the u.s. needs turkey more than turkey needs us. do you really think turkey is going to listen to a bunch of insignificant in willie brown's words pantywaist politicians and lectured them about their history? last year, kim kardashian, america's most famous armenian american, appeared on a magazine cover. if she, who is more intelligent in generally held public esteem than yourselves, and let bygones be bygones, why can you not give armenia a rest this year? thank you. supervisor chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i did not have any intent to speak this afternoon because i was hoping to meet the three or

four ladies that i met about a month ago where we expressed our opinions about ross mirkarimi. they are not here this afternoon, but i'm sure they will extract the information via television or whatever. i just wanted to say a couple of things. on april 23, which is next week monday, at 5:30 in room 400, here in city hall, will be the ethics commission meeting. i will be speaking before the commission next week monday, and i hope that they will join me in delivering the messages. i do not have their phone numbers, so hopefully, they will get this information. i also wanted to say that

though mrs. mirkarimi is in venezuela on a personal matter regarding her dad that the board of supervisors will summon heard to speak via satellite. because there's only two witnesses to what occurred december 24, 2011. that is her version and ross mirkarimi. equitable justice is really important, and i hope you will remember that. i will be back when you all will meet -- [bell rings] supervisor chiu: thank you very much.

excuse me, you need to speak up into the microphone if you are speaking for public comment. so if we could hear from our next speaker please. >> having a year. overhead, please. exactly four years ago today -- does this is home any more? i guess not. i started attending the planning commission. they were doing the last year of a seven-year plan called the eastern neighborhoods, and what i decided -- i made a judgment call after living in my neighborhood and my apartment for 19 years, i made a judgment call when i decided that i did

not want to happen in my neighborhood what was happening with the eastern neighborhood plan. we got nowhere because the eastern neighborhood plan decided what i was asking for was part of the environmental act, and that was the environmental act of the section of the bill, and that have been finished the year before. we went to the land use commission, and there, one of the supervisors decided that it would be good to catch the noise instead of at an apartment but containing it at the source. then what happened was a great orchestrator said we would abide by what happens while tom ammiano was pushing a bill, and four of us in this room heard

him say it in the corner of the room that this was just the beginning of the conversation about noise. i still hold to my judgment call that this judgment is still better for the city then what is going on. it will not cost the city anything, and it increases the quality of life, and it makes the whole city and even player. hopefully i will be back. thank you. supervisor chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. executive director of library users association. i certainly wanted to second the previous speakers -- some of the previous speakers, but particularly ray hart. it seems as though the

supervisors and the city seemed to be continuing in an unfortunate tradition of literally calling the cops on critics. the rest of my comments, i would like to address toward the bernal heights library branch miro. last week, i reported that the sunshine task force had ruled in favor of library uses association unanimously on a number of cases, including one concerning supervisor david campos' violating open government laws by redacting contact information and providing information late. we requested his bernal heights branch library mural file, and he responded unlawfully late, and also, more importantly, unlawfully redacted information from the file. there is some good news with respect to that mural as well,

which i'm glad to report, and that is that the current edition, april 12, 2012, has a nice spread on page 8, with respect to -- it is called painting over neighbor heard history, and it has some nice historic pictures -- overhead, please. it has some nice pictures inside of the existing merrill -- mural when it was young and fresh and the existing mural as it unfortunately is now. do not know what is going on with the light, but -- also text. [bell rings] supervisor chiu: and you very much. next speaker.

>> good afternoon. the president of united states of america, president of the united states of america, only contact people in compromising with the presidential politicking good afternoon of the standard of regulations and laws in jesus christ, i ain't got beat the devil and god -- but the main thing is -- see, the thing is, the regulations of a good board to help schools out and would help mental illness people, and physical education is good, so keep that in schools. recycling is good. basically, just have a good world. thank you. supervisor chiu: thank you very

much. next speaker. >> nice note to and on. i just wanted to speak briefly in regards to the comments that an individual made earlier about the board taking opinions on public or international affairs. i just want to appreciate the board for always taking courageous stands on things that happen on the state level or national level or international level the impact our very international city, and those other issues that we care about very much. thank you. supervisor chiu: are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in general public, it? seeing none, general public comment is closed. good to go to the general accounting calendar. >> items 24 through 27 are considered for immediate adoption. these items will be acted upon by a single roll call vote unless a number of the public

