be refused entry of their identification is damaged. that is normal stuff. security shall not allow the eight persons involved in altercations to leave the premises. that is also in the security plan. to keep the peace of the immediate area, security shot patrol those areas where patrons are most likely to park. are you asking them to patrol beyond 50 or 100 feet from the premises? >> know. where the club is located, they are using public transportation. they cannot be seen from the front of the club. >> my question is, that is more than 50 or 100 feet away. i do not know that we can legally require civilians, even

though they are security guards, to patrol beyond the area required by the permit. we would have to check with that. maybe i can ask staff. the 15 people in the smoking area, unless the applicant has a problem, i do not have a problem. i have a problem with no q shall be allowed for patrons waiting to enter after occupancy has been reached. that is the lifeblood of a business. where would you like the people to -- i do not understand. i do not agree with that. i would not want that. people have to be able to stand in line. everybody stands in mind. no boy during is good. -- loitering is good.

i am good with all of the stuff wexcept number 8. most of it is in their security plan. where our good neighbor policy. -- or our good neighbor policy. commissioner hyde: anybody else want to chime in? any questions? thank you, officer. all right. commissioners, and more -- we have public comment. >> i have come to speak as an industry advocate for this. i think it is a seamless transition. it is a stabilizing force because the management is going

to continue to manage. that is going to rub off on the rest of the people that are new to the location. i disagree with the police department that the area is not conducive. most people have issues when the neighbors are concerned. 90% of the problems are neighborhood concerns. noise is not going to be a factor because it is an industrial area. i want to encourage more business in the bayview. i have spoken and heard supervisor cohen encourage people to go to the bayview. i just did a party at the clam house. we need to bring business and it stimulates the community. the camera issue, and d know thatu -- i know that duc has installed a state of the art

camera system. we will know who was there. overall, i think this thing should go until 6:00 a.m. if need be, a six month timetable to come back and evaluate. full steam ahead. i think the bay view needs it. i think these are the right people. they have the resources to make the necessary changes to make this a prosperous place. i look forward to you are approving this. >> any other public comment? the issue is with the commission >> i would like to make a motion to approve conditional grant, including our good neighbor policy as written.

and police conditions 2 through 7, 9 through 15. eliminating number 8 and number 16. the conditional grant shall be for a place of entertainment and extended hours permit. that is my motion. >> are we going to have a condition for time? >> it is a standard permit with no conditions of time. >> we were going to reexamine it.

>> if there is a problem with this permit, we will know it. he will bring it to the commission. the staff has mediation power and power of enforcement. i trust the staff to do that. that is my motion. >> we have a motion on the floor. >> can you repeat that? >> ok, i will repeat it. my motion is i move to approve for a place of entertainment extended hours permit, including our good neighbor policy, and all of the police conditions except condition number 8, which is no queu shall be formed. that does not work with business. and number 16, limiting it to 2:00 in the morning. >> i would like to second.

>> any further discussion? i have one comment, i forget your exact terms or your wording when you referred to the people that were objecting to a late hour hamburger place. i think it was inappropriate. in this role, we have to weigh the values of the committee against the values of the venue. for people to not want something in their neighborhood, i do not think they should be referred to in the terms that you did. they have a right to express their disagreement. i am sure people have people sitting on their front steps and all of the things associated with light -- late night things that are a negative pull on a late-night venue. we will continue to attempt a balance with the community and the entertainment industry. it is fair to say everybody

should have a fair voice without being criticized whether they support or do not support a particular thing. i guess we can call the roll. commissioner perez: yes. commissioner hyde: yes. commissioner joseph: yes. commissioner tan: yes. commissioner hyde: item 5d, luu duc, roccapulco. a place of entertainment. >> this was before you earlier this year. it needs to be before you again because of a procedural error the first time. >> what was the error? >> the commissioner next to you. >> what was that?

