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the second one is the corridor project led by the planning department. that would be the steady along the new central subway corridor and its relationship to howard st.. this amounts to 20% of all the grant money. that shows san francisco's competitive edge. the very last thing i want to tell you, as you note from your actions in october 2011, we are moving because our building is going to be converted. we really will commit commit -- wellcome it, even though we have
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to move. we're moving starting this thursday and we will complete our move on july 2. i ask that you bear with us if we are not as prompt as you would like. we will be working, of course, and trying to keep everything going during this major, major move. even though i expect that things will go according to plan, but there may be a couple of glitches, especially with high tech stuff. i would like to think the director of finance administration for doing this all while she is on maternity leave, coming back to work several times, and also, i would like to thank our deputy for technology services to step in former.
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-- for her. we could not keep her away. she is trying to get logistics done. that concludes our report. i would be happy to answer any questions. commissioner campos: thank you. colleagues, any questions of our executive director? seeing none, why don't we open and up to public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. madam clerk, could you call item no. 5. >> item 5 the exclusion of a legal documents there to -- and to take all the actions necessary connection with the issuance of such notes. >>commissioner campos: this is n item that came before the finance authority.
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we want to thank commissioner wiener for his work. i do have one speaker card. jackie sachs. and any other member of the public would like to speak on this item, please come forward. >> good morning, commissioners. my name is jackie sachs. this item has come before the citizens advisory committee for the last couple of years. i have been on the advisory committee since 1997, so i am very familiar with this item. it has always been passed by the cac. let's pass this item and let everything go forward, because it is very worthwhile. thank you very much. commissioner campos: thank you. any other member of the public?
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seeing none, public comment is closed. unless there are other questions, can we have all roll call on this item? >> [roll call vote] the item passes. commissioner campos: the item is approved. please call item no. 6. >> i'm -- item #6 pointappoint marlena cannon to the citizens' advisory committee. commissioner campos: is there any member of the public would like to comment on item number six? seeing none, public comment is closed. this is an action item.
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can we take the same boat? commissioner avalos? commissioner avalos: thank you. yes, malrena -- marlena presented herself to the committee. this is recommended be approved. commissioner campos: thank you. we thank her for her willingness to serve. same house, call? please call item no. 7. >> item #7 -- select center lane bus rapid transit when rice said boarding/a single meridian and limited left turns as the local preferred alternative for the van ness avenue project and approve the draft van ness ave report. commissioner campos: we want to thank the staff of the mta for working very hard on this item. is really great to see that. there is a resolution that has
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been reached on this issue. is a very important project. commissioner avalos? commissioner avalos: thank you. i want to thank those at plans and programs for their patience. between meetings, they were briefed, and we're moving this forward with greater community input. i want to thank the transportation authority for there work -- their work on the alternative for van ness was rapid transit. i think it is an elegant solution to what appears to be a corrupt -- conundrum. commissioner campos: thank you. i do think this shows the creativity we have in the city and county of san francisco,
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oftentimes being able to think outside the box of. we have a number of speaker cards. i will call them out. [reading names] and any other member of the public would like to speak on this item, please come forward. >> hello. my name is michelle brant's. i am also concerned that i get the feeling you're not really listening to the people in the public. what i have to say is not just my opinion. i know these things have been communicated to mark farrell and
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two others on this commission. although your own study refers to what you call the nobel the alternative -- bo build alter native, for some reason, and i was on the citizens' advisory committee, this has not been studied to the same degree. the only explanation i was given was this is not funded to the same degree. if it causes real problems for the handicapped and seniors, they will have to go two blocks more once they get off. this is not a huge walking distance for most people, but it is for the handicapped, and it
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could so easily be dealt with by having stressed buses during rush hour and regular buses during whatever is considered the quiet time. also, the advantage of the no build alternative is to save at least $70 million. the only time difference you talking about to really put into the improvements for this alternative, the same ones that you're talking about for the center alternatives like fewer bus stops, all those other boarding, different signs for the buses -- if you put all those things into the alternatives, you're only talking about a couple years
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difference in saving time in transit. i know they do not say anything about experimenting with these buses. bay do not say anything about parking in the california street -- they do not say anything about parking in california street. so, i would advise you to pay attention -- commissioner campos: thank you. thank you. [inaudible] >> members of the committee -- even when citizens, before you and say "will you please look at me, will you please listening to me?" you have better things to do. ipod watched her three minutes and for 30 seconds 1 supervisor
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looked her in the face. i guess if i did things like you did, i would one a look my constituents in the face either. one of my friends said "this is my friend ray. he will tell you things that even in your best friend will not tell you." i didn't know how to take that. i think people do not bother to come to these meetings because they know that you do not give a damn what they say. you will have conversations amongst yourselves. even the board president and mr. farrell and supervisor wiener -- commissioner campos: i would ask you to refer your comments to the entire commission. thank you.
