would not be 1971 based on what of a the was based on when they settled at that number because the city and responsibilities to the police the poorman have been dramatically changed since then -. supervisor chu: since fiscal year 2010-2011 and this past fiscal year, how many positions have you civilianized? them civilian >> civi -- >> civilianized or re- civilianized? supervisor chu: there were some hiring freezes, so maybe none took place. i was curious if any happened in the last two fiscal years. >> right, looking for a moment at actuals, we go from 277

actual non-sworn personnel in 2009-it doesn't tend to 283 in 2010-2011, to 312 in the fiscal year we're just ending. there has been some hiring during this time, and it does not mean these were all too civilianize a swan position, but it gives you a sense of we have been increasing our civilian staffing levels. >> and some of the officers who elected to be deployed to the street -- 27 in fact just from the scheduling changes -- many would then be replaced by some of these 52 rehire. supervisor chu: thank you. supervisor wiener. supervisor avalos: i will make

my questions after the presentation. supervisor wiener: first of all, i just want to compliment on your leadership. a lot of us are really pleased with the direction of the apartment, and the academy classes are very exciting as well. we do not want to go in the direction of some of the departments in terms of losing staff. it has a major ripple effect. i am also pleased to hear the progress in terms of civilianization, which i think is critical. i have a question about officers on some sort of desk duty because of discipline. i know that when former chief gascon came in, one of his priorities was clearing the discipline backlog said the we did not have good officers who, whether they were going to be exonerated, or had a suspension, to be done with it and get them back on the street.

is there continued progress? >> yes. first, thank you for your support, supervisor. much appreciated. the other is i completely agree with chief gascon. when he came in, there were 66 discipline cases pending. what i took over, there were 40. there are now less than 10. the turnaround time for captains investigations was 45 days. it is now 15. it is all towards dispensing the discipline, correcting any conduct that needs correcting, and getting the officer's back out on the street. some of the officers are subject to investigations by agencies outside the police department, for which i have no control, so those are sitting a little longer and are not subject to the expedited processes that have been put in place. i have to give credit to the police commission that came up with pretrial hearings.

anyway, so we are expediting the process. there are not anywhere near as many cases hanging. they are turning them over fast, and i think that is the best way to do it. supervisor wiener: another question relates to cost recovery. i asked about this last year. i cannot remember if you were in debt during the last budget process. about the department cozy relationship with entertainment nightlife world -- the department's relationship with the entertainment/nightlife world, which, as you know, is a priority for me, having good night life and entertainment in the city. it is part of the cultural life

blood of the city. we also -- i did an economic impact report that was released earlier this year that shows it contributes $4.2 billion to the economy. about 50,000 jobs. $55 million in taxes. i know you personally are a big supporter of vibrant nightlife. we have also seen a little bit of an inconsistency within the department. this is not a criticism of and a one -- of anyone. different folks in the department at different levels have different views on the subject. there are two things that have been a concern to me. one is i think sometimes we see problem areas, and you end up seeing the response sometimes percolates in other parts of the city. a similar attitude even though you do not have the same issues. so we see in the consistency in

liquor license responses by district captains. you and i have spoken about that. which really can undermine good businesses. the other aspect has to do with street fairs. i know the department will typically imposed some sort of security requirements, often requiring the even to pay -- the event to pay for security, which can potentially tripped a street fair in to not being viable anymore. those are incredibly important. if you could maybe comment on where the department is. >> again, always have appreciated working with you. the driver on all these things is alcohol. when people felt it was unfair -- there is now an alcohol liaison unit, which is a central clearing house for all permits so that we can have consistency.

if they see something that is inconsistent, they will call it to the attention of their boss, and we make sure that we have a level playing field. with regard to the street parties or street fairs or whatever, again, alcohol is the driver. we really i've ever have problems with any street fair where alcohol is not present. the discussion circles around how much alcohol will be there. will there be - present? what is the mechanism by which to make sure miners are excluded from the consumption of alcohol -- by which to make sure minors are excluded? that is why we have the alcohol liaison unit so that we can have fairness across the board, and like you say, i am a big believer in anything that generates $4.2 billion in the city, let alone the fact that it is a lot of fun. i involve myself as the appellate body whenever somebody come up and dissipate. supervisor wiener: i appreciate

that, and i would encourage you to be involved because again, i think there is a little bit of inconsistency. not surprising if it is a large organization. in terms of security costs, again, i know that there is probably a desire to be as safe as possible, but there is a cost to that for these street fairs, and it can at some point trick them into not being viable anymore. i know you know this -- >> i will be on the lookout. supervisor wiener: thank you. cohen -- supervisor cohen: thank you. i also wanted to compliment you on your quick, out of the box thinking on helping me solve some of my frustrations that you had a share with the uptick of crime.

