of the time that someone actually get into a taxi as a result of that call. there are a lot of things happening in taxi services, but those are the highlights that touch on service. if you have any questions, i would be happy to address those. >> thank you. i know there was some work to try to make sure that there is some level of improved cab service around the west side, for example. i am wondering what effort has been made. it is a challenge. >> one of the approaches to that has been discussed in the context of the electronic application. at the last meeting i also expressed a desire to see more of -- the technology is there to

see the taxis in real time and to increase the ability of the taxi customer and the taxi driver to communicate among themselves. in order to visit would take those two parties coming together. one of the things we can do in the neighborhoods is to allow that application, whenever it is. we want to see this application one way or another. we are starting to engage the technology community whoever builds it, one of the features that could really help this situation is when the customers put in their credit-card information in their prepaid device so that the taxi driver will know that there is a person at the other end. one of the problems is that the

taxi driver does not have a lot of confidence that the customer will be there, and the customer does not have a lot of confidence that the tax he will arrive. these are two people that very much want to be together, but do not have the confidence to make that happen. if we can increase the confidence, it will help. gregg's -- >> right now, they do not take the -- it is not just a matter of where are all of my

taxis today. >> i appreciate the update. good to know that there's a lot of thinking about how to improve that dispatch system. one question that i have actually had has to do with the edge of the city where it is extremely hard to get cab service. and you have cabs right over the border with l.a. city. have we given any thought to partnering with delhi city? rex that is absolutely correct and we had a town hall meeting

-- >> that is absolutely correct and we had a town hall meeting on that subject. it is not always a popular thing among taxi drivers because no one likes increased competition. but even if the driver is going to be in that relatively remote location, economically, that is challenging. we need to talk about chairing that area with the daly city taxis. i think as long as we require electronic gps record keeping, then we can force the the up and drop-off locations. >> it seems like we have challenged the various aspects of getting a cab, but dispatch seems to be a particular problem. particularly during certain times of day or during the week. when we have services that enhance capacity, and we have an

eventual increase in the number of cabs. for example, whether it is working with daly city or over cabs or other regular services that use this dispatch, that is a productive thing. crags keep in mind with the southern part of the city, it is not -- >> keep in mind with the southern part of the city, am i correct that part of the city is strictly an economic equation?

to go out to that part of the city is a difficult economic choice. we need to figure out how to make it work with -- between the people and drivers. imports right, and that is why having an option, like the deadly city or other dispatch services, they are demonstrating that they are more flexible in where they will go. doing the airport running is the way to go for some people. the for some people, staying in the city is the way to go. having supplemental services is different. >> it is not a question of whether the driver is isolating themselves into the downtown area or isolating themselves into the airport. some of the best taxi drivers i know are actually willing to give up a little of their central revenue to pick up a

regular into one of the downtown neighborhoods. some of them will say that is just a little too long to make it worth our while. >> colleagues, any other comments? i have two public comment cards. if there is anyone else that would like to do public comment, please come on up.

>> poses an extremely dangerous threat. two taxi services in san francisco. up until now, they have been providing services through luxury vehicles and they charge a premium price compared to a taxi. they have a plan to flood the streets. people who have been to a meeting said that they have been talking about putting 1500 vehicles on the seats. these would be the kinds of vehicles that we use for taxis. they would charge a price that

would be about 20% higher than a taxi. they have made it very clear through statements that they see their market as the taxi market. the state has an open entry system for these kinds of vehicles. you cannot have a regulatory system through the city that controls the number of cabs and controls the industry for the purposes of safety and so forth in competition with an open entry system. it does not work. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i have been living in san francisco for 20 years.

i have been driving a cab for 23 years. supervisors, there is a demand for more taxi, but only at the peak times. the only times we should go forward adding more peak times. those medallions should only be issued to qualified drivers. if we don't get a cab in teh southern part of the city we will invite the city cab. if we don't get a cab in the marina, will you invite them to work here? that is not the answer. if you don't get a cab at the

airport, do you go to the peninsula? the only way to do it is lower the gate fee. it is very high in the city. they are very soon going to take over the city. you can put 1000 more cabas on the street. if people know that they can get a cab and the price is cheap, they will get a taxi cab. i think that is also wrong. i think my time is up.

