commissioner campos: good afternoon and welcome to the march 23, 2012 meeting of the san francisco local agency formation commission. i am the chair of the commission. linda wong is the commission clerk. madam car, if you can call roll call. commissioner avalos: present. >> commissioner olague is absent. commissioner schmeltzerchair ca? commissioner campos: we do have a quorum of the commission. >> approval of minutes from the

2012 -- commissioner campos: before we take action on this, is there any member of the public that would like to speak? public comment is closed. motion by commissioner schmeltzer, second by commissioner avalos. call item 3. >> community twice aggregation, a status update on cleanpowersf program, a status update on proceeding at the california public utilities commission and a status update on state legislation. [chime] >> good afternoon, and director of cleanpowersf. a few things to update on, we continue to move forward with

finalizing the services that we need, the call center in tracking which puts customers and and out, working with noble america's on that. having some good discussions with them on that. will waiting for action on the board of supervisors as well as the contract for the energy and supplies. it is up for the first year in force of the committee, and subsequent board of supervisors to follow. we have had continuous discussions with local power on their ideas around enhancing the

bill the associated with the program. in fact, staff had a meeting with some of the advocates this morning on that subject. both of my remarks are in response to the request of the last meeting about opt-out and such. we wanted to give an update on the last little bit. analyzing the types of customers that make up the the average customer base here in san francisco, it would be in the high 40% for opt-out. we think it can get lower by figuring out ways to target different communities, and

different types of areas, and different attitudes or makeup of customers. we go through the deep analytical work and the statistical models to overlay what we can gather from market research in terms of asking customers what their attitudes are about the real ovals and the price premium a as well as overlain with records about demographics as well as things that related to public power and how people voted in various precincts like pg&e's coccyx team effort. it went down pretty handily in san francisco, but in other ways, it went down more heavily than others.

we're looking at various energy related matters on the ballot here in san francisco. commissioner campos: before you continue, i know that commissioner pimentel has a question. first of all, i forgot to thank the moembers of sfgtv staff. i also wanted to welcome our new a member, commissioner christina olague. with that, commissioner pimentel? commissioner pimentel: be no witch sides of the city have the highest opt-out rate? >> we don't know yet, we have projected rates. commissioner pimentel: do you know which side are more in favor? >> we will be doing much more granular research than we have

done in the past. what we have seen is the north and the western parts of the city, because of the nature of the research we did up until now out, it wasn't really granular enough. that is the next level we're going to be doing. in general, the northwest, if i had to make my best guess now, it would be the area with the lowest hot out. san francisco as we know ait is more like swiss cheese. i am thinking there are different ways home yet. that is how we will bring various proposals in terms of strategies on how to rescind or opt-out notices.

commissioner campos: mr. campbell, as you're doing this analysis in looking at the data, when you think you will have a better sense of what the often- out number will be? >> we think it will have results to share about one month's time. commissioner campos: can you talk about if you are communicating with some of the advocates to make sure that the rate is as low as possible? >> we have discussions regarding local power work and they talk about off-out rates there. it is very much a plant discussion. we're keeping those dialogues open. just so i can be complete, the proceedings related to the cpuc and state legislation, the

latest intelligence is the cpuc is making a final decision on what the performance bond would be, and it is really an august timeframe. it is related to bonds for direct access. those are going through the process first. regarding the implementation of state legislation that we had, it is moving forward with proceedings of having their be enhanced code of conduct for how the utility's interact. we are very active in that proceeding. we have been working with other communities that are interested to make sure that we have a unified front.

there are also comments that will be due april 16. we will be filing on monday, the cpuc will be taking up those items to decide on code of conduct rules. commissioner campos: the august date, is that something you have received from puc saying that is what they are expecting? >> it is based upon conversations i have had with those that are familiar with the proceedings there. commissioner campos: in terms of the code of conduct by communities, what are the kinds of issues that we are talking about in terms of the kinds of

things that protocol will address? >> one of the biggest ones is functional separation. if the utilities can handle marketing aspect to their utilities to try to sway folks from participating, that it not be housed in to the same group as the utility's. we are trying to come up with recommendations on ways to mitigate the incumbent power that the utility has, both money and resources and information. as well as rules about how utilities should have on what they are able to say, that type of thing. commissioner campos: any questions?

>> i think he hit on the major points i would have hit on. it is actually not a hearing on the contract itself. a contract actually plays a big part, but it is not actually part of the approval process. i wanted to make sure that was clear. he mentioned the meetings he would be having with the advocates and the discussion with mr. campbell and his staff to talk to them about what it looks like and have a look at where is the best place to go to start programs since we will be targeting for the initial launch? where the most customers located? those kinds of issues are what we will be looking at. hopefully we will be able to

share a little more detail on that in the next meeting. there is not much else at this point. commissioner campos: colleagues, any questions? why don't we open it up for public comment? >> eric brooks representing, as usual, san francisco green party. dresser's advocates of that with commissioner -- megrassroots advocates met with commissioner olague. she has a good grasp of the importance of the localized renewable. that was heartening.

it was my way of reminding us that for advocates, a product that moves forward without insurancassurance that that will happen is something we would not be thrilled about. let's make sure that does occur. we really want to see that it gets a lot lower than the 40%. in the meetings that we have had with lafco and puc staff, more and more this concept of rolling and customers at the beginning of the project has renewable and efficiency share owners.

but buying in the shares for billing code-ownership, things like that, what local power is coming up with, an opportunity to introduce customers to a couple meetings ago, how they think that they can use this method of getting people to sort of buy and stood of rent into the system, buying instead of renting electricity. the main thing that they think they can accomplish is price parity with pg&e.

we need to make sure they are still cooking the data, once it comes forward, that will be an exciting opportunity for us to get this project under way. thanks. commissioner campos: is there any other member of the public that would like to speak on this item? public comment is closed. these are informational items. to clarify, is there any action that is required of us at this juncture? great. if you can call item no. 4. >> update on study on the voting process including ranked hoyas voting for the local offices in the city and county of san francisco. commissioner campos: we wantt