now as it is. $30 a month is too much. i have been trying to get that reduced since i have become a member of this board. i will continue to do that. we have to find money. i have heard from last week since we last met. i have heard from many of my colleagues. many of my friends in the other areas, free muni, free for all youth will not work. we tried it many times and it does not work. i am one that says because it did not work before does not mean that it will not worked. we have to find a way to do it.

i will tell you this. you have got my word as well as all of our board that we will go on record as supporting free muni for all youth in the city and county of san francisco. we have to make that happen and we cannot wait two years. i totally agree with director bridges. we cannot afford to wait two years to make this happen. we have to make sure that this program is going to work. and the other thing that is important that i heard supervisor campos say, make it easy, make it easy to access for all people. i do not like [unintelligible]

either. if i do not like filling out forms, i know that particularly if you are not a native english speaker, it is hard. it is almost impossible. to fill out the forms -- is almost impossible to fill out the forms in a timely manner without assistance. i look at what's is it going to cost as administratively to do the paperwork -- what is it going to cost us administratively to do the paperwork? so that everyone who needs the program is getting it. i do not want extra paperwork to be foldout. -- filled out. let's do it in the most paperless, everyone is going

paperless. let's make this program paperless. the final thing i would say it is congratulations to all the youth in this city that impacted our decision today and in the future. believe me, we have heard you. thank you. vice president brinkman: thank you, chairman nolan. i will echo what my colleagues have said and i think it is important that we make this easily accessible, that we have the burden of paperwork as low as we possibly can so that we catch the students and families that we want to catch. having said that, i think -- i will say i support the staff proposal for low-income free

muni for use and i will make a motion to that. i want to again thank everyone involved because you taught us a lot of things we did not know. especially those of us on this board to do not have children in the san francisco school district system. i did not realize there was such a crunch on a lot of the families, so i appreciate you showing us that. i did not realize there's no money available for field trips for kids. i think director heinicke mention his kids or class gets one trip a day. i wonder if there was is that sit unused and kids would love to go on field trips we could work towards. someone in city hall brought that we do not have a good sense of where the kids are moving in the city. the gentleman brought up the fact that we do not have neighborhood schools any more so kids are going all over the city. i do not think the school district or the city has an idea or plan or a map of what

kids move where. there always will be children who are too young to travel on muni by themselves and their parents are going with them to school and on to work or their driving them because it is easier to do. i think it would be -- benefit the entire agency and the school district to do a study and figure out where the kids are going and maybe there are some synergies we can work out. thank you very much and you have -- you did teach us a lot. i wish that you will have that as well. i think moving toward free muni for low-income youth is a good idea. i will make a motion to support the staff recommendation. >> is there a second? the motion is seconded. before we do that, i would like to propose an amendment that encapsulates the sense of the

board about going forward and that is relative to free muni for all youth. this is the language i have proposed. where's the board of directors has been impressed by the compelling case for providing any services for free for low income youth, the board recognizes the merit pursuing the goals of being able to provide service free to all youth as a way of getting young people into the muni system and a step toward broadening the appeal of muni for all, creating a lifelong commitment to the transit first policy. therefore be it resolved that the sfmta board supports exploring new revenue options and supports broadening the base of those eligible for services and further that the board direct staff to pursue all possible revenue streams that do not negatively impact the overall service delivery system of sfmta and be a further resolve the staff is directed to report back to the board on such prospects in a timely fashion with a clear intent of implementing the program for all

youth. at any time should those revenues be found for that purpose and be of further resolved that the director of transportation begin the process of dealing with the larger issue of their equity drop the system and present a proposal for the board's consideration for the next budget or sooner if practical. is there a second? >> i will second. let's talk about that amendment and see if we have support. >> does that encapsulate the intent of the agency to move forward to direct staff? >> i am happy to support that amendment. i would note that i do not think we need to write this in. at least to me, one of the important things to consider is we are doing this as a service impact and your managemall leakn the financial implications which is great. we need to have feedback from our transit professionals about the what -- about what the service impact is. >> as you mentioned, the

income level we're aiming at and where we get there -- how we get there. >> to get back to that, i see as what we're doing under the proposal that has been moved and seconded is endorsing free muni for low income youth today. directing your staff to create an administrative proposal to implement that, hopefully hearing some of the direction we have given on that. as a third thing here, creating your men and that dictates what we will do in the future. >> -- your amendment and that dictates what we will do in the future. commissioner bridges: also identify that threshold for low income, that will be crucial. president nolan: i could put that in there somehow. >> i think we have given the

staff clear direction, it is there to look at that. >> if this passes and the whole thing passes, we can talk to mr. reiskin. such as the simplicity and outreac >>h. >> i think we have. you're a big task type of guy. >> anything else on the amendment i proposed? >> we will talk about the threshold. >> the idea if this passes, the overall direction is there and we will talk about individual directives. with that understood come on the motion of the amendment, is there -- is there a second?