>> thank you very much. are there any members of the public who wish to comment? may we close public comment? i want to thank you and members of the public to testify. it is true, if you have a regulated system and an open entry system those are two different system. competition can be perceived as unfair to those in the regulated system. the only reason that uber and similar services have been able to do well and get traction is because for so many years we have so dramatically restricted cab supply in the city is that people feel like they cannot get a cab. it is more expensive. i believe if we provide more cab

service and consistent enough cab service, there is no reason to take an alternative service. we have not done that. i am hoping we will move in that direction. our regulated cab system should be the dominant cab system in the city. if there are no other comments, i want to thank him for presenting today. i would like to continue this until the next quarterly report. >> let's do that without objection. thank you. is there any other business before us? thank you so much. meeting adjourned.

>> please call role. president newlin: aye. commissioner lee: aye.

commissioner tan: aye. commissioner hyde: aye. commissioner cavellini: aye. president newlin: aye. >> we have a quorum. gregg's members can address the commission brought to three minutes at the time that such item is called. if you want to talk about a commission-related item that is not on to my calendar, this is your opportunity to do so. ok, be that way. [laughter] see no one interested in making public comment, we will move down to item number two, will review and approve the minutes of april 24th, 2012. >> i move to approve. are we not on? >> i'm wondering, in the roll call, we are missing president

's named. gregg's he was probably at sen. gregg's it's as commissioners present. >> are you asking for a correction? >> yes. >> i will second with that correction. >> ok. commissioner -- commissioner lee: aye. vice chair joseph: aye. president newlin: i'm not sure which meeting i was at. cracked that is an approval then. -- >> that is an approval then. president newlin: item number 3. >> thank you. in a mood.

a couple of things to update the commission on under the heading of legislative policy. i think it is june 1st that the mayor's office put out their budget. commissioner chan -- tan. let the record reflect that he is present. the commissioners, we are understaffed, as you can tell. and we will be doing a lot of things at once. the majors -- mayor's budget came out as a two-year budget. and the entertainment commission's budget is part of the larger administrative services budget. if you look at the document on line, it is hard to find, but we have been relatively consistent, as you know. for the nine years that we have been in existence. this year, i did not request an enforcement position.

but that is among the mayor's many budget priorities. i want to update the commission on two pieces of robust legislation. -- on tour bust -- tour bus legislation. in one piece of legislation dealt with parking and citations. the second, which is a file dealing with amplified sound on tour buses. it creates a problem handled by the health department, and the police department, to monitor and regulate the buses operating in san francisco. i have the digest behind my memo, if your interested. we determined that the best place to regulate these with the health department. i think we lucked out. ab45 update, that is an assembly

bill that we have talked about numerous times related to party bosses. if you watch the news last night, you would have gotten an update that assembly man held -- assemblymanhill amended as of this year. i think is a substantial amendment as of the last time that i talked about this. it had pretty much died in sacramento, and now has got . -- has gotten amended. i attended a committee meeting the arts community meeting on the subject with a couple of commissioners -- >i attended a

committee meeting on the subject with a couple of commissioners. this may help the party bosses that we keep seeing. -- party buses that we keep seeing. as you know, last year i requested a chunk of change to use on-line in a bunch of ways. there have been using our online payment system for the last couple of months, which is so great because we do not have to deal with checks in the office or a cashier in the office anymore. it makes it so much easier for people to pay, in some cases, a very large amount of money with a credit card, which is what people are used to doing. many of the applications on the website now are smart .pdf's,

which is to say they are fallible pdf's that people can -- fillable .pdf's that people can fill out on line. we started with one-time permits. those can be done is right. we are still trying to perfect the two. as always, the payment is a different company than the .pdf. we just have to track them together. it is pretty much working. we are close to the online permitting 40 fixed-price permits. nicklaus is staying on top of this project and has had one meeting to train all of the

different departments who weigh in on this. we're talking about something where you submit on-line and everyone else gets a notification, the health department, the fire department, the billing department, and they can log in as well to this system and let us know whether there are corrections needed or whether they are complete. we are getting there. we are still testing and we will work with all of these agencies to get them on line. we will work with the police department as well to train access to it. but i am excited that this is coming together finally. it has been a long time. the promoter registry continues to self populate, which is obviously out is made. we are continuing to waiting for these promoters to come out from wherever you are and put themselves on mine.

