>> i want to let my colleagues asked questions as well. i know that one area of crime is electronic devices. the tablets, laptops, and computers. i think we chatted about this offline. making sure the tablets and the phones went completely dead, that you could go home and press a button and they were not reusable. they could not be sold again because they're basically paperweight. is there anything that we can do to encourage the company to do that as well? i know that is a huge proportion here in the city. >> i know there are members in the state legislature looking at it as well. and i am happy to speak to whoever you want on the merits of that. it is not worth stealing if it

is not going to be worth moving once it is sold. they do it in australia were essentially whoever the proprietor was, whoever was bustled phone, they can basically turn the phone off so that it is useless once it is stolen. i was reading an article the other day that the average person loses one cell phones each year to theft or losing it. it seems it would be a good idea, especially whether it is an atm or foam, within a half hour if it's used. -- or phone, it is used within a half hour. supervisor chu: just an update on the staffing issue. we have a lot of crimes that never get investigated because of the nature of the severity of things. having had that, that has been

extremely helpful. you see any efforts to decentralize other functions that have been centralized in the past? >> we have. we to centralize the big motorcycles. -- we decentralized the big on recycles. we also did that with your bike motorcycle so they have a closer proximity to golden gate park, which is what they were originally designed for. we added another half a dozen officers to that so that we have plenty downtown so that we have them in the bayview and tenderloin. the thinking being we get accidental policing as they come to and from work. supervisor chu: supervisor winnwiener. supervisor wiener: just a brief

follow up to supervisor kim's questions. what is important to keep in mind is that although we do engage in cost recovery, and that can be useful, i think one of the reasons we have put that in places we have seen outdoor festivals that have been pushed to the brink of nonexistence, because of a very high city and they tend to be the highest. the cost recovery in theory is a good thing, in practice it can really reduce the vibrancy of the streets and cultural value of some of the bears and festivals. even fares and festivals that may be oare sympathetic, they can still add tremendous value to the economy and street life,

so i think it is important not to engage in excessive fees. there is always a fine line about what is policing and simply responsibility. sometimes public gatherings happen where cost recovery is not appropriate at all. i just wanted to put that out there. supervisor chu: thank you. supervisor avalos: thank you. thank you for your presentation. i have been pretty impressed with the relationship knowing what has gone on between the police department and youth groups over the past few years, and several years there was the development of dgo. 7.o7.01.

i think we're really putting in place some really great standards. just recently there was the presentation by a police commission, you commission that when dawn on march 7, and that was great. i know there was a great deal of interest from young people, and to hear from young people as well. the youth commission came up with a memo after that hearing, and there were three recommendations. have you had a chance to review that? >> yes, we're speaking to that tonight at the police commission.

supervisor avalos: do you have a recommendation? >> the one recommendation is the know your rights pamphlet the more distributed. i know some of it was jurisdiction we not hours, more widely distributed within the schools. we are happy to drop them off. i cannot make the school district do what ever. supervisor avalos: i think the creation and distribution is really important. >> they exist. supervisor avalos: i know there was a video created last year. any additional comments for that? >> there are people that call and ask us thait they can use tt or four were that? no one need ask. if they need a fund drive or whenever they want, i do not

think you have to ask for permission. that is in no brainer. >> that is really great. there was also another recommendation around training of officers and working with young people as well. >> yes, the capt. flew up to seattle. we're trying to do everything as at least expensive as possible in using as many local people as we can. i know we have been working closely on the the critical people in crisis. -- crisis intervention team training. a lot of those mental health professionals have donated their time. then we found money for stipends.

the seattle group is offering to train the trainer. we have had doctors that solve the presentation and offered they would be willing to come in pro bono and speak to brain functions of juvenile. we're absolutely trying in earnest to come up with the training as soon as possible for advanced officers, and more importantly, if we're going to hire a certain amount of new police officers, we would like that to be a block of training. one thing we're going to do is take a day or month when officers are in the academy and will do that time just with youth. we would bring it used the news professionals and to do the training in the morning, and officers would do that afternoon at a boys' and girls' clubs, park and wrecked facility just to take the police had off and interact with people in san francisco for an afternoon. and hopefully somebody would catch the bug, and later on that

is something they would want to do much like right now where we have police officers in the northern district or working up on hunters point, strictly with young people. supervisor avalos: that is great to hear. that is a critical part of relationship building that is preventive and corrective policing as well. great to hear there are things the department is taking up under current leadership. i appreciate that. the last recommendation to come out of the youth commission was looking at developing a memorandum of understanding between the school district and the high schools and district stations. is that also in the works? >> we have a great relationship with the school district. i am happy to sit down and have a conversation. i just came from the middle school where we did another future graduates presentation. i really do believe that all of

