the limited live performance permit, there are simple and this permittee is requesting a permit on his way to apply for a conditional use authorization at the edge. it is a small place that has been there for a long time. the previous operator did not take the opportunity when they had it to get a permit years ago when the land use of her was temporarily relaxed. in any case the new owners have done a tremendous amount of work on the space and they're here asking for and llp as they move through conditional use process. president newlin: any member of

the public like to address this issue? ok. did you want to come up and say a few brief words? >> thank you. >> if you have no questions i do not want to waste your time. president newlin: do we have a motion? >> move to approve. >> second. >> can i same house, same call this? president newlin: your permit has been approved. goodluck. item b. synoground, barry and zawinski, jamie. the dna lounge. >> they recently have gone

through the conditional use process with the planning department to basically purchase and include a pizza parlor that commissioner lee is intimately familiar with. next door to them to become part of the dna lounge. >> it is not yours any more. >> they have gone through an extensive outreach process and had a public hearing. in your package, you will find exhibit a from planning that sets out the conditions so they can expand this entertainment use in the western soma area. that is the requirement to do any expansion. we have had no issues with the dna lounge. dellwood of the better operators in the city. we bring this to you again

because there is an amendment to the amendment adding a bunch of area. it is only appropriate to do that. we do not expect any of their operations to change substantially. they are here. purple hair and all. to answer any questions you might ask. >> officer chan has submitted a bunch of these recommendations. there are the same. it seems like it is a little off. >> i am not going to speak in defense of southern station. these came late today and i got them. you can abide by them or not. >> it is not within our purview to talk about staffing drinks.

i think those should be eliminated. >> i do not believe the applicant has seen these again. i have read them out at southern station before this meeting. hougpresident newlin: any other commissioner questions? members of the public? nobody from the public, ok. >> i move to approve this permit with our standard good neighbor policies and not southern station's conditions. that is my motion. >president newlin: ok. did you have anything? >> thanks for having me. >> want to talk? >> ok. thank you.

do we have a second? >> i second. >> same house, same call? any objections? president newlin: you are good to go. good luck. and c, owens, paul. place of entertainment permit. >> this is an application that has been before you the third time. this is an application applied for in june, before you in july of last year and began in january. the commission requested more outreach occur. and i know the permittee is here. they intend to present dj's and live bands. for this upscale cocktail lounge

in the marina. there have been several meetings. i know you will hear from neighbors about those meetings. planning has indicated this is a continuation of permitted use in the police department conditions are the same. they did not change it all. there is an attached letter from supervisor farrell, dated today. i got it today. as you know, his representative was here the last two times and is not here this time. they submitted a letter. there are letters from the marina community association. one from a resident. there are letters attached in support of the application. in the letter, there are a variety of conditions that are being suggested. if you take a moment to look

through your packets, you have seen the variety of possibilities. staff is recommending conditional grant with conditions that are up to you as the commission. >> cleaning. my name is marsha garland. my firm was retained after two of the conditioners. we specialize in outreach and our task was to meet with the relevant and significant individuals in the community. people with a vested interest and the collected bodies in the community and we have done that. the venue as you know used to be gravity. which has a history we do not want to go into. the current owner has gone to a

great deal of trouble and expense to turn a nightmare into a place of beauty. we have had debates about whether there is enough -- this was an old sign. it was found nearby from an old gin and baht could distillery. that is why it is called that. -- gin and vodka vodka distillery. that is why it is called that. he hired kendall agins from agins interiors. that is still outstanding. as you can see. ok. just recently, the

neighboring business called the republic was granted an entertainment permit and it has a much larger capacity. this been you has operated in a stellar matter for the five months it has been opened. there have been no incidents and the reports. in the last few days, there have been a flurry of e-mails about the security issue. shaw security management also owns the republican -- the republic and has been hired to do the security for reed and greenough. he was not longer doing the security, but that was a misunderstanding and that has been worked out and he is back on board. there will be to security personnel, one in and one out.

the people we have reached out to include the neighbors in action and stafno -- stefano has had direct contact with her. she is [unintelligible] and 12 midnight saturday and sunday and 130 am daily providing it is not amplified. her other concerns were reasonable. the rain at community association is a supporter of the permit on weekends only but not during the week and has indicated she has concerns about other clubs and bars and restaurants in the area during the week. we informed her we were seeking 1:30 a.m. during the week and the necessary safeguards were in place. individuals who wrote, there was a man named john millar. we sent him a letter back and

have heard nothing from him. i met with the merchants association and they were satisfied with the outreach and conditions and supportive of this project. also, the police department is supportive of this project with the closing hour of 1:30 a.m. the ownership of reed and greenough accepts. they installed the surveillance cameras that were requested by the police department and will keep the tapes and the data for police review should be needed. -- should it be needed. i would like to add that i feel it is a great shame to hold a business accountable for the sins of a previous business ownership. i know there have been issues, personality issues in this case.