thank you very much. i also want to thank you and your commands that were always being there and good community partners, not just leasing, but also building relationships, ensuring we have a safe passage to and from the bayview ymca and other areas of the district. i wanted to talk a little bit more about the crime lab. maybe it did give a quick update on what is going on and the costs associated -- maybe if you could give a quick update. >> right on cue. the director of recruitment is in process. the minimum staffing requirements have been met. eight dna specialists in two months. the technology of the dna testing -- we do it in-house for homicides, sexual assaults, firearms. we contract out everything else. supervisor cohen: how much does

the contract thing out cost? >> it would be cheaper to do in- house. >> can you tell me what the estimate is? how much does it cost to cost out? >> i will have that. we have been replacing the fingerprint system, which can search 100,000 fingerprints a second. phase one was the photographs of booking along with fingerprints. base two will be mobile id, which could be a dongle attached to the devices we're talking about. web-based search for warrants through the internet is already being tested. processing of fingerprints are at various locations and can also be an attachment but on the devices we are getting so that officers will have a mine field. the next slide speaks to capital and technology

initiatives as well. the new public safety building for the 2012-2013 budget for fixtures, furniture, and equipment -- $490,000. another $8.5 million. the crime lab -- our least in the hunters point naval shipyard will be expiring, so the crime lab budget would be $1.15 million. then the crime data warehouse -- $380,000 largely for licensing. then another $150,000. again, a lot of the stations are old, i alluded to have the appropriate network speed, the cost would be $150,000. we are making great progress. they do a great job. in fact, back to the civilianization plan, this very

capable budget staff reduced attrition savings by over $1.1 million in order to staff crime lab position so that we just get that much better. supervisor cohen: a couple of questions related to technology. i wanted to know if your department applied for any grants available. >> every grant that we get a chance, we apply. >> -- supervisor cohen: do you have a grant writer on staff? is she civilian staff? >> yes. supervisor cohen: ok, you can continue. >> that was it. supervisor cohen: i have more, but i will save it for later. supervisor chu: i do want to return to the question of civilianization. there's something i do not understand about the numbers. i am hoping the no. -- the controller's office might

be able to walk me through it. help me understand what you're talking about. i guess i am trying to understand how many civilian positions we currently have in the department, the number of those positions that are currently filled by uniformed officers, and those that are actually filled by civilians. i guess what the opportunities for moving people who are uniform off of those civilian positions might be. then, the other piece of it i want to understand is also -- are there any opportunities within your department that is currently not a civilian position that could be a civilian position? so those are kind of the areas where i am trying to understand where the numbers really are. third, related to that is the question around how many positions, civilian or otherwise, we would actually want to keep open for uniformed officers? they may either not be able to

be out on the streets for a number of reasons -- whether like to be modified because they are injured or other reasons. i guess i am just trying to understand how to get my head and around this. there might be something i am missing, so i am not sure how the numbers are integrated year. >> in the current year, we have a budget excluding civilians at the airport of 340 funded fte's of civilians in the police apartment. excluding the airport, of which 312 were filled. you have a certain number of vacancies, as you do in any department at a given moment in time. the budget grows the 340 #over the next two years to 413, it adds approximately 60 funded

fte's to the budget. those of the physicians generally detailed on the appendix a -- or table a of the memo we distributed. the majority of those are ones that our office has identified as civilianization possibilities. the only difference is that they are the bold ones with the budget has not added additional resources to a place where there might be another opportunity. one data point which we are still working -- supervisor chu: just so i understand, in the current year budget, we have 330 funded civilian positions in the department, and only 312 of those are currently filled? >> that is correct. for the pay period we are using here. supervisor chu: so we do have a

difference. is the difference where the department is filling in the gap with uniformed positions, or they are just leaving it open? >> just to make a point, in 2009, the last time the department was at 1971 police officers, we had 364 civilian employees on top of the 190071 police officers, excluding the 33 or so folks that work for occ? today, in the san francisco police apart rick, you have 1770-some odd sworn and 307 civilian to do at least the same amount of work? and if i could make one correction here only. that is as in the stanley police department's presentation, that is using authorized positions in the budget.

it is not funded positions. so where there might have been more position authority, they were not funded positions. if we look at funded positions in the same fiscal year, there were 330 funded positions, which is comparable to the 340 in the current year. again, we have seen some growth in that funded position string. not much. it is a modest change. >> again, though, and i did not want to get into an argument, but occ is included in the controller's numbers and not in the number is i am giving you. supervisor chu: 340 funded civilian positions. 312 currently filled that are civilians -- who are civilians? >> correct. supervisor chu: and then the balance of it, the difference --

are those positions being filled by uniformed officers, or just nobody is sitting in them, not doing that work? >> yes and no. some of them are funded by police officers. then the 13 positions did not exist. those are funded by police officers. i guess because the times had demanded that we do so, we have made it work with what we have however we could have. but i guess the point i am trying to make is back to 2009, there were somewhere around 300 more police officers sworn in the police department at that time doing the same amount of work every day. supervisor chu: and i appreciate that, but i know you are comparing back to 2009 for me. i understand why you are doing it, but i want to understand where we are now and how we can go forward. i do not want to keep on going back to 2009 because it is not a