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>> i know. that's a good way of deferring everyone being criticized. i have a right to say what i think about members of the body whose behavior i think is most egregious. you've really got to the point where you think 99% of the citizens of the city do not matter at all. i met the point where any of you are running for reelection, and voting for anyone else but you. commissioner campos: just a reminder -- >> i know we're not electioneering. commissioner campos: just a public comment on the specific item. >> and my public comment is a person came up here, very politely ask you to listen to what she had to say, and you just ignore hurt the entire
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time. commissioner campos: thank you. >> my name is george. i have lived in the corridor. we can look at the bold alternatives as well as the need to spend more on the options. i would like to say two things quickly today. one is the cost effectiveness calculations and also the reliability of the issues. i specifically request an understanding of where the cost effectiveness came from. can you turn on the overhead? the only way i can come up with the cost effectiveness that is quoted ais if every single rider
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gets the maximum time benefit. more reasonable numbers would easily come up with the cost effectiveness -- the second thing i want to speak to is the head by. it is the beginning of southbound at north point and van ness, which shows we have clustering of travelers who do not care what bus they are on, 47 or 49, during rush hour on van ness. 43% of the buses are within three minutes of each other by schedule. 17% -- 14% are within one minute. obviously, you add delays in,
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it's going to get worse. 69% of the bus time is outside the corridor. none of that is factored into reliability. furthermore, there is no actual reliability model presented. you cannot calculate it. it is only anticipated stocks that can be calculated in the model in the corridor. there is not a method or a guarantee since more than half the time, these buses are outside the court or. that is not going to change. however, you can do two things. you can get at least half of the improvements in public safety and reliability benefits by doing things michele was talked about, things that are ready and the plan. it needs to be done. commissioner campos: thank you,
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sir. next speaker, please. >> good morning, again. my name is jackie sachs. i was at the planning committee when this came up for approval. i will tell you the same thing i told them. in alba -- i am for consideration because it is a study they have been working on for years. when you are working on the construction for the brt to be worked in the center divide, you also have to remember the cpfc
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has to come between geary and post. i think it is very crucial. whoever is working with the brt all have to get together and coordinate there time lines -- their time lines. commissioner campos: thank you, ma'am. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is jason henderson. but just want to reiterate from the plans a program meeting, we are enthusiastically in support of the central lane hybrid
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option. we voted unanimously to endorse this project in the spring. on the bus rapid transit citizens advisory committee, we worked to tweak the alternatives over the past five years. so, there is a lot of support for this project, and especially having the school bus way in the center of van ness. doing nothing means everyone will suffer. everyone will be in traffic. buses will be in traffic. motorists are going to be at a standoff. you will improve by five minutes at least in the corridor for transit experience in the next
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few months to go to the planning commission, and part of that social contract is to have gold plated transit that works for people. i want to move to the mitigation part of the project. that is going to be very, very important, particularly down towards market street and van ness. the neighborhood association provided the mta and relevant supervisors with a letter with keep medications we urge you to look at, particularly the intersection of page, franklin, and market, where you're going to see essentially, hopefully, a bicycle boulevard on page street and on franklin, not the one way -- on franklin, the one way is in dire need of improvements.
