i am really interested. the other one, a citation increase to offset a court house sefee. is it up to $5 for a citation, and is our total impact 3 million? >> here is what happened to reagan -- here is what happened. my understanding is we have passed through $1 of six. -- $1 of it. we are assuming not to have thought, so if we were to increase the citations by $2 but

would be $2.4 million to close. there was a second court house the we were not aware of secure a good -- but we were not aware of. we have not assumed, so if we were to pass through the additional $3, that will leave us even if your ego -- even. i just want to clarify i do not think we currently have indexing for parking citations, and that is something we discussed a little bit this

morning. that is something i would recommend we do apart from whether we do the pass through. there was some discussion, that by not passing it through you sometimes obscure the impact of the state legislature for the individuals. there was even discussion about indicating this it -- indicating it. there is an argument to be made in the other direction, and there is a cap, so it could not go on forever. i>> i thought we had an across-

the-board index policy. >> we have not been applying anything on the parking side, because we did come to indexing. a discussion the you did not want to raise the citation. >> before we get to what we did last year, two years ago we work closely to pass and indexing policy. five does apply to parking citations, but last year we chose not to make what was a small increase.

i think the reality is it is going to be very minimal, but if we are applying indexing through fare increases, i think it is fair to apply to the parking citations, and one reason i supported the index policy is it allows for small increase thossd what creates a promise but is all we are going to do. i think this is a much more regularized way, so i do not mind indexing the citations for indexing the fares, so that is what the policies as we are supposed to do. good >> you said there is a ceiling?

>> i believe it is generally $100, so some of our citations are already of the cab region -- already at the cap, so we stop there. and >> do you have any comments at this point? >> i the guy got a good direction of -- i think i got a good direction of where people are out. gjust to remind that our current budget while we are locked in in terms of the labor agreement, the other half of the workforce

agreements are open, and we will be negotiating them. we have correctly assumed no concessions of any sort that the contribution they made before would be restored. it is possible there would be a gap to close for labor recessions. >> that does not mean we resign ourselves to the fact there will not be concessions. >> thank you all for a thoughtful discussion.

do we have anyone who wishes to speak? >> he asks about 10.2d, but i am not sure if he is still here, >> i am simply speaking on the item. you may be doing that at this time. >> which one are you talking about right here? >> the item having to do with the u-turn at -- in front of ucsf. hillway -- and it was described by barry in the hall. i understand that we get rides

on the other side of the street. it is difficult on the other side of the street. he would request you do not go forward with this. >> members of the board, are there any questions on the consent calendar. >> i am waiting for public comment. >> we are not there yet. >> that was item 10.2 s. public comment -- >> is there any further discussion? moving this forward, the consent calendar is approved. >> we do have some people have turned in speaker cards. brad dushemnushem, brad nuberg

>> mr. gruberg? >> okay. >> thank you. mark gruberg. i think you realize that there were a lot of cabdrivers who wanted to speak. and -- the way that the meeting went, they were unable to do this. i hope that i reflect the sentiments of many of them. listening to these budget discussions is kind of scary for someone in our position. it makes it very clear that this agency is a very hungry animal. we're finding different -- you are finding ways to extract

money from us. selling the dalliance and the direct medallion sales, single- operator permits, that have not yet been implemented and now we have this proposal to lease one- third of the fleet, to cap companies, and this is going to have a tremendous impact on taxi drivers, with 500 medallions going to cap companies, and it means the 500 drivers will not get a medallion. this is worse than taking their money, it is robbing them of their future, of any reason to remain as a cabdriver. this will be a dead-end job for many of these people. he would be condemning them to the tender mercies of corrupt cab companies, and you are going to be selecting which companies

are the winners -- and they will further dominate the industry. and it -- is wrong in so many respects, that i would ask that this be completely withdrawn, and reformulated. thank you. >> next? >> herbert weiner, for -- >> that is a highlighehter for what the cab drivers think. i have been idealizing -- the same thing that happens to us is happening to you. the demand keeps growing and you have to divide this, and we're

going to go for sources of revenue, and what we have seen is, -- we would give everything to you if this is enough for a good reason. that would be fine with us. but this will not solve the problem. you have to look at the gauges that you were working on, laziness and productivity, creativity. and we did the demonstrations, with the 600 cabs circling for the first time. if i was in your shoes i would possibly do the same thing, try to go for the bigger pie. but the thing is, with any of

