>> you were talking about statistics on violence, so for the most part we talk about homicides and how that changes over time, but how closely do you pay attention to personal crimes like property crimes and other things? in my district we have not just a large number of homicides, but we have seen increases of personal property crimes. >> obviously dr in a downward trend in violent crime. shootings are down this year about 17%. homicides are still down. we focus on property crime in day-to-day operations. property crimes are important because those are the ones that

most impact individuals. good as we hire more officers to the stations go back. everything was down 10% here with our first priority being violent crime, we have focused on problems. we have made some burglary addresrrests. we continue to work to get people in jail, but is an ongoing process. >> if you would be able to follow up, would be helpful. >> with regard to property crime, it is relatively flat this year, so our strategy to move it around and redeploy, we

just to redeploy some officers to a viewer -- to bayview. we have to be as efficient as we can. ghraib i will get to a slide that will let you understand how a fission we are trying to be. the next is how our funds are distributed by category. salaries are almost 90% of our budget. after that, and professional services and department services and charges. the general fund is 90% of our budget. the board of us for region -- board asks for a work order slide. everything after that pales by comparison.

community policing it is important. our community relations is as busy as in the in the country. we will try to get every station to get their own project. we have forums. hispanic forum, a lgbt forum, young adult forum, youth forum. our summer youth employment. we have been able to establish new internship superior -- new internships. we were able to hire 28 new intern's, and our major project,

which was taking kids out to give them positive opportunities and something to do in the summer. i cannot say enough about catherine. she is a saint. we are compiling several body cameras on a plainclothes supervisors. give we plan on buying 50 karos said will go on all plainclothes supervisors. good mobile devices to keep officers in the field. iwe are on the web-based platfom with search capability in real time. in order to keep the officers on

the field, we have identified a laptop computer that will be issued to officers. ithe first laptops was purchased with private dollars with no cost to the sedate. -- to the city. the 10-hour days, the industry standard for law enforcement, in the police department, since 1986 and went now patrols went to 10-hour days, they also had a 10-hour days. i ask the administrative officers to go to the 10-hour day. we are meeting to ask officers to go to the nine-hour day.

this will net 16,000 extra hours at no cost. officers will be shifted to night and weekend hours. some of them will be doing property crime of bateman. >> you talk about 300,000. -- property crime abatement. >> you talk about 300,000. >> 200,000 is from kuwait and the rest is an -- from general fund and the rest. $100,000 from the mayor's office and $200,000 from coyt. >> what does this mean in terms of operations?

>> if you consider that officers spend between 25% and 40% of their time going from desktop to computer, we can increase the efficiency of every officer that has one of these mobile officers. they would be able to book property or something like that. were they are available for assignment is pretty dramatic. >> i understand what that means. i am trying to understand what does that really get us very good return really get us. >> for every officer that would

give them a laptop computer it would be akin to saying 25% minimum. that would be $20,000 -- 20,000 hours more outside. >> how many officers as that of late? attacks i will put that in the slide for a new era good -- >> i will put that in the slide for you. >> when i look at your funding application for your patrol division, is that the division of the police force nisi in their cars or bikes or on foot patrol? >> right. of >> have you determined -- how do determine? i know they are coming up, but i know it is a priority that we want is many officers out in the neighborhoods as possible, and i am curious about how you make those determinations each year. >> there is a baseline staffing

, and i established what i thought was appropriate. since then, in an effort to be fair, some stations are better than others, so the pair has been rated the pain has been shared across the board, and we have officers who go to hot spots. the investigation has been decentralized. good officers taken from certain shift and put on the other shifts. the priority is to patrol. everybody else supports controls. the reason there has been this despite staffing is 1 officers come full duty, my agreement was if somebody wanted a 10-hour day, they would be released back

to patrol, so some folks who were enjoying the 10-hour day decided it was not worth networking 52 extra hours a day. good >> i appreciate you working on this commo, because i know ts a difficult issue. is that what would help impact an increase in your control? >> in the field, yes. and we are hiring an academy class. this goes back to reorganization. we used to have far more civilians. as the civilians went down we had to staff those positions, so officers stayed, and a staff these civilian positions triggered we have these

positions and -- the civilian positions. we have these positions, and someone has to do that work here again we can get them ready and get new recruits to get trained, and we can have them during desk work. good >> thank you for that answer. >> align that is a steady decline is if we have not gotten any classes, we are grateful to the mayor for his proposed plan, which is the black line but will reach us in june of 2018. the green line would have been if we compacted it all, we get

to full staffing faster commo, e lag less. we will go down another 100 officers by this time next year before we go down. it is a steady uptick after that. good can i ask where you sht happens with no costumes, is this only contemplating the number of officers who dropped, or does it include other officers? >> it is anticipating that and retirement. >> what is your assumption for additional retirements? attac>> drop is officially over. a traditional attrition rate was 60 to 80.

that was dropped by another 40 officers. once it has expired we will go back to the attrition rate that is two academy class those. we hold our own at exactly where they are. anything less would lose officers. anything more, we had officers to full staff. >> with regards to your average age of your force, is it higher or lower? would we expect the trend to continue? i just want to understand whether we expect retirement above and beyond to continue. >> i will look at that, but it is not so much the average age. now than we do not have an age requirement. all the officers you could not

be 35 years old. we have hired folks older than 50, so it does not necessarily go with age. it is age and time in service, so it is a little more calculus than you would imagine, but i could have that on the chance you would have me back next week. >> thank you. >> this is going back to the civilians. this goes back to speaking to the recivilianization program. our academy class of starts on monday will have 51. this would be 52 police officers that have already been identified that would go back on

patrol. if you look of the bar graph, in 1985 we had 450 civilians. the report of 2009 had recommendation of 456 civilians. we are now at 307, which is a low you would have to go back to 2005 before we are this low. gooto hundred officers and losig another 100 officers, it is going to allow us to put the

