supervisor. supervisor wiener? supervisor wiener: thank you. i just want to clarify one thing. the cleaning crew positions -- those are not funded, so those are being eliminated. >> so, the agreement is for four labor positions. supervisor wiener: and so, i am very interested in picking up dpw staffing around cleaning crews for the city, as well as gardening and landscaping work. i think dpw is very under- resources in those areas. we have seen a hollowing out in recent years in those functions. i would love to have more. i just want to raise that point.

this is more a technical adjustment and would not in any way -- it is not really an ad back, but doing whatever we can to increase those positions so we have even more cleaning capacity. supervisor chu: thank you. mr. rose, any comments? >> no, madam chair. supervisor chu: ok, colleagues, can we take a motion for dpw. without objection. to ethics commission. >> good afternoon, supervisors. the commission agrees with the revised recommendations from the budget analyst. supervisor chu: any comments?

>> madam chair, and no additional comments. supervisor chu: 2 we have a motion to accept a budget analyst recommendations? we have a motion. we do that without objection. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. in the past week, the city administrator's office work with the budget analyst and came to agreement on many things. on the current cut list, we agreed to the recommendations on page 68. however, there are four items we would like to discuss today. the city manager 0932 position, the earthquake safety implementation program, the community specialists that would go into the neighborhood power

network division, and attrition for gsa hr. supervisor chu: can you just speak to the items you're saying you're not an agreement with? >> yes, those four. supervisor chu: can you specify which ones on which page they are? >> sure. on page 69, that is -- attritions savings from the general services agency, a human-resources department. the key issue for us with the attrition as whether or not we have enough salary to support the positions currently listed in the budget. the budget and attrition savings are currently listed at 1.43 positions at $200,000, which is approximately 3.3% of the total positions. the budget analyst proposed an

adjustment of $118,000 which would increase attrition savings to 6%. the proposed cuts are unrealistic for us in the city administrators of those given there are no anticipated vacancies and this attrition rate has been 0%. what we propose is instead of this attrition, we propose delaying the hiring of the 0932 position until january to garner savings there. on page 69, the second issue is the earthquake safety program. the budget analyst is recommending decreasing the position from a manager 4 to a manager 2 position, and we respectfully disagree in that this position requires a highly technical person with the

knowledge and ability, who is likely an architect or engineer or certified this -- building inspector. this person would require extensive knowledge of local and national building codes, which are in constant change, and experience and emergency planning. the ability to work with the community with outreach to improve these vulnerable buildings and also to work with any of the different departments. as you know, we don't know when the next earthquake will occur, so we want to staff this position immediately. the former city administrator amy brown had proposed last year to hire at three positions. in stead we are just asking for one position immediately in this fiscal year. with regards to the professional services on page 70, we

understand the budget analyst with like to put money for the professional services contract on reserve for the earthquake safety implementation program. however we would propose possibly moving this money to the comptroller, as we were trying to get this off the ground running. we would still have an independent or neutral party and a spending plan for consultants. and last -- moving to page 70 is the neighborhood empowerment position, the community development specialist. that would work with the mayor's

office. this is responding to the solution of the redevelopment agency and the community development programs that basically ended when the redevelopment agency was dissolved. particularly in the bayview neighborhood, the south of market area. this position would provide technical support to the bayview pact and would also help with the midmarket. there is definitely needed community outreach with these bodies, and possibly developing a citizens advisory committee in this area and in this position with outreach to the community will provide the needed technical support. supervisor chu: thank you. supervisor wiener? supervisor wiener: thank you.

with respect to the earthquake preparedness position, can i just ask is that a $60,000 saving over two years? if i am not mistaken? >> let me turn back to that. supervisor wiener: correct me if i'm wrong. i saw in the report, there was not enough detail provided about the program. can i just ask what the rationale is for the recommendation of manager 2 versus manager 4? >> supervisor wiener, we were given a description.