for the public watching on tv, go to our website, the entertainment commission website. there is a promoter registry. it is free 24 hours. please, go ahead and get on there. the 2012 industry summit, which we have done annually, for the last five or six years has been scheduled for august 6th. i have gone ahead and invited three the mayor's office and the chief of police -- through the mayor's office and the chief of police as well as other advisers. hopefully, put that on your calendars as recreate the panels for the main session and the breakout groups as well. so we can talk about the most pressing issues for the end of the summer moving into the fall.

lastly, staff today received the resignation of commissioner cavellini. a couple of questions before we proceed? >> on august 6th, do we have a time of day? >> traditionally, we have done at 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m., because it is plain enough for people to would awaken on a monday and not to -- late enough for people to awaken on a monday and not too late to lose their attention. >> about this sound staff for the open air buses, it talks about the sound truck. don't we regulate the sound track? >> we do.

and i think this legislation will remove that. it will make a distinction and make sure that the sound track will not be a problem on the bus. >> i want to tell you that the progress with the one-stop shop is just great. and lastly, in the budget position that your request from the budget office and they turned us down, we clearly need it. we cannot do the whole city. that is just silly. is there a way to press either the board of supervisors, or is there some other way to pursue this position? >> there is a process that the board of supervisors has. if it is the commission's intention to have staff person that, i can request it. >> i would like you to pursue that. i do not suppose you can't hold

the commissioners -- can hold poll the commissioners and ask them that. everyone is shaking their heads yes. i do not think the audio recording can do a shake of that. gregg's if someone -- >> if someone is directed by the commission to pursue the board of supervisors, i would be happy to do that. >> that would be great. >> so directed. i have one question. promoters, registration -- how many so far? >> roughly 40, 50, something like that. it is not enough because we know the definition is fairly broad. >> we should get more if it is fairly broad. >> we should get more. i register, just so you know. >> to promote? oh. [laughter] >> i went on and try to register as a promoter and i got through

the first half and i have not been able to go back. because anyone who has the thought of throwing fund-raising parties and stuff like that as well. i do fund raising for a lot of community groups, but i cannot get into the second half. >> we have worked out a few wrinkles. i do not know why. why don't you call me and i will walk you through it. >> because maybe that is why there is only 40. >> i don't know. ok. >> commissioners, you will see behind the report from director king, my report is rather thin today. not too much to report. one of the things that director key and i have been working on it will get out hopefully this week. it is just another letter

working nights to hand to promoters or to club owners for promoter registration. we are trying to hit many different venues and promotion on this particular thing to promote the promoter registration. that is a lot of promoters. moving through my list, you will see that not too much is going on the last few weeks. i do not want to say it has been quiet, but it has definitely not been as busy as we usually expect for the beginning of june, which is good. just a few administrative tickets have been issued at the lounge and the make room. just a few violations. i will talk about 1131 mission room. very briefly, that was an permit -- and on permited venue that

had come to our -- a non- permitted many that had come to our attention. the city and the building were able to resolve that particular location very quickly. it was a good example of when you get the different city departments working together. if the we can kind of resolve -- we can kind of resolve issues fairly quickly. i know i do not have a in my face and they reopen sometime soon. we are working with the building apartment -- owner and with the tenant as well and it should no longer be an issue for the neighbors, which were having a hard time in the area. which is good news. there is not a lot to talk about here. i was just open it up to questions if any commissioner has a question. >> i do not have a question, but a suggestion. could we have the gates o