officers acted during the jobs they were hired -- officers doing the jobs for which they were hired. >> when would this be adopted? >> it is important to have these officers back on the street. we will be working on that. >> if we look at actual staffing levels for civilians, numbers of staffing of actual members in the police department has grown as well. the total in terms of actual

comparisons, we budgeted civilian staff that has grown to budgeted 340 position, so 80 civilians during that time. since we have been under a sustain hiring freeze, the number of actual civilian staff has increased to approximately 3124 comparable pain -- 312 for comparable pay. achievement and there was a

certification required in 2005 to -- the chief mention there was a certification required in 2005, but there has been a fair amount of attention paid to civilians, which has led to greater levels versus 2004, and we have reviewed additional positions in the budget and find that in most cases those are going to allow further civilization -- civilianization in the department. there is a formal process that allows for reduction in certification is met and certain conditions are met. that certification has not occurred by the police department, and i think the chief can speak to why that has been the case. i have more tables coming down

but we will provide in the tablet format before you. that is what we have found over the years. supervisor avalos: i have some follow-up. i know did you said 77 support positions were civilianized. in 2010, the comptroller's office identified an additional 251 positions that could be civilianized. 30 patrols and 212 in support functions. it is great to see the plan moving forward in the next two years, but how many have been civilianized since june of 2010 of the positions that were identified?

i do not know if that is for the comptroller or the chief. >> of those positions we have asked many times what are we talking about. are we talking about civilians dead would not be hired -- that would not be hired, or are we talking about positions that have traditionally always been done by a police officer, and now it does not require a person? >> i am not clear from the report. it did say these were additional positions. it did become clear they had been eliminated. >> if we compare the budget ending in 2010, there has been relatively modest change for the police department for civilian hiring during that time, which has been a challenging financial

time, so the department budgeted civilian positions, and that has grown to 340 for the current year, so there has been growth of approximately 10 positions, but the majority of the growth was in time before that before times got hard in 2008. those are budgeted and not an actual, so they are growing by 275 positions. we have seen growth during that time in the reports you are referencing. we have typically noted opportunities for civilian as asian -- civilian is asian -- civilianization.

it is a long-term goal we are talking about that cannot be accomplished in a single year, and it is true some of the hiring i am referencing tend not to hire civilian allows the department to push a folder the officer into the street. we have new functions of required new officers to meet new needs that have not been met by officers. >> a good example would bee it. they do a tremendous job and save us a ton of money in time spent. >> i know the comptroller > directs, and some physicians may be eliminated. it would be great to get an update. i am trying to grasp what 52 means, and there needs to be an agreement. i am sure there are positions

they may say we do not believe a civilian should be doing these duties. i am trying to get a sense. what does 52 mean? members have said they would like to see a strong commitment as we support more officers, so i am trying to get a sense of what proportion it means of this time? >> we have passed out of a brief memo that has some of the information you are looking for. table a represents summaries of various analyses we have done since 2004 that has not been previously added to the budget by the board of supervisors or the mayor. good so this is the cult standing

list. the majority of these cases that we have noted in the past have now been funded in the proposed budget the mayor has put before you. you can see we have done a reconciliation of basically the list. it lists all of the civilian opportunities, and if a line is in bold, it means it has been funded. we have noted where there is still an opportunity potentially to add an additional civilian to the budget. that would mean an analytical review we have conducted in prior years. the total of the bold lines sum to only about 10 additional positions. which does not mean there are not opportunities of above and beyond this. it is just that we have not previously reported on them or bomb them, but this represents how we have done compared to all of our past recommendations. >> again, a good example of this

would be comstat, which did not exist until chief gascon established it. uniformed police officers went into the administrative job. so now you are not really civilianizing conmstat because it was never civilians in the first place. then, the officers came -- in the judgment of the chief, it was something that had happened, and it was a priority, enough to take folks off the street. i would love to have civilians do all the analysis so i could have those 13 officers back to do police work. >> i guess i could say of course that there is a frame of reference question here that the chief is bringing up. generally, for the reviews we're talking about, we have focused

on the world as it existed in the year. the world as it existed last year had police officers performing these functions. the chiefs point is it did not exist five years ago, which is absolutely true, but it gets hard for us to perpetually reconcile back to a snapshot moment in time in 2004, so we continue to review the police department's operations in any given fiscal year and say where there are opportunities to add a civilian that allows a police officer to return to the street. >> every year, you try to identify positions with sfpd roughly, and this year, there were 65 identified. it looks like of those positions, over the next two years, we will see 52 of those. >> which is just over 50 in the two years funded now in the budget before you. which would, as you see on the chart on the last page, which kind of shows you a summary

graphical depiction of progress we have made during this decade. you can see that in the last few years, we see an uptick again. the budget before you would provide more significant progress towards civilian ization. supervisor chu: thank you. so then on the previous slide, the black line with the academy class is -- does that line also include page 52 officers that made the return back to -- >> they are already included. they would be in there on any line because they are already sworn police officers. >> my last question -- i know that one of the other suggestions from the controller 's report from 2010 was establishing criteria on how to decide when to use sworn or when to use civilians, and they use

examples of documented questions or criteria that ontario, new york city, kansas city, dallas had documented. i was curious as to whether we were also creating a similar type of criteria so that every year, we could kind of do this the same way. >> i am happen to have the conversation with mr. rose. another thing we spoke to in sidebar meetings is the fact that since the 1971 mandate was established, we have added a police station that is a 100 officers. we added comstat. we added treasure island. we are going to add hunters point shipyard. we have a ball park downtown. the southern district has been more developed here the population of the city is higher, so perhaps the way to start would be to find where the site is. i would be oneo