i do not think there are any justification for restrictions of hours. you can see from the photographs, this is a serious financial investment. we have many letters, under 10, but several from people across the street. businesses across the street adjoining them who also have long term vested interests in the marina. people who have owned property there or who have owned businesses there for almost 30 years who are supportive of mr. allen's. thank you. -- supportive of mr. owens. thank you. >> this commission never takes previous ownership. we always give someone a new start. we do not take into consideration the previous owner what we're granting a new permit. i understand from people who have contacted me personally

this is a lovely place, a great place. they're really like it. however, i appreciate any work you have done for this business. i am concerned about the fact that mr. owens went to a community meeting prior to hiring you and said to the people in that meeting i am here because i have to. my concern is he will not be a good community partner with the neighbors and the neighborhood in general. because his attitude is he had to do it for this permit. do you want to address that? >> he has a short fuse, perhaps. he is extremely frustrated because he felt he took something that was in the drugs and made something beautiful out of it and nobody appreciate his efforts -- nobody is appreciated his efforts. we have had a lot of the e-mail exchanges. we have tried to counsel him and

advised him that this is a process that everyone has to go through now days. all these rules are changing and it is what you need to do. >> ok. thank you. >commissioner hyde: has mr. owens done a lot of the outr each? it seems other parties have done it for him. >> he has done some of it himself. the business he -- businesses he patronizes were willing to meet with us. stefano can address most of the outreach. i i have been -- i have been tied up with other issues as you know. i was able to go to the marina merchants meeting. there were wonderful. completely turned around.

there were skeptical as well but they completely changed after hearing what had gone, what had taken place. >> it is detailed in some of the notes there. >> i understand there has been outraged done. -- outreach done. >> i was at the outreach meeting with the captain. there was some concern but the place looks beautiful. i know that place and when i walked in it was very nice. my only question, i want to make sure i understand. he is very passionate like all of us. the neighbors are tough and it does get frustrating.

personally, he is passionate with his place. when i heard he wants to have dj's there and people can have first parties. will he have full control of who the dj's -- he is providing the d.j.'s and the package deal. will he be the one controlling that or the people might want to control that or start charging money at the door. >> it is my understanding he has complete control over those contracts.

he has those rules in place with any contracts for a party like that. a private party. >> basically, he can check the dj's. there will call genser want to have a birthday party there. >> i do not think there will be the case. he has to much of a vested interest. he is passionate about this place. he has gone into some hot water. i think he cares passionately enough not to let anything go wrong. president newlin: any other commissioners? public comment? anyone from the public like to address this permit? no. there we go. >> patricia voy.

my concern is paul owens. i love the concept, i love the design. some things have happened. whe met with immediate neighbors at my insistence. let's start this and start on the right track. he told them it was not going to be an entertainment license. we found out at the last meeting he had applied to months before he talked to us. i am concerned about the fact that you gave him instructions to bring back drawings of where the equipment was going to be, specs' rental -- insulation, -- specs for insulation and location, and it has not shown

up in the file. i have not heard of a compromise in hours. i am standing here late at night at 9:00 p.m. and no one has come back to me with compromise on hours. there are three apartment houses around. we gave them a very good set of conditions of approval. concerning curtains, no parties in the alleys, no parties in the backyard. the planning commission told them not to ever have anything upstairs so we included that. i have some concerns. the big thing is the neighbors want to -- a liaison other than paul ownesens -- owens to them

with some decent hours. thursday's negotiable. friday and saturday, we said 12 to start out with in the negotiations and they have never come back with those accept for 2:00 a.m. i would like to see this settled. we need a decent liaison and we need someone who can work with the neighbors. i have been at meetings. the last meeting was with the marine a community association. our association never personally -- the association was not invited. that may have been an oversight. we have been trying to come up with some answers. we have not gotten any. i'm standing here once again not knowing what we're dealing with. that disturbs me at 5 minutes to

