>> that brings the deviation to district 7 to 0.29% a the deviation of district 8 t 10 - 1.1. -- district 8 to -1.14%. canw we look at the line? i think it's way too high, but -- >> and giggled.

i'm getting old. an unhear>> is probably close e. >> i want to make sure that we did this really closely. for population purposes, the population in the highlighted area is 1991 people, bringing the deviation to district 96.58%, and the deviation for district 1010 -0.67%.

>> and somebody was right collecting input in the portal at over 2000 people. i guess with the obvious trade- offs -- >> the thing is, if you put that in there and you put north of mission all the way to the freeway, then they have those people. >> i am thinking of district 10 that would be over populated. i just want to see the numbers. >> i would like to point out that if you want to try some of

these things out, it is very quick to underlit again. don't be shy to ask us to draw one. >> are we shy? >> we are a number of things, but shy? >> you want the entire perkin there? -- park in there? >> 23, 26 -- >> who obviously.

obviously. >> 16,058 people. district nine, 18.08%. >> cn wan we look at patrero asn alternative? and see -- it's not even enough to cover that, is my understanding.

>> [inaudible] >> would you like the entire hill area, or just the area currently in district 10?

dr. helen be moved to 6, yes. >> 2008 hundred and 54 people. that would bring the deviation -- >> 2804 people. >> it's not just it, to david's point, the population depth is between 280 and district 9 line. that is what you're talking about moving. no, even that -- i encourage -- i think that we should think about it because we have split opinion. for others that are really considered, it would be important to see a plan for what that looks like. >> i wanted to make a comment.

this is not to advocate one way or the other, but if you wanted to put it in 10, you effectively have to do our rotation. these are all rotation jobs. you end up with most of the hill and greater mission bay in 6. naughton and the killing more to the north mission, but it also has the effect of really cutting into soma. wouldn't be 16th, 14th, the freeway or 11th. it ends up in a very strange place in the western -- and the western soma folks would have issues. haute there is a balance to be had.

>> i think we have some targeted areas for next week cosy discussion. similar to raising that i think the task force should be prepared and will have some link the mapping sessions, a solar want to encourage members to be ready for the endurance that will be required. next week, we will have the task force present. at this time, if there are no additional inquiries, we will move on to the agenda item, community outreach. >> thank you. i forwarded to -- or i asked

madam clerk to forward to task members the ads that came out for community outreach. we have five. and there were two, one in english and one in japanese. we have reporters that came out with a half page and i think they were supposed to come out today or two days ago, a full- page ad. i don't know if you want me to pass this around -- >> those are the same onees. s. >> not all of them, i think there were only three that provided -- these are the actual ones. i just want to point out that

these went out in the last two weeks. they have the codes to hopefully reach to the young people. there were questions about newsletters and a neighborhood of publications. i don't know how to track the results of that, but the project got rich will be

completed. >> we appreciate it. this is reaching the various media outlets. public comment for community outreach at this time? >> judy berkowitz, are these examlpeples of outreach? are they going to be literally or c virtualut and pasted -- or virtually cut and pasted into the file? i want to make sure they are going into the official file. >> don't make the tenderloin part of the knobb hill coalition.

when they brought the mapping in to the tenderloin neighborhood, five people showed up. this gentleman with me today it was the last known german. the sort of people that really are needed to bring the tenderloin back together are starting to come to these meetings, they operate on a shoestring budget, we're pretty much used to not getting our way. that doesn't bother us. if you would really like to make my life miserable, you would actually agree with us.

the responsibility, i have to come through. just a thought. we will move to agenda item number four, the task force work plan. last week's meeting, we had initial discussions around the final report. one of the major markers of the completion of our work, not only in addition to the mass and the redrawing of the district line by the deadline april 14, but the documentation about the process and how we arrive at the final maps. the draft outline that was afforded, i want to open up for

discussions around landing on some benchmarks in some enter and deadlines. i know that the house member have also raised, in addition to the final report, how we developer process where both the report would be compiling the report that doesn't have the necessary wait until the final maps are drawn that we can do those simultaneously. i did get an update from mr. schreiber that he is charged with the topics of the first three topics, and production, criteria, and a process that he would have a draft to the process by the middle of next week. it would give us an initial market by april 4 that we would have the first three sections forwarded to the coeditors.

i believe that you have put together an initial recommendation? >> can i take a moment on that? >> does anyone have a copy of the draft from last -- >> [inaudible] so what i said that the -- what i said i would do at the last meeting is to identify those chunks that i thought were other areas where we have moved or that we have talked about it decided to keep where they were.

this was not perfect. i was attempting to look at those, and i could think of the filipino community as a cross- district area. i would invite others to do some more work. we could come up with some examples or elsewhere for the type of narrative that i thought would be useful. is sentenced to a paragraph depending on complexity would be warranted. i would like to reflect what we got into public comment growth and the meetings and in writing and any other data sources, so that was kind of what i was

thinking. and i spent a little time on three paragraphs with lessons learned and recommendations. others are little more assertive. i would encourage people to think about that. i am hoping that this will be useful and if this is -- i am not sure it is too much, if more is warranted, i can add to its and those hoping that we can grow this report and put pieces to it in the next couple of weeks. a that we will not wait until the end. >> we talked about writing these paragraphs, it is our responsibility doing this that we do it by next week.