the reason we recommended manager 2 was the scope of the program. they had not developed yet. they had not come up with any detail. it is a $400,000 budget. we did not see this a significant program to justify the higher level manager. since they are now saying they need someone with higher level technical skills, that is not information provided to was previously. supervisor wiener: would you have come to a different conclusion? >> i think it is new information. part of the reason for recommending the service is that we have no information on this program, so i think it might be worthwhile to talk about this program a little bit more so we understand it better. supervisor wiener: ok. maybe you can do that. we talked about the desire to accelerate, because, you know,

we all know we have an enormous amount of work to do. given that new information is not a particularly huge amount of money. but if there is a legitimate amount of rationale, that would be good to know that. >> thank you, supervisor. to the budget analyst, with regard to the remains of your report -- are there areas agreement? >> madam chair, members of the committee, given the fact that the department concurs with all of our recommendations on page 68, we would concur with their disagreement to our recommendation on top of page 69. we would withdraw the

recommendation. if you want to -- >> i would like to verify there is agreement with the first three items. the administrative analyst position, the attrition savings, the salaries in the second year. if that is the case, what we're recommending -- what ms. kelly is recommending is there be a delay in the hiring. that, we would concur with. >> yes, i agree. that is correct. supervisor chu: colleagues, can we entertain a motion to set the budget analyst recommendations on page 68 and with regard to the attrition savings items, they withdraw that item? can we do that? we do that without objection. with regard to the senior

administrative analyst on page 69 -- it looks like there is no dollar value associated with that, correct? item on page 69? >> we would clarify that is a limited, a tenured position rather than fullbacks >> yes. >> to the director, just very quickly -- on page 69, the position we are having a little discrepancy over, that is not the earthquake position? >> no. supervisor cohen: maybe i missed something. can you tell me what happened to bthe admin position? did we approve it? >> no, we have not gotten to that yet. supervisor chu: colleagues, can we approve that? without objection. the items remaining relate

primarily to the earthquake safety program on page 69. and of course, the reserve on page 70 as well as the community development specialist position. just quickly, in terms of the project close up, do you have anything for the close out on page 71? >> no disagreement. supervisor chu: colleagues, can we entertain a motion to close out those projects? >> so moved. supervisor cohen: i want to speak to the admin position. supervisor chu: we have not gotten to that yet. the only items relate to the earthquake safety program, and that is basically to have a manager 2 position and it requires a programmatic budget reserve for contracts. i know supervisor wiener had

spoken to this issue earlier. there is basically new information regarding the need for an engineered by position. i would think a manager 4 position would be something we would want for something that is of $400,000 project budget. i do not know there is necessarily a a difference to managing different individuals within this department or this area or this program. i would ask that the budget analyst work on that issue. be preserved -- i'm neither here -- the reserve -- and neither here nor there about it. so, those are my thoughts. supervisor cohen? supervisor cohen: thank you. i apologize about being anxious about this position.

i just want to echo ms. kelly's articulation that we need a position to support efforts that were formally -- formerly conducted by the bayview area under the pac. in bayview, we're seeing significant changes in many projects. pac provided a structured process for community members to make recommendations to the city. it also received delegated authority from the planning department to review projects, review development proposals. it is my hope that this position will help my office revision the structure of community input. i think we all agree a lot of

these plans are for significant changes to the southeastern part of the city. thank you. >> being that the city administrator is reducing the general fund request, i would support the city administrator 's defenses in bad area -- in those two areas. the remaining two items, and then the reserve recommendation, i would go with the city administrator and the two items. supervisor chu: thank you. colleagues, with respect to the remaining two items, do we have

an interest in holding over or action on these items? supervisor cohen: i would move to hold over the manager position, whether that position should be hired in or approving the final two, which is the community specialist, and i reserve recommendation. >>supervisor chu: ok. supervisor kim has moved to not accept the community specialist position. supervisor wiener? supervisor wiener: i thought the motion was to delay the earthquake manager -- to consider that later? supervisor chu: there are two recommendations relating to the earthquake safety program. one is to put the contract on reserve, and if i understand

supervisor kim's motion, it is to not accept the programmatic budgets and to leave for discussion whether manager 4 or manager 2 is more corporate. colleagues, we do have that motion. can we take that without objection? >> we do that without objection. supervisor chu: thank you. ok, colleagues, do we have any other items? supervisor wiener: actually, i thought was of the planning department coming back? supervisor chu: the planning department is, i believe, at their commission meeting. supervisor wiener: ok. supervisor chu: given we have gone through our department at this time, colleagues do we have a motion to combine items three

and four? do we have a motion to continue the combined items one and two to our wednesday meeting? without objection. do we have any other items? >> beckham please the agenda. supervisor chu: thank you. we are adjourned.