request an item be separated. supervisor chu: 25. supervisor chiu: if we could take a roll-call vote on the balance. supervisor campos: aye. supervisor chiu: aye. supervisor chu: aye. supervisor cohen: aye. supervisor elsbernd: aye. supervisor farrell: aye. supervisor kim: aye. supervisor mar: aye. supervisor wiener: aye. supervisor avalos: aye. >> there are 10 aye.s supervisor chiu: those resolutions are adopted. >> and 25 is a resolution approving the community needs assessment developed by the department of children, youth, and families. supervisor chu: we just need to change the title to substitute the title with children's services allocations fun. i move that amendment and ask for the item to be continued for

one week. supervisor chiu: the motion has been i'm -- seconded by -- second. today the motion -- if we could take the motion that discussion? that will be the case. if we could continue it to april 24 without objection. that shall be the case. madam clerk, could you read the in memoriams? >> today's meeting will be adjourned on behalf of the following 11 individual, the late ms. delores marie voss. supervisor chiu: is there any more business in front of this body? >> that concludes our business. supervisor chiu: ladies and gentlemen, we are adjourned.

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chair: can we please stand for the pledge of allegiance? >> one nation, under all. secretary: mr. chiaarair, i will call the roll call. [reading roll] mr. president, you have a quorum.

chair mazzucco: good evening. chief sur had to go somewhere else tonight, so before we call the calendar, i have to tell you that there has been some conversation with the cheap and the member of the city attorney's office, so we're going to remove from our jenna line item 3a, which is the presentation of the first- quarter findings and recommendations and presentation of officer-involved investigative summaries, and likewise, and similarly situated, line item number 5, a discussion to adopt the general order firearms discharge review board, which is an action item, that is a very important item, and the chief really wanted to be present for this item, so he asked that we do this, so with that in mind, we are going to but that over until another week

so the chief can be for that. can we please proceed to item number one? secretary: line item number one, the consent calendar. the police will report on the disciplinary actions in the first quarter 2012, for the first quarter status report on the general orders and policy. president mazzucco: thank you. in your packet is the disciplinary actions for the first quarter of 2012. i would just a note for the record that there were three cases. one case was sustained with a significant punishment and penalty for a patrol specialist. there was a motion to dismiss granted on a failure to meet statute of limitations, and there was one case where the officer-involved -- the officer involved retired with charges pending. and then we have the first- quarter status report on general orders and policy.

commissioners, have you had a chance to look at that? and are there any comments? hearing none, is there a motion? we will hold public comment, but if we can have a motion first? any public comment regarding these items? hearing none, public, it is now closed. commissioner i move that we adopt the report. president mazzucco: that item is closed. please call line item number two, mr. monroe. . monroe: the speakers shall address their remarks to the whole and not to individual individuals or the personnel. during public comment, personnel

or the commissioners are not required to respond. individual commissioners and police and personnel should refrain however from entering into any debates, discussions during public comment. please limit your comments to 3 minutes. president mazzucco: good evening. any public comment? >> good evening. long time to see. i can follow-up with inspector monroe later on on this question, but our actual officers, actual officers, are they committed to public endorsements of candidates in elections? that is my question. i was informed by an inspector that she did not feel that was the case. i know at least one, badge number 689, who does so on a regular basis. is it legal or not and within the rules and regulations?

if he knows, he can tell me now, and that would be awesome. this leads me to my second point. it has now been, but we can, i believe it has been 20 months since you received the comptroller's report from august 2010 telling you that they are in a lawless outfit and a liability for the city on an ongoing, increasing, and regular basis. do not say you have not had notice. you have had plenty of notice of the shenanigans and wars that they are engaged in, especially out in the caster. for example, there is a lawsuit. chief suhr is not here. but he is named in the decision from the court repeatedly, and in that decision, where the city and county patrol -- prevailed over what you try to be a patrol special under the guise of being a friend of warner, even though he is a convicted child molester among others things, in

that case, in detail the extent of the patrol special willingness or lack thereof to follow the rules and regulations and a lot of the city, state, and country. this leads me to my second point, which is you have known since that case in 2009, and you were made again aware of it in the 2010 report, and i have been coming to your meetings for over one year now and have been making you evidently aware of their shenanigans and their behavior in the castro, and you have done nothing. the lieutenant behind me was here to tell you that an owner had illegally operated for we do not know how long, but for quite awhile, and continues to do so. in november, there was talk of holding him and others accountable on to one of your members decided that needed to be referred for discussion for 30 to 45 days. it has now been six months since that referral and nothing has been done. i do not know what rules are