i thought that we could do it by the end of next week because, actually, i've got a high you feel, but it only gives us another week for us to edit everything. i am not willing to stay up until the middle of the night. i have students that i have to correct papers for. i would like to suggest that the very latest, april 5 would be that we get all of the draft for everyone who is responsible for doing the draft. it gives us a few days to actually give them back or get clarity, and otherwise we will run up to the last-minute, and whatever we decide it is going to read like, is going to be.

we'd have some reflection -- or we need to have some reflection. >> going with the same sentiment, i was going to suggest that we look at using thursday april 5 as the point where we make the final decision on a map so that we can spend the remainder of the time focused on the report itself. >> reactions? >> i have a couple of comments, and the one thing i am mindful of, summarizing the public comment, one for legal reasons. have a primary issue being that although i would appreciate a summary of public comment from the last half force, i think

that over time, i would have different opinions about the information and about the neighborhoods. i have enjoyed the public comment process and learning how the city has changed. i think it is important not to set an expectation that this is a big issue here. i think that similarly, we open ourselves to a lot of criticism and debate by summarizing and highlighting particular areas. it is inevitable that a certain amount of judgment comes in. we do have a number of public comments, both in the minutes, and in the submissions. as a whole, i am personally not in favor of that.

i would be very mindful of having an overall length he report. i think it is important that everyone provide feedback and i would not want anyone to spend an obscene amount of time editing. >> i think the paragraph is probably a maximum. actually highlighting different points that were expressed, the pros and cons and the very summarized manner, not giving any judgment. and then the alliance would be the ones that will tell the story. >> i agreed with the official summary point, i want to make that clear. >> so i can also be your feedback, when they have

prepared us far, naming actual discussion points of certain neighborhoods within the district, is your feedback you believe it also has a judgment? >> i think would probably lean toward that. i would be willing to change my mind on how it is drafted. i think it is important for instance, when we talk about process, our effort to really be out in the community, i think that is important. and the things that we looked into, the calling. >> and following up on the comment of the community input processed, it would live within

section three. >> are we going to be addressing how many meetings we have had, like an average number of meetings? and i don't see anything, and i don't have a copy of the outline. are we going to address the other issue? i know it was closed session, but will there be a summary of what we discussed? what we are allowed to put out in the final report? >> the content remains closed unless the task force of the body votes to waive the

confidentiality. there is an affirmation, basically what was included on the agenda is public information. >> we don't have to say anything, is the short version. >> hearing that she is one of the editors, she requested that we have our draft by the fifth, also have a proposal to not include the summary of themes. and finish mapping, i think was. >> i know you were concerned, and what i would like to propose

is that we all draft about our neighborhood and have its circulated to all members of the task force, and that we also have the city attorney look into it for cleansing if there is a need for it. and if we don't feel like including it, we don't included. at that point, if we see the content of the information and in each segment, we include it. first, we need to look at how is written. we think it might be not objective. having that is where your concern is. that would be my suggestion, to include things can't decide if

we want to include them. i mean, right things and decide if we want to include them. it would be less paper for us to read, but i don't want to leave any buddies in put out of this. that would be my suggestion, and i want to vote that we have everything else. i want to move that we have everything in by the fifth. >> may be offering my own twist on the member's suggestion, for background for myself, my own thinking about this whole issue of the pros and cons of articulating some of the rationale, i could get comfortable with limiting it to a paragraph.

i think that in the interests of honoring, and to some extent, even if it is in a very abbreviated form, the vast amount of public comment that we have received and has been essential to the thought process, i have reservations about not including -- taking the approach, in other words, of letting the lions speak for themselves. i think there is a lot of potential value to all the folks, many of whom have dedicated as much time as we have in these proceedings to see at least some record or reference to the comments, and the testimony that they provided. i was going to suggest something before the member made her

suggestion, a slightly different approach. instead of having all of us take an attempt at drafting error respect of paragraphs, if one or two of us would be willing to take that step, and maybe by the next meeting, for us to look out and see how we feel, it can be provided as well. we can see what we think of that general approach, i think it can be a little unwieldy for all nine of us to be taking our own cuts at 11 different descriptions or nine different approaches. if one or two people could make their best attempt, it would be

objective and be free of judgment. that could, at least, give us something to consider. hopefully, it won't be too hard for each of us if we consider to turnaround. i am being little long-winded. >> the only thing i was going add to that is that we have to be mindful, to the extent that anything is written, be mindful of the goal that we have had certainly to preserve the communities of interest. we have also been questioned over time as to what it means, so that when you call out a particular district, you are inevitably calling