have a discussion about that nomination, and if the votess are not there, then another not -- if the votes are not there, then another nomination on top of that. but a full and robust a discount -- discussion should be had pending this nomination. >> that is certainly appropriate, discussion on the motion before it is voted on. >> do we have to ask for public comment first? rex before a vote is taken, yes. -- >> before a vote is taken, yes. >> commissioner marshall, you have been wonderful, wonderful. president, vice president, president, vice president over the years. you have been here for eight years. i wonder if we can have an open and honest discussion about whether or not it is time that we share the leadership position. there are many other people here were just as qualified and do

just as good a job. and i do not mean that in a way to despair's -- to disparage dr. marshall in any way. he is one of five has done a great job. i think it is time we had someone share the board of supervisors as well and share representation. with that, i wonder if we can be open and honest and share that position. >> commissioner determined -- commissioner turman. >> i actually prepared some things before air denominations. but i still think they are appropriate now. and by the way, i believe the proper form of order is to take both nominations and have each commissioner vote on the name. that is the way it is preferred. in any case, i, too, have great

respect for dr. marshall, for what he gets here in the commission and what he does in the community. one thing i want to stress is that i think it is important that we ensure differing perspectives in the role of leadership. i think is important -- i mean, eight years of great experience. the commission has had the benefit of dr. marshall. i think we need to share leadership and give other people the opportunity to serve. i think giving others the chance to participate, learn, and lead are important. and i think the balance between the supervisors appointees and the mayoral appointees is also important. those comments are made without reference to any qualifications of dr. marshall.

it is my anders standing that traditionally, the price -- it is my understanding that traditionally, the vice president and the president have been a share domination by the appointees. only recently has been done differently. i think we would benefit by going back to the old system and insuring that both branches of government have leadership as well as the composition of the board. i make those statements with the greatest amount of respect for the hard work and experience and dedication that dr. marshall has brought to this commission. >> thank you. commissioner loftus. >> if i can just speak to who dr. marshall is too many of us, but as a new member of the

commission and coming on as a new member of the city family, that significant work that he does to take a stand and create possibilities for some young people who probably believe they never had a chance before they met this man, i think the type of leader he is for the city and what he stands for is so powerful and important, especially in the conversation around policing. i think he represents some of the most vulnerable populations in the city. based on his work in the community, based on the type of person he is and the leadership style he adds, the fact that, frankly, coming on to the commission provide seems as though everyone is functioning quite well. i heard a lot of great comments about the police department. i think the leadership -- the leadership team of president mazzucco and dr. marshall from my perspective has been very successful. dr. marshall's role on the leadership team is something that will continue to reap

benefits for the department and the commission. >> i have known dr. marshall -- he is the senior state person on the commission. and i have worked with him in various roles. i have listened to the show on sunday nights. i respect what he brings to the commission and to the community. and i do appreciate what the commissioners said, that at some point there should be a mixing. i appreciate and understand that. when i came on the commission provide was somewhat divided. it was pretty clear, and mayoral pay or a board pick. it was one of my last goals in the last year to make sure that one away. the are -- we are all commissioners and it is irrelevant who appointed as. i do understand where you're coming from, but i like the fact that the commission works really well together. we work really, really well. and i think we have a lot of new commissioners, like yourself are in their first year and being

groomed to take leadership roles. dodt knows, i will not be president next year. i think there will be -- god knows, i will not be president next year. i think there will be changes in april. i think we are getting to that point and i feel comfortable getting to the point where we are having a frank conversation about it. the one thing i do not want to lose is that we are not a divided body. we are cohesive and we work together and get things done. i want to keep it that way. >> i think we're all on the same page. i am concerned about the process. i thought we were going to have a discussion regarding elections and then have nominations. i really do not want to make this about dr. marshall. i think we all agree is a wonderful man and a wonderful leader. i thought we're going to have some kind of discussion about moving forward and how we were going to go forward and if a record to share or not share. i do believe you can nominate

more than one person and have a discussion and have a discussion and vote on one person. i'm sorry the city attorney is not here. i have a copy at home. but not with me. i was hoping that process would be somewhat different. because this is not about marshall, but how we want a commission to look to the community and for us. and whether or not we wanted a change. i was hoping we would do that prior to putting the nomination on the floor. i think we all agree that dr. marshall has done a wonderful job. that is now we are focusing on. -- not what we are focusing on. our focus is whether we need a change of leadership. >> i think it would have been better to have a discussion about names coming up because i have a ton of respect for dr. marshall. you have been doing youth work a lot longer than i have. my respect is genuine.

but i do think we need to share these positions. i agree it should be united and it should be who is the -- appointed by the mayor and was appointed by the board. but the fact is, of both leadership positions have not been held by a board appointee. now that we have a female majority, i would be great to share in that way. there are many ways it could be shared. whatever happens to like my respect, and i respect all of the service that dr. marshall has put into this commission, but as president and vice president. i will respect that commission -- that decision. >> should we move forward with a vote? >> before we have a vote, i would like to hear from the two people who have been nominated. as to what they think in terms

of time, availability, the responsibilities of vice president, their expectations are around it and whether or not it is something they're willing to do. or they are feeling their honored to be nominated, but maybe this is quite to create a burden for them. i would like to hear from the two people nominated in terms of their own been put around the position. -- in put around the position. >> dr. marshall? rex i serve at the pleasure of the commission. -- >> i serve at the pleasure of the commission. >> commissioner turman. >> i have not been nominated. [laughter] >> i think that is wrong. >> i certainly do not have the