being followed. they do not follow the rules. you do not enforce the rules, and somehow, the rules are deemed unworkable. i wonder how that happens. president mazzucco: next speaker. >> started a little early, but i will take it. commissioners and acting police chief, good evening. thank you for letting me speak. very briefly, i have a couple of items for you, related to a policeman that was hired to investigate tax and drivers in san francisco. that was bounced off of the oakland police force. working out for the mta, and i do not know what role the police commission plays in that, but a lot of drivers are very concerned because this man was investigated and put in jail for

felonies, and he was hired by san francisco. the felonies were drugs, weapons, and pretending he was the fbi at one time. i want to give you the full report. i have seven copies here that you can look over and talk to the mayor about. the mayor has a copy. the board of supervisors has a copy. the mta got a copy. i am not a point to mention his name at this time. two, last year, i gave ms. kingsley a list of things that this commission could do to help the attendance. i do not think they paid any attention to it. i have never seen one article or one advertisement in any newspaper to advertise the police commission hearings going on and giving locations, so i brought you a copy of one of the

muni advertisements that the posted that runs in 5 to 18 newspapers in this city, the local and the "san francisco examiner," when they have meetings. that drop members from across the city who would like to speak at these meetings. i have copies of those for you. also, one of the example is one that ran this given advertisement, and last is this. we have talked about this from time to time. san francisco has 1000 unsolved murders. it also has a murder rate that is declining in the city, but it is not as low as new york city's. i have heard no attempts by this commission in any area on how you are going to attempt to solve those murders when you

have a police department down probably 50% in terms of the number of detectives. i would like to hear more on what you are attending to for 2012 to solve these unsolved murders which go back to the 1940's and 1930's. i thank you for your time. these are the copies also. president mazzucco: good evening, clyde. >> good evening. if you go to the website, sfpd, the agenda, email address, everything is there, and it is updated weekly by these people. in reference to the tax issue, you are correct. we had a police officer that was getting kickbacks past taxi driver license permits. he was charged with a crime. i do not know the end result of that. on a few positive notes, chief

cuhr, i have to give him credit. there is so much going on, i cannot keep up with it. his openness about the tenderloin police officer involved in a case in the tenderloin, he did not hide it. he put it out there and said, "this is the way it is." he is suspended without pay. party over, buddy. a front-page article on the cell phones being stolen. i see that everyday. i talked to one lady, "put it away. you are on church street." i did not know. but now, as you know, the fcc has joined forces with the cell phone companies, and now they will have a database. if you lose your cell phone, he reported, somebody steals it, they cannot reactivated, so there goes that market. that game is over with. that game is over with.

also, i am still, like i said, i cover something like six different police departments, new york, san francisco, and boston, and someone says about the crime, the murder rates, i do not see a lot getting involved. we all complain. joe got killed down in the baby. i saw it, but i am not going to the police. oh, mary jane got murdered in the bayview or whatever. the police are not doing their job. well, when was the last time you talked to a detective? i do not want to get involved. shut up then. have a nice evening. president mazzucco: thank you. any further comment? >> as commissioner chan knows, i am here to represent ammaniano,

but i am here not on that. regarding the pedestrian deaths at the intersection of market and castro, i myself am a cyclist and wanted to bring to your attention an issue i recently encountered on my own. about one month ago, i was hit by a car in front of my house on hayes street. epically, there was a witness to the accident. she stopped. i needed medical attention but not an emergency. i went down to st. mary's. from st. mary's, i walked to park station to file a police report. i was denied and told i could not file a police report, because it was not support a policy to allow me to file a police report regarding the accident because i did not call 911 at the scene of the accident. i was in no state to argue, though i tried. i went back two days later. there was another officer at the desk, park station again. i was again refused to the

ability to file a police report for an accident that happened in front of my house. it took eight third try with this memo from chief fong with an attorney to finally be able to file a police report regarding the accident. now, i bring this issue up to you because there has been talk of increased enforcement four cyclists, and there is a new push in the media about having increased enforcement. i work in government. if someone like me, it takes three times, including finally bringing a lawyer and a copy of the department's general orders to finally be able to file a police report, i can all imagine what would happen if this cyclist not familiar with local government, not familiar with what department general orders are, and not familiar with how the sfpd is supposed to work in terms of policies, then i