relevant point for me. i am just trying to understand -- right now, are you filling civilian positions with uniformed officers? can we get them on the street? >> 52 of them. supervisor chu: 62, and the controller's offices there is an opportunity for 65 -- you say 52. >> it would be an ongoing effort, if you will. supervisor chu: at this moment, with the controller's office has reported saying is there are 65 opportunities where we could swap that a uniformed officer with uniformed individual. -- swap that a civilian for a uniformed individual. >> in some of these cases, those positions might be currently staffed with a light-duty officer, and hiring the civilian will not allow it. we're still working on that with

the police department. we will have to report back to you next week on that. supervisor chu: ok. the second one of the question, which is -- are there currently positions that could be civilianized which are not? >> where you would not need a police officer at all? i could look at that, but again, there are all the other officers that were added, so if we were able to do that, rather than go with one of the 1971, i would suggest we stay at the 1971 and put that officer in one of those other places. supervisor chu: so would you take a look in your organizational -- organizational structure? i think that is a question i would like to understand better. thank you. supervisor kim: also, i assume

you will be coming back. when you come back, to the question about the 28 positions, there are 340 that are funded. 312 that are filled. it the find out if this 28 are vacant or filled by a uniformed officer, it would be helpful. i think you said that some are vacant. some are uniform officers. so if you could get an accurate count. you did not have to get it today, but if we could get that number eventually, what the breakdown is, just so we understand what the opportunities are. i just want to reiterate, i am not trying to give the police department a hard time, either. i just want to see us bring as many officers out on the streets as possible, and one route is obviously the academy class, which it is great to see the mayor has budgeted in. with the understanding that we have some that are on temporary

leave or are disabled. having the understanding of that. and also, eventually, as we move forward its fiscal year, i would love to see us work on guidelines and principles for how we determine -- have a set of criteria for how we determine civilianization, similar to what other cities do. >> sure. the next is the technology plan. it is a rather text-heavy slide. i would rather have you look at it and see if you have questions. dollar amounts are not there because they are all works in progress. there has not been staff identified yet to go forward with all of it. the director is triaging this project list. longer projects would obviously

take a greater degree of thought to get to. supervisor chu: on this list, there's a lot of different areas here. where is your priority? >> if you talk with -- speaking with the director, the mobile technology for the officers is really, really big because it goes hand in glove with community engagement and improved operations. i have reached out to the private sector. i know that we have the support of the mayor's office, but the effort to make san francisco a regional hub, much the way it really is, connected to our neighboring counties, until we have all the officers out in the field connected, we will be limited to grow into connecting with alameda county, san mateo

county, and marin county, as their issues come and go from the city. our party is to grow this web- based platform so it will be at every station by the end of the month. 163 officers being certified in five core languages. we are in the process of developing an lapd language line. just to explain to you how it works, if officers carry these documents, it basically says on them that it depends on the

language you want to speak. they pick up one of these receivers they are at every station. the officer is on one line. speaking to the translator. they simply point to the language on these forms that they speak and they are connected in they will speak to somebody in their own language. the officer is able to participate in the conversation. that concludes our presentation. supervisor avalos: thank you for your presentation. a couple of questions. when you appeared here before, there was discussion about training between youth and

police officers. there was a suggestion that came out of the forme earlier this year, i am wondering where things are at with funding for the training. i believe the organization strategy -- >> there was no funding for the training. we have adopted training for the academy. it started with a lateral class. it will continue with the next academy class going forward. it meets every criteria, as discussed. they will participate in talking to the new officers. we are working with the san francisco unified school district on the memo you -- on the elmo ymou. everybody enjoyed the "it gets

better" video. we're working with them to find out what subjects they want to make a video on. we would be happy to lend the resources of our video unit to make such a video once we decide what the subject is going to be. supervisor avalos: it is great to see movement towards that end. i just heard from the director of the youth commission saying there is potentially finding -- potential funding for 80% of the program. they would need $10,000 to do additional training. could you check in with marieo o see where things are at? we could have an additional level of rapport with some talented trainers. >> when we did meet with supervisor campos, since times

are tough, maybe we would go with a local group that could help us with training with a similar model. go with the thinking of local hire versus hiring the company from across the country. supervisor avalos: you are waiting to hear back on that idea? >> we are going forward. we have to hire 763 police officers in the next six years. the youth puiece -- piece is in place and we do speak with mario often. supervisor avalos: i appreciate the efforts you are making.

the other question i have was looking at the tnt program. in the southeast sector, the southern sector, there has been an uptick in violence. we have not had the incidences and frequency of homicides and shootings in several years as we have had this year. people are very concerned. there has been somewhat of a rollback of the local staffing. we're wondering what we can do to reestablish that program. i am working with a lot of communicators to start neighborhood watch groups. programs that bring residents together. >>