>> there was a conflict of interest. >> with you? >> at the last meeting he recused himself. too late. all right, i see. gotcha. what are we doing now? we're doing it again? we're starting over. ok. is there somebody to speak for the club? >> i am appearing for roccapulco. i have with us tonight the former owner and the current managing, general manager and head of security, tony.

he was out of town last time. he was at the nightclub show in the las vegas and we did not get a chance to hear from him. i passed around some pictures. this is the largest latino club for about 100 miles. it place a salsa music. it has been here since i moved to town in the early 1970's. it is a great venue. it is a large venue. the matter was heard last time, tony is owed, he bought a club on a promissory note. the notes came due. he had occasion to meet duc luu. duc was interested in coming in,

providing the money put his corporation as the management of that location he asked -- location. he asked tony to stay on. i went on a neighborhood meeting and i was surprised when i walked in. i am used to people not being happy with nightclubs. my surprise was how beloved by the neighborhood group he was because it appears that five or six years ago he had cleaned up the club and got rid of all the problems. i believe this got passed around. i have put in an amended questionnaire. there was an issue last time in the recommendations, on page 2

there were a couple of changes. we forgot to put tony in as a manager. the other changes we wanted to do seven days a week a dj starting at 9:00. i admitted -- omitted, he would like the right also if the book a big band. there was some issue on the conditions that had to do with, bear with me here, had to do with promoters. i'm going to have tony speak in a second. he told me, ricky martin has played there in the last few years. that is always brought in by a promoter. a promoter who will have an act. this is how the business is run.

that condition would pretty much put any live acts and put this business in jeopardy. i would request that not be added to the permit. again, i will not go too far into it but we did have a meeting with the neighborhood groups. they seem to be happy with what is going on. the list of that is on the ande, the neighborhood outreach, it was -- i apologize. it was the -- he will speak to that. they do a lot of charity events for some of these folks out

there. if you will bear with me, i would like tony to say a few words on the history of the club and talk about what he is doing now. >> i'm going to try to make it brief because i know you want to get out of fear. i have been at roccapulco for five years. i own it with my brother. we took the management for about eight years. we have killed it -- kept it a place where we bring people into town. we have fundraisers, we have done a few pre-parties, at the mission district, carnival has done some of their events there. we are continuing to open the doors. he had the vision to continue doing the stuff we're doing there now.

>> any questions? >> i'm curious about your sound system. you say you have a five jbl monitors. >> they are for live music. commissioner joseph: your floor days, i do not recognized thisjbl model. >> they are under the stage. >> facing the door? >> facing the wall. commissioner joseph: you rig is flown? how often do you use live acts scheduled by promoters? >> pretty much every friday and saturday. sometimes you just have live music. and we do is also a lesson. -- a salsa lesson. commissioner joseph: will there

be a change in the operation? >> it is the new management's intention to keep it as it is. commissioner joseph: live music is promoted by promoters around the country. like my indignation, -- live nation, it is true of that music. >> any other commissioners have questions? is there any public comment? sing and, the matters with the commission. i will entertain a commission. commissioner joseph: ok, i move to approve a congressional grant for a poe. i will incorporate the police conditions except item number3

which says the applicant will post ended here to the san francisco planning code -- and adhere to the san francisco planning cut. they shall not make any structural changes without any -- written approval of the police department. i think they need approval by the building department. i am striking number six. they shall not use a third party promoters. i would like to strike that. we have our promoter registry act. to restate the motion, i move to approve a conditional grant, eliminating police condition 3, 6, and nine. >> we have a second. do you want to call the roll? commissioner perez: yes. commissioner hyde: yes. commissioner joseph: yes. commissioner tan: yes.

chair newlin: yes. >> thank you and good luck. hopefully we will not see you again. [laughter] item number six. comments and questions. commissioners? >> is this a comment or question? i have a few comments -- commissioner joseph: uh-oh. >> the community housing partnership has their annual fund-raiser. people who are house by them, and perform. -- come and perform. that is going to be on april 25. i am going to judge this year. it is a great party. i wanted to talk for a minute

about a party called hard french. people always say to me, how can entertainment be community building? at 7:00, i looked around me and there were, everywhere people were dancing and smiling in having a good time. the line goes around the block. if we want to continue living as a major city and promoting this sort of community building entertainment, we have to allow for outdoor sound sometimes like they have. we have to allow for these places to happen. the fact that there is a line where hundreds of people are turned away is detrimental for the city. maybe we should work with the community to help create better events and say for events instead of eliminating them. -- safer events instead of eliminating them. commissioner hyde: any other

comments or questions? item number seven, and new business for future agenda items. seeing none, i will officially close the tuesday, april 10, a meeting of the entertainment commission. you have a four hours to pay your property taxes if you have not done so. >> you can pay them online. >> all of those people out there that did not pay their taxes and stayed at home to watch the entertainment commission. [laughter] i got a 10% discount on my taxes.

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