supervisor chu: hello, and welcome to the special meeting of the budget and finance committee. my name is carmen chu, chair of the committee. i am joined by supervisor avalos, supervisor camp, and supervisor cohen. supervisor wiener will join us in a few minutes. our court today is victor young. any announcements? >> please silence also funds of the electronic devices. copies of any documents to be included as part of this file should be submitted to the clerk. item number one, proposed budget an annual appropriation ordinance abrading all estimates and receipts for expedited

expenditures for departments of the city and county of san francisco as of may 31, 2012 for the fiscal year ending june 30, 2013, and june 30, 2014. at no. 2, it will salary ordinance enumerating positions in the annual budget an appropriation ordinance for the fiscal year ending june 30, 2013, and june 30, 2014. supervisor chu: thank you. we still have outstanding issues and where the department went to work with the budget analyst to take a look at the details. with that, let's jump straight to the department. the health services system. >> thank you, catherine thought, san francisco health department's system. i want to thank the budget analysts office. we'll come to an agreement to an additional 46,000 to one report dollars in budget cuts for this is a year in for the house of

$427 for the next fiscal year. we are pleased to work closely and on that agreement. supervisor chu: think you. just be clear, the department isn't approval of all of the budget recommendations? >> yes. >> madam chair and members of the committee, and i have nothing to add. to the a motion to object? we will do that without objection. thank you to the department for your agreement. to the public library. >> good morning, city librarian. the key to the budget analyst for the support. we are in concurrence with the deficit reduction. the only outstanding issue remains the recommendation of the library openings additional flow hours there represents 2.5

fte for those facilities. i am happy to respond to any questions you may have. supervisor chu: would you be able to address the area where there is still the this agreement? >> madam chair, just to clarify these are the policy recommendations. the library is an agreement with all of the recommended cuts. these are the policy recommendations on pages 13 and 14. supervisor chu; what remains is primarily the policy recommendations for the custodian, a library one and a library tech assistance. these four positions are related to the expansion of library hours, correct? take of that is correct. - >> that is correct.

supervisor chu: given that the department has agreement with the department recommendations, i would recommend we accept the policy recommendation by the budget analysts. i am a big fan of expanding the library hours and would hope the committee would not take the recommendations the we're able to expand the library hours. supervisor cohen: i want to echo your comments, and i also want to say thank you for your commitment, particularly the visitation library. we have seen as a destabilizing force that is forcing nonprofits, largely due to the economic climates that are no longer able to support the community, but the library has

been a stabilizing force in supporting not the summer reading programs and summer parents for programs -- summer programs, but also reinforcing educational values that many of the students are receiving throughout the school year. i want to say thank you. i will ago the comments of the chair and will be standing in favor of the hours expansion for the public library. >> let me add the visitation library communities. we're very proud of that. >> thank you. supervisor avalos: thank you. i will of course concur with my colleagues here as well. these are branches that were recently renovated as well, so

we have parts of the community that did not have access to a neighborhood library, and i would agree with the library that is a real anchor on the commercial corridor in neighborhood and part of the revitalization of visitation valley. that is just a small corner of it. >> supervisor, let me clarify, those are two buildings. they went from very small leased space to brand-new buildings. supervisor kim: i will make a motion to disapprove the policy recommendation of the budget legislative analyst for the public library. supervisor chu: motion ought to take action on the recommendations and except the remainder of the recommendations where there is agreement.

can we do that without objection? to the library, just a quick question for you. given where your department is, i think it might be interesting for us to understand it there are additional zero hours to expand in other parts of the city as well. >> absolutely, as required by the charter we will engage in a full-fledged analysis in each district, and we would love to engage all of you to get the word out so that as these, about half during september and october and the fall so that we controlled and to modify it hours so we do meet the needs of the entire city with regards to library hours. it will also include a survey of the community. we're working with the comptroller's office to make sure we are fully engaged in do the data analysis correctly. >supervisor chu: you talk about

the hours analysis and the outreach and to make sure we're cognizant of the unique needs, but with regards to the budget, do you have the ability to start adding hours if the study would turn back? do you have the flexibility to do that within your budget at this moment? is that something we can consider? >> we would have flexibility to make modifications it adjustments based on community needs. again, cause i didn't -- to be cognizant of the fact that we need the budget to balance. the commission has always been supportive of modifying the hours to truly meet the community needs. we would have fund balance and the reserve to look at that. supervisor chu: thank you. why don't we go to the next