you laid down, and see that others are making twice as much as you, and let people walk over you, so the next step would be to keep you off our shoulders. people are ready to put 200,000 -- 1000 if they have to, the 200 should do this. to put this on the ballot and get you out. this is not the first time in the history. then it -- the american indians were destroyed and some way different groups have been destroyed and we don't want to end up like this. >> thank you, so much. you need to save money to upgrade your system or the people who pay more money to pay for the system -- you think

about these own district and the system -- most of the people cannot go from union square to sunset. they walk from the tender line, to go to some kind of area -- so with every zone you only have a couple of bus stops. they want the free passes and everything. if you lived in cambodia or bangladesh they don't have food to eat. they will look at this and tell me that we miss the turn. today, kids are very spoiled. if you feed them they will come to you every morning. the medallion is good and people need a job. if you choose a cab co. -- if

you use a driver you allow them to sub-lease. this is in order to avoid the abuse of medallions. they could not least this out, with another driver to make money. this is also good for the public. this zone is very important. you have to learn about the high spot, and we're making money on the chinatown and union square. you have a couple of bus stops and that is all. people don't mind walking three or four blocks. i want to go to sunset -- or to richmond. this is good because the kids are too fat, they gain weight in the e to good. thank you. >> david snyder?

>> the is not here? >> >> good evening. >> there were no cards here. i am barry korngold. i am on the taxi advisory council. i came down here even though i know you are not talking about tax the items, but i know in the future you will talk about what to do with medallion reform, and i wanted to say that won't -- although the industry needs regulating, and you have been given the task of regulating the industry, there is a big difference between making things fair and safe, and going into the business of the taxi business, of selling or leasing the dalliance. and when you do this for every medallion that he sell out right, this is coming from some career cab driver who has

sometimes waited decades, taking all the risks of being on the road, all of the stress coming from that, there are a lot of things that i don't think any of you really understand because you have not driven a cab. this does not make you wrong, i am just trying to make you aware of that. this has been the practice of san francisco four years, to have these medallions going to working cabdrivers. it has been thrown about that you would lease them to the companies, they will not be going to working cabdrivers. so this system has kept a lot of good drivers in the industry. i would like to think i am one of them who have stuck around because i was going to get a medallion, because the list you to a management level, with more respect. i am asking you not to do that

because it will lower the quality of cabdrivers and you will have problems you are not expecting. >> thank you. >> are we ready for adjournment? we will stand adjourned until march 20. thank you all.

thursday, march 8, 2012. please note that the planning commission is meeting at this time -- i should note that the scheduled joint hearing between the planning commission and recreation and park commission is cancelled. we have a proposal to continue the items on that special calendar and the proposal for continuance is to march 22 at 10:00 a.m. to be held in this room. the planning commission will consider that proposal for a continuance and prior to the action of the commission, they will entertain public comment period before the commission will be a proposal for a continuance of all items on the calendar which are item one, 48 washington, certification of the final eir. case no. -- the case number is

the same for all of these -- is all for eight washington street for adoption of findings under the california environmental quality act, part b is to consider shadow limits force to be urban park. then an action for the recreation and park commission only where they would have recommended to the planning commission the shuttle from the proposed project would not have an adverse impact on the park and a consideration by the planning commission to consider whether at the shadow cast would be adverse to the park and outcries allocation to the shuttle to the project. then a request for the general plan amendment to map the northeast waterfront area part

of the plan. 2f would have been a consideration of emotion -- of a motion -- that the hybrid classification for the zoning map to reclassify two portions of the southwestern area of the development site to the 92 e height and bulk district and 136e to another portion. then the conditional use authorization. all of these items are being proposed for continues to march 22 at 10:00 a.m. to be held in this room. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, commissioners. >> [inaudible]

>> second. >> commissioners, on the motion for continuance of items one and two a through h, i am going to call on site. [will call] -- [roll call] we have a unanimous vote for continuance of all items on the calendar to march 22, 2012 at 10:00 to be held in these chambers. thank you. >> the meeting is adjourned.

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