9:00 p.m. president newlin: thank you. are there any other members of the public who wish to address this permit? >> good evening. i am the attorney for reed and greenough. prior to hiring garland, i attended the same outreach meeting. it was not just through the public relations firm that community are breach occurred but it was also through mr. owens himself. i wanted to chat about what he has put into this establishment. we raised $1.40 million and every penny went into the renovation and build out of this place. there has been a lot of love and money and effort put into it. he has hired an experienced staff.

he has on his own from the one imposed a dress code. i believe that martha pointed out is controversy. no one asked him to do it. he did it. i asked him why and he said i want a certain kind of clientele and a certain kind of bar and this will help me get there. there have been a couple of comments this evening about him not reaching out to the community. i would like to point out that since reed and greenough has been open, he has made sure they have posted community events. he has an fundraiser -- done fundraisers on his own because this is the type of the establishment he wants to own. there was a misunderstanding between friday and yesterday but that has been resolved. where gorda have to be a security guards, one in the front and one in the back.

i would like to point out that there have been no incidents is in the last five months since he has been open. i have heard several times being an asset to the community. he has proven himself to be an asset and he has proven he has the kind of establishment that any of us would want in our community. with that, and you have any questions for me? president newlin: no, thank you for coming and thank-you for your presentation. anybody else? please come forward. >> hello. i am the past president of the marine and merchants association. we have met with paul owens cheryl *. i was at the meeting for the neighborhood and he invited everybody. i know that he did a lot of -- a job of outrage. i get it. i am a business owner.

pretty involved in my neighborhood. it is an asset, for sure. we're lucky to have him. he is doing the best that he can. i think we should note he has asked for help, which i think is good. we wrote a letter of support from our president. i hope you will consider it. president newlin: thank you. >> i was retained as part of the gardland -- pearl and public relations team to do the average necessary trade and want to thank patrisha. i have been on the phone week after week and my wife thinks i'm having an affair with a lady named patrisha. there has been extensive, ongoing research. and outreach.

i want to say that we felt the most of her conditions were very fair and reasonable and customary. the only point of difference were the hours of operation. we felt we did not want to hamper the revenue stream nor was there indications that this kind of place would need restrictions that would hamper the revenue source. the reason being is there are surveillance cameras installed and they would be shared with the no. station upon their request. also you have two security guards. one of the guys across the street mentioned, i asked what is the difference between what was there before and now? he owns a small pizzeria. he said i do not get the the impact or the volume of people but i get good quality. people come in, they're nice and polite and i am cool with that. i said this is an opportunity,

where place can complement another place and there is a synergy effects. he said by all means kehoe i am happy and during the months of construction when there was nobody there, i suffered. i almost one out of business. i said that is great. i went to people in the community and asked what they thought. they said this is the gold standard of lounges. what was there was a nightclub. they used outside promoters and invited people in who were not respect oil -- respectful. i know the shot that neighbors had. when there was a homicide and a new guy comes in, there was an initial shock. the ship hit the rocks a little bit. he felt how can you be upset with this? the process is the process and that is for everyone. now the ship is out to sea and is sailing along. we need to be supporting this

guy. he has put $1.40 million investment capital in the community. i do not think there should be any restrictions on the hours. 1:30 a.m. is in the spirit of staggered closing. if by chance there is, we can come back here. what i would like for you to do is if there is not compromise on the hours, have a rollback in three months with no incidents or report, he can go to another level automatically. >> i have a point of information. i need to ask you some questions. we heard from the applicant and from other merchants. every president -- precedent and a resident association we got has a different story. i appreciate his investment. something good should be there.

i am all for it. i think mr. owens and his initial outrage was disingenuous and the community responded. by having some compromise in hours at least mid week would be what is called for. and then coming back at some point in the future whenever you guys want to. how do you see that? >> i think this commission has got a packet full information. i think at this point, i trust the judgment of this commission. >> thank you. >> i have a question for the applicant. >> we're in public comment. president newlin: anybody else? what is the hours you would like? >> i think with corp. and being

genuine, 1:30 a.m. and being a thirty minute cutoff from staggered closing. i do not have -- i do not see high impact. people come in, -- >> we're talking weekdays. you do not have to argue your point. there is a mention that there was another club immediately adjacent. >> i believe you are talking about the republic. president newlin: 1 hours are they allowed? >> until 1:30 a.m. seven days a week. president newlin: all right, the matter is with the commission. any further questions? i do not want to get hung up on his said what and who did what and who may have mentioned this. i think th