a motion and second. all in favor, said aye. state -- say aye. is there any further discussion? we have a motion and second. all in favor, aye. the ayes have it. >> some of the items mentioned are the threshold, simplicity, outreach to make this happen. other comments that members have that we want mr. reiskin to come back with? >> if i may. we did previously modified the staff report to provide the flexibility to look at different income thresholds, that was feedback we got from some of the proponents and from supervisor campos's office that may be that

free lunch threshold is too low. we have a suggestion of 125% -- 120% of area median income. we made sure the wording of the resolution provided us the latitude to not be locked into that lower-level. we will absolutely be looking at that. the making it easy and simplicity is something that we have a great incentive to do that as well. we have been talking to the school district about that. we do recognize the need to reach other schools. not just school districts but other schools and we will have to work with and through cpo's because not all our youth are in school. we will have other outlets by which we can do this. in terms of the charge to seek alternative funds to develop a plan to look at the fare structure in terms of equity

more generally, that is something that i have noted as well. finally, to come back in six months or so and report on both preliminarily how the pilot is rolling out as well as what progress we're making in these other areas, that is a great idea. one thing we have had strong commitment from supervisor campos and the advocates for is our rigorous evaluation program of this pilot. there are a lot of goals that we have all established for the pilot. there are impacts positive -- impacts, positive and negative that we want to monitor closely and we are fully committed to working with the supervisors' office and the school district to make sure we have good information, good feedback that we can adjust as needed to make it work better. but we provide that information to you and the public. those are the highlights of the notes i have. >> any comments on that? thank you.

commissioner ramos: i do also want to make sure that we're clear that we make this pass available to low income youth to happen to be over the age of 17 but still in high school. because they turned 18 earlier, what have you. is that going to be a problem? >> i do not believe we have a way to do that right now. it is something we can look in. the youth ther -- fare is the sense it. you go up to 17, that is structured within the past pass. it is a hard wired arrangement where your birthday is tied to that pass so you are eligible for it. up to the last day of the day before your -- your 18th birthday. i cannot commit to that now.

i can add it on the list to what we should be looking at as we go forward. >> the threshold, when we start talking about 100% -- 120% ami, i am looking at the office of housing. that office issuing 120% for a family of four is roughly around $123,000 per year. i think that represents a moderate income. it is a working families kind of approach. i do not know that we can go that high. i certainly would like to go in a direction like that to include moderate income families. as high as we can go and not be disqualified from the lifeline funder, the climate fund. >> a question raised in one of the town hall meetings that was raised here this afternoon by one of the speakers was when the

kid goes from 17 to the next day, that will be something we need to plan for. we also had one person spoke at one of the town hall meetings about water -- what if you are a city college student? there are questions and that is why it is a pilot. i think it could be a big issue when the end of this comes and people turn 18 to go from nothing to that. we need to figure that out. we have time to think about this. thank you for your suggestions. commissioner oka: i would like to say that if we can possibly look at the lifeline pass for the community, [unintelligible]

a $30 pass. we need to look at that and lower that. i do not think it is -- i was told a couple of years ago and i will not mention who told me this, but we are trying to [unintelligible] youth and that is why we are raising you guys to the lifeline. that is not the way we do things here. we are much more humane than that, i hope. lifeline, $30 is too high for most low income people who use the program, we need to lower that and we need to lower that significantly. we need to find money to do

that. and we need to have that on the table the next cycle. >> thank you. with that, >> certifying the budget is adequate to make substantial progress for approving various fees and fines. amending the transportation code to reflect this [unintelligible] changes, waiving fares on new year's eve for fiscal 2013 and 2014, authorizing the director to implement short-term experimental fares with controller certification for various contracts offering -- authorizing the director to make necessary corrections and allocating revenues and-or revenues that the director shall

return for approval that in aggregate exceed 5% increase in the total budget. >> thank you. the last time the board met, there was a detailed presentation on the budget following four or five town hall meetings. the board did not act on it that day. two weeks ago. because we were waiting to see what we would do with the free muni for all youth, there would have been significant changes in the budget required. they're not. >> what is before you today is substantively the same budget that was before you two weeks ago. there were a couple of minor things i had mentioned verbally at the last meeting that have been incorporated into the legislation. but you have is substantively the same. this is a proposed balanced

operating budget for the next two years that significantly advances the board adopted strategic plan, particularly with a significant investment in the maintenance of our system and the safety of our system and other things that i think are fairly consistent with the city's transit first policy. >> we have had a presentation and two weeks ago, the vice chair close to meeting with the recognition for the interest -- will hear it from the public the same as we did from the other issues. do members have anything to say? >> i will read several names as -- at once. the first three speakers. karen olivetto, david brown, and

