they were very similar. in the first letter, they talked about one antenna. in the second letter, they talked about two antennas. i think there are discrepancies in what happened between conversations between agencies. discrepancies that are valid not to revoke the permit. thank you. >> aside from the scientific value, i have a middle school down the way and kids go buy it every day. i would like to see that out of the way, more high -- higher and more discreet. >> thank you.

any rebuttal? >> the white house, a couple of times. that is out of our control -- the height has, up a couple of times. that is out of our control. we do not have any flexibility over that because pg an &e has a standard meter. regarding the aesthetics and the underground, that is a longer conversation. in general, you look at what is going on in the neighborhood. this neighborhood is not an underground area. there is equipment, when you are evaluating the impact, you look at the facility. planning has approved a much larger facilities than desperate we have much larger facilities throughout the country.

-- planning has approved a much larger facility. we have much larger facilities to allow the country. sometimes it can be smaller, but for this technology, it needs to be in a box of this size. that is one of the more -- is one of the smaller ones out there. it is only 2 inches wider than it would be to be a tier one. president garcia: what is the meter that is 6 feet 8 inches off the ground metering? >> a that is pg &e's meter. that is their standard. it is me during the power. president garcia: of? >> of the pit -- of the equipment on the pole.

president garcia: that is how they built you? -- bill you? >> if you look at any of the utility poles with the comcast battery supply, you will see the meter at 7 6. all the comcast meters are at 7 feet 6 inches as well. president garcia: comcast meters. >> if the box is separate -- is on a separate bracket, we could. when we put the box is higher, that was interfering with second story of views. we kept them lower in order to not interfere with second story of views.

>> the internet itself, is there are recent there cannot just be one -- and the antenna itself, is there a reason there cannot just be one antenna? >> in order to get the coverage, there has to be two of them. there are other locations that only have one, but you have to try to meet the demand so it can pick up the signals from a certain area. it is not particularly large. the antenna is put in itself -- is put into a round shroud. fairmount to gather at the top -- and there are mounted together at the top. this was the intended that was needed. we looked at a lot of other ones and they were a lot taller. these were the smallest available about -- available. >> would you put this -- would

planning approved this? >> planning has approved this configuration on many good an excellent view streets. this was part of our building out of the network. i think we have about 20 of these configurations are around the city. they have all been approved by planning with the exact same configurations. thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. the comment from the applicant -- i mean, the appellant. as it relates to as fedex. they can be addressed in this -- as the relates to esthetics. they can be addressed in the future. planning will need to evaluate

and make findings of this facility upon renewal. when they renew under article 25. planning might impose additional conditions. we do not know that at this point. moving forward, it is possible. as it relates to the confusion, it appears the letter dated august 25, 2010 refers to one antenna. at some point, between august to january, unchanged from one antenna to to antennas. -- a change from one antenna to two antennas. the second case was also appropriate. that is where the confusion lies.

right now, the permits were issued under administrative code. upon renewal, up one falls under article 25, there'll be additional reviews from the plant -- from the planning department given that it is in a residential zone. unless they change equipment, the health department has reviewed and determined that it is correct and appropriate. it has satisfied the fcc regulations. the department will go back and verify the height given the concerns of the appellant. that the appellant has expressed concerns of people hitting it by jumping. we will try to work to make sure we find a way to possibly move

it higher if that is the case. i am available to answer any questions. president garcia: it would seem like redwood is giving off that color. >> [inaudible] >> could be required -- could be required that they painted some color that would match? that is a lot to absorb all once. they have a low height on the base. something that is not yet painted. they have that natural look to the wood. bat is creating some of the problems having to do with aesthetics. is that possible to work and to some tort of -- some sort of

regulation? >> the department will require that they painted the equipmente color of the existing put to the best of their ability. we will verify that the requirement. right now, -- the permit was suspended, said they had to cease operations. that was one of the reasons they were not able to move forward. president garcia: thank you. >> commissioners, the matter is submitted. president garcia: something does seem a little unfair. i live in an area where all the facilities are underground. and i think there was a time

when, if you lived in an area that was and, if you got together with your neighbors, you could achieve that. i do not think that is being allowed right now. that seems a little bit unfair. i would agree that the esthetics are not great. it seems as though the department of public works is going to do what they can about that. i am sincerely confused as to why so many people who have backgrounds in sciences, pier and have thus think that perhaps week -- come up here and have us think they perhaps we do not know what their needs to be -- i cannot go out independently to determine that. i have to hope that fcc and dpw

-- i have to think that they are giving misinformation. having said all of that, i think you know where i am leading. i intend to uphold. >> i am troubled by the aesthetics and the fact that for some reason, we do not have underground in this neighborhood. we heap on more ugly utility or antennas. this street already has a lot of wires. i think we can do better on the antenna that is on top of a poll. -- pole. i would lean towards denying the

permit. >> i guess i did not see any basis for overturning the permit at this point. i certainly sympathize with the concerns regarding this fedex. i do not see any evidence -- esthetics. i do not see any evidence, and i've read some information in the past about these particular antennas. they go up all over the city. they have gone up in my neighborhood as well. i did not think there is any basis that conclusively shows

they are dangerous or that they are posing a risk to the public health. i think the process is going to be different going forward. there will be an opportunity for due process when this permit expires and has to be reapplied for. that will be the forum for this neighborhood and these appellants to bring these concerns into a due process hearing of some sort. i do not see any basis for overturning the permit at this point. >> i do not have a lot to add. i would echo the sympathetic position that we have. at this time, i do not think there was anything improper done in the issuance of the permit.

president garcia: i would move that we all pulled -- uphold and denied a permit because they are compliant with all codes and regulations having to do with installation. do you need more? >> we have a motion from the president to uphold this permit. president garcia says on the basis that this permit is compliant. president garcia: correct. >> on that motion --

the votes is pre-one. this permits is upheld on that basis. thank you. >> since item seven has been withdrawn, there is no further business. >> thank you, good night.

that supports requests. page 26 of your packet is the summary of how these requests. 27 through 30 gives free descriptions of the projects as

well as our recommendations. i will go through these projects very briefly. the girl substation a great project would provide the 20% matched to the construction fees, federal funds to repair the substation that was damaged by lightning in 2005. this is the power supply for the division deraa trolleybus line. new signal contracts 61 would fund the design phase for five new traffic signals and four new flashing beacons at four intersections. locations for the signals and beacons is on page 20 of your enclosure. you can see the location has proposed.

the memo describes the process for how nt and reprioritize to signal a patient. on page 23 of your packet, you can see the signals that are going to be improved -- a new signal that would be constructed as part of this current contract, as well as about 10 other locations that are currently being considered for new signal contracts 62. next project is a thermoplastic truck. this will allow the agency and mta to keep up with the growing demand for striping and street parking. there is a prop k request for a multi phase allocation for the 19th avenue accessible pedestrian signals. this will fund locations