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we agree with the mta's conclusion in the document that in the long term, the traffic congestion in that corridor does not warrant accommodating more cars, but warrants by transit first -- a transit first approached. i also urge you to make sure the transit trains are not impacted. as the medications are not liberated, -- medications are not liberated, we need to take a good close look to preserve a cycle track. there are a lot of moving parts here. commissioner campos: thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> at the last plans and programs meeting, i requested that whatever youtube -- you do,
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we need to address the concerns of the seniors. you can make statements. some of you all don't seem to get it. i think you will get it if you take a number of seniors and how much time they take from point a to point b. the planners, they like to do things were they create conceptual plans. conceptual plans are very rosy. what we really need is empirical data.
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in this plan that has been chosen, we the constituents of san francisco want to have an idea of what really will happen on franklin street. what really will happen on fourth street. we know there's going to be some heavy construction. some of it may even be an underground -- underground if california is allowed to have some sort of a tunnel underground. all of this will come in the way of the van ness corridor. this is a very, very heavy traveled corridor. we're not getting the empirical data.
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for the last five or six years, we have been discussing about this and that an whatever. we can discuss for 10 years. if you put a bunch of clowns, we can discuss it for 20 years. what is really going to come out of it is going to have a meaningful dialogue. some of us have seen it all of the world. and as to the speaker -- that's on new. i'm going to remind you. if you represent your districts, please do due diligence. thank you very much. commissioner campos: thank you. next speaker, please. my name is ben hoffman and i am
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a proud member of the san francisco transit riders association. the only twas i know of getting empirical evidence -- to ways i know of getting empirical evidence -- there are loads of examples of cities around the world that have robust brt. the other is to build the project. we have all the empirical evidence from other cities about a successful model to bring to san francisco, and so, i strongly advocate for this project on behalf of the san francisco transit riders union.
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we are a transit first city. we should be acting as a transit first city. we have the slowest transit system and the united states at 8 miles per hour. the only way to speed up is with robust rapid transit. we strongly urge for this project's approval, and with the mta and the board of supervisors, thank you for all your work on this. thank you. commissioner campos: thank you. if there is any other member of the public would like to speak, please come forward. >> good morning. i am here to voice my support and hope you guys approve the brt with limited left turns on
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the van ness ave. this affects the 47 and 49 lines. many people from those neighborhoods rely on those lines every day to get to and from work. often they are delayed because of ridiculous traffic levels on van ness ave. not only that come up with the advent of brt, you will be revitalizing the corridor. if you walk up the corridor, it is lonely out there. it is pretty downtrodden. this really brings new hope and it will breathe new life on to the corridor. and you guys would also be reaffirming transit first, which is part of the city charter. to many times, we have been planning for the automobile, and not so much for transit. this would be a step in the
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right direction. and that's it. thank you. commissioner campos: thank you. commissioner wiener, do you have a question? commissioner wiener: no. commissioner campos: next speaker, please. my name is brad thomas. i want to applaud you guys on the high level of coordination. this is an excellent compromise and i think it represents the citizens of the city " well, particularly transit riders in general. one thing, there are currently 85,000, roughly 85,000 automobile trips per day on van ness ave. i think it is important to point out on the center lane brt that needs to be a separation between us and automobile, and actual -- an actual separation
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of some sort. these folks are not going to understand, then to wait finding. what i am recommending is that there be some sort of simple separation to really, truly separate the brt lanes. if those folks end up inside of those lanes, it's really goi ng to slow down those brt buses. thank you. commissioner campos: thank you.
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is there any other member of the public would like to speak on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner wiener. commissioner wiener: thank you. in an enthusiastic supporter of this project. i really want to compliment staff for the really elegant solution. there is this a never ending debate. i think everyone probably agreed this defeats a lot of the purpose. i know there are operational concerns at the mta, and i know stop payment -- staff came up with a good solution.
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