others. >> as pastor of one of the largest churches in san francisco which requires double parking to accommodate parishioners, including sunday parking enforcement proposed in the budget would be a logistical nightmare and have a devastating affect not only on our celebrations but the capacity to provide needed services to the most vulnerable and marginal in the city. if we have to worry the entire -- it is hard to imagine this city without the undergirding of joy that glide brings to it. participants are moved to volunteer in our programs. without their help, the aid we give others would be greatly diminished. our meals program would be

hampered by a decrease in potential volunteers do to send a parking meter enforcement. glide is not the only church to be affected. it would cause a spiritual breached that would be felt across the city. their training grounds for civility and relationships. they provide centers of care and compassion for those in need. religious communities provide a home where people can know and be known. i urge that you remove the sunday parking meter enforcement from the budget. chair nolan: thank you very much. clucks my name is david brown. i am a pastor at -- >> my name is david brown. i am speaking against the parking meter -- the enforcement of parking meters on sunday. when our church moved from union

square in 1902, we chose not to buy land or parking lots and to rely solely on the use of on street parking. many in our congregation use public transportation, as for many, that is not a viable option. calgary would definitely experience a negative impact should this proposal goes forward as currently drafted. the quality of life for many of our members would be diminished. chair nolan: next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. i am a member of congregation emanu-el. i ask you to rethink the

proposal to activate parking meters on sunday. such an action will affect sunday services and make it more difficult, if not impossible, to worship and participate in services. why am i concerned? it does not affect the synagogue or me, why should i care? i care for two reasons. it affects people in the city. they are my neighbors, colleagues, and france. such an action opens the door to other discriminatory proposals. when one group is affected, it is easy to regulate something which demonstrates -- discriminates against other groups. we're all proud of the diversity that makes san francisco a special place. this action puts that diversity in peril. read the first amendment to the constitution of the united states. do not take this action am.

-- action. [applause] >> my name is michael. i'm the executive director of the san francisco interfaith council. i am your to voice opposition to this initiative to institute commuter parking on sundays. it is a violation of due process. the board's failure to invite a single leader to its meetings was an egregious infraction. dusting off an ill-conceived idea that failed to successfully been passed deliberations and giving no voice to those directly impacted was wrong. for the record, the majority of congregations impacted by this proposed action are located in some of the most economically challenged neighborhoods in the city. these are the very congregations are providing support services when the city cannot.

the sfmta action will place another obstacle in congregations already challenged. but christ congregations will pay for the sfmta plan -- the price congregations will pay will be devastating. it is easy to take aim at those who do not have the voice to defend themselves. this was a flawed process. this is bad policy. i urge the sfmta to go back to the drawing board and come up with another way to solve its budget shortfall. [applause] >> matt d. henderson. -- maggie henderson. >> i am representing the muslim community of the city of san francisco. as a muslim, i believed the question should not -- should not be penalized for going to

the church and having to pay for metered parking. we have to help out each other. we always stand up for each other. thank you. >> good afternoon. old first presbyterian church. i am one of the few places where i have a parking lot, but this is not an issue for me. but my brothers and sisters do not have access to that. it will cause chaos. people need to be spiritually fed and we take care of neighborhoods and people. you are not going to make this much money from it. why don't you have grace on sundays? [applause]

>> i am the pastor of the mount zion church of san francisco. i am here in opposition of the parking meters been activated at such times. there are currently around parking meters are run by church because we are adjacent to the dmv. i stand before you to say that the time in which you are indicating 12:00 to 3:00 is in the middle of our worship service. that would cause people to get up to go out and feed parking meters, interrupting her services. san francisco already is presenting itself as a non- family friendly city. discouraging people to come to church, not having a place to park, or having to pay for parking, would discourage them from further worshiping with our congregation.

that would impact our current congregation severely. we are already struggling as a day is. we urge you not to pursue. >> good afternoon. i am rev. robert lucas. i am president of the san francisco baptist ministers' conference. speaking for those pastors in the city, we are struggling as it is now to try to reach people for christ. any impediment that is wrong in our way it makes our task a monumental difficulty. to initiate a parking fee on sunday, when we are trying to

get people focused on their souls and focused on trying to deal with the challenges of their life, it is a monumental and sold to the church. i think it is something that you need to look at and reconsidered because the one organization that tries to get people to do good in the city is the church. when you do things that inhibit us from being able to carry out that charge, it is a detriment to san francisco. i love this city. i want to see this city prospered. this is something that will not help this city move forward. i encourage you not to go forward. [applause] >> [reading names] >> good afternoo