the young people in public school in san francisco, we know for a fact they all live here. it would be great if when the old soldiers go out the door, if that was the new complement, that would be great, because their home ground. -- homegrown. supervisor cohen: thank you. well we have you here, i was wondering, like around 15th, is there as a tactical unit? what is that facility? >> that is where the special operations had quarter is. -- headquarters is. bomb experts are part of it. transportation authority workers are part of it. we use that as the department operation center as well, which

is that after hours. when you get phone calls of incidents within your district, they come out of that building. supervisor cohen: you will remain part of that building? you are not leaving is what i am asking? >> we are there to stay. supervisor kim: i wanted to follow up on supervisor avalos' questioned about the use recommendation. thank you for hosting a joint hearing for the police commission. a lot of the young people i talk to really thought it was a good hearing and really appreciated being heard. i know these recommendations are important to them. i know mou is a controversial waord between you and i, i do

remember parents and guardians have questions about who contacted them. and i know there are clarifying questions around that, and i think it would be good to have something in writing so that the adult guardians knew what the process is and how notification happens. the last question i had, i think it is important is there are minimum requirements that we somehow advertised that in high schools. i am not quite sure what minimum requirements are, but i want to make sure our students are qualified and eligible. whenever i can do to help facilitate that. >> it is really pretty basic. you have to be a citizen, a high-school diploma, a valid california driver's license, and your criminal record has to be pretty much cleaned. ged or graduate from high

school. when we came in, you have to be a resident of san francisco, but that is no longer the case. supervisor kim: something that came up when i was on the board of education, what are there are worse? i diddo know they do not always aligned with the school hours. because of the south hours, we do not have them assigned to have schools that we used to. now they are more district sro's. most of them high of an sro or two that handle all of the schools. bayview, i believe, has three. one of them is on disability. they are responsible for all of the schools, rather than being assigned to a school like it was

when we were back in 1971. supervisor kim: this is still the case that sometimes they start earlier and the shift ends early? were you able to address that issue? >> overtime use to make it a 12 hour day and patrol was only 10 hours days. the school is a five day week. we need it twice as many. it was what ever. the reason that they start before is a lot of the problems is before school. you wanted the sro's to be amongst the corridors before school. then at the day was to the point where by the time they got out of school, the officer had run the 10-hour day or eight-hour day. we tried to do it with cut and paste of swing shift officers.

it was hard to get one officer to be in both places. it there was only one officer, then they had no one outside. it seemed to be better to come up with sectional officers augmented by regular officers on patrol to try to cover everything in school and out of school. supervisor kim: so we were able to address the issue? >> yes. it would be great to have the schools say how they would like to approach it. >> thank you. supervisor chu: i want to thank the cheap and the department for presenting the information to us. i think many of us have different questions in subject areas we wanted to address. i am glad we were able to hear some of that today. i am glad we were able to hear potential movement with regards to the pao with regards to

reductions of entry level folks. just for me come in terms of the area i really wanted covered that i think is needing more information on, i think we could benefit from more information is the area of the academy class is. i think that always gets glossed over. i really would like to see the department work with the comptroller's office, in addition to the mayor's budget office to really come up with something we can clearly see as a possible next step action plan going forward. i am wondering if we might be able to request the comptroller's office. is it at all possible given that your auditors did the work to review that and see whether this information is still relevant or whether there are new suggestions that would be possible? in terms of the academy class is, i think many of us are concerned with the fact that there is a huge loss from the

drop in attrition. we have all sorts of possibilities whether it is lateral or make sense to have new hires. i think a combination might make sense. i am open to that, but i also want to understand, because i would imagine the mayor will consider these academy class is. this board might consider it as well and how it is we might drive down costs and space it out over time and what the costs are actually and it will be an important conversation to have ahead of time. i would like the committee to hear at least those components again from the police department. i am just wondering if i have missed anything? anything else that you would like to add to hear in a follow- up hearing? supervisor avalos: just that i think it would be good to hear different scenarios coming into the extent you are able to work with the mayor's office to help provide the scenarios would be

really good. my preference is that since academy class's are really big- ticket items, and i want to be able to support them as we move forward, to the extent it can be done in the mayor's budget where there is flexibility to create that would be best. supervisor chu: if we can come can we continue this to the call of the chair? we will do that without objection. any other items before us? we are adjourned. thank you.