years of service on this commission as dr. marshall. i certainly appreciate everything dr. marshall has done. and i look to dr. marshall as an example of what commissioners can do and should achieve. if elected to this position, i would also serve at the pleasure of the commission. having worked with you, commissioner kingsley come on exactly the obligations, the requirements of the commission -- i know there are no specific duties laid down for the vice president, but i have watched dr. marshall certainly take on certain kinds of obligations to make sure we address certain issues. i certainly have my issues that i think we should address. i am a busy man with a busy law practice, but we all have jobs and we all care. it is time we do what is

important with this commission -- we make time for what is important, and this commission is important. >> ok, at this point what we need to do is -- lt. riley is on the phone. >> what is going on? >> he is on the phone. >> to attend a rally, as everything -- ? >> oh, no. just sfgtv checking in. >> at this point, should we move

on with a vote, the tenor ready? >> as you direct, mr. president. >> we would vote on the nomination of dr. marshall, first, i take it? >> we did not complete the second nomination. we had a motion on the second nomination. i would have to ask for that second motion and second nomination again. >> i think that is wrong, but to go ahead if we're going to do it that way. i think is wrong. >> should we take a quick recess and contact the city attorney? >> i think that would be advisable at this point. >> may be what we can do is move into the next item as closed session. >> just take a five-minute bout your right. >> will go into recess for five minutes. and we will decide what we will do with the second nominations.

>> will be taking a brief recess at 6:53 p.m.

>> thank you for being here. i want to thank the young people for being here, because you are the future. there are going to be things in this building and you are going to see that are not normal in those buildings yet. they are cutting edge, but by the time it you are my age, everybody is going to have this stuff, and you will be some of the first to see it. it is great to have you here. really quickly, this is a building we are proud of, because this is really who epitomizes the value in san francisco. it uses a third less power than a normal office building. it saves money.

i want to kick it off by introducing the mayor over his career he has have so many different figures on this building from being the administrator to being the mayor, so this is a welcome thing. phyfe good morning, everybody -- >> good morning, everybody. i have got the same eyes as you today. this is the first time i have stepped into this building as well. everything you see is going to be the same as for me. i am going to last questions, -- to ask questions, and i am going to try to figure out where this water comes from. i am going to have the same questions as you have because i am excited about this building, and i am thankful to the public utilities commission, to the wonderful staff, and the others

on the team. i am thankful to the commission as well that they have been guiding this process. some years ago when i was an attorney, i was working on this side. this used to be the site of the workers' comp hearing room, and i had to go to court to represent workers who were injured, and over the years the state abandoned it. it became an abandoned site. and we were a little embarrassed because we did not know how to deal with it for years, and the idea came from others. after so much effort, why don't we stop paying rent for all the offices? why don't we consolidate but of the same time use our devolved

intelligence about building the greenest building weekend, -- we can? we are one of the green is buildings in the country. this is the only building that is going to reuse its waste water. it is creating energy by wind and by solar on the roof in very large amounts that will have the design and now working with the contractors. good i want to thank n d for his wonderful construction capabilities, and because they house accepted a design and all the challenges that go with it to build if the right way. they use special concrete. they were to make sure air flow can reduce the amount of air

conditioning we see in many of buildings, and it is terrain high use of energy for the system to work, but the air flow so that 20 or 30 years down the road when we are redoing these floors, we will be able to do it in a much more efficient manner. in fact, this building saves the puc and the city's $500 million over the next 100 years. that is great because the puc exists because of ratepayers. they want to see the smartest technology. gerd they want to see a building that not only houses 900,000 employees but also those that are smart handling a strong interest in making sure we continue maintaining a water

system. not only is it a great building. this is for you. this is a building that educates you and your families for generations to come. how we take care of our water system and how we maintain the system not just for san francisco insert but for the people who depend upon a national water system and maintain it and spent a lot of money making sure it is earthquake safe. this building is also going to be the safest building to be in in case there ever is an earthquake event, and we are doing that with our libraries, our civic buildings, and we will build new buildings, and we

want to make sure it will withstand. if you are in buildings, it is going to rock a little bit, but it will be saved. i was here over a year-and-a- half ago, and we were across the street and putting on the last dream, and we were already excited to see how this would come out, and every floor has special things, and it is using all of our artwork, so you can see the ninth art work. they are displayed to make it a good working environment. the other part and we are so proud of is working with all the subcontractors, 40% of all the work force until this building and designed its are san francisco residents commo, so we

honoring our critical goal for the jobs we want. we have honored the union and labour to make sure it happened the right way, so this represents so much of the good things we have always wanted out of our public buildings and construction company, and i want to congratulate dpw, our public utilities commission and staff, contractors, community of arts programs, other agencies working in with this, and our vendors, whether they are contractors or the other businesses that help with the video and electronics and this building to make it not only modern but technologically updated so four years you're going to be able to see the

whole hetch hetchy water system displayed for our kids and future families but also to use it in every day technology for communications. this is more than just a building. it is a demonstration of what we can do when we work together to put the goals of the greenest and most modern and technology in blessing with what the public utilities commission does for a city, and that is to take care of our own water and infrastructure and waste water. congratulations for a wonderful effort, but congratulations for a building i know you were involved in every part of this, and it is a great way to really have a wonderful legacy you have high. congratulations to you. [applause]