for this item. >> thank you. in the time i have worked for her and known her as a person and as a professional, it is your intellectual brilliance. she is the go to person in our organization for legislative drafting on criminal-justice issues. we need to turn to her for anything. she is so insightful. her turnaround time is quicker than i could ever come up with. her ideas are just so the cute and rarely thoughtful and compassionate. the other thing that really speaks to me is a multi-cultural intuition.

she was born and raised in south africa. there is something that comes from being raised in a multicultural country that i cannot compare with that thoughtfulness. it is remarkable every time i have spoken with her. i think that is important. when we speak about incarceration, in particular. her level of empathy, that is more important than anything else. i highly recommend her. supervisor kim: thank you for being here. public comment is not closed on this item. -- is now closed on this item. we do have two applicants.

it is the only seed that the board of supervisor and points to the sentencing commission. under the guidelines, the board of supervisors selects a sentencing experts. i think that in this case, if we do not have the sentencing expert that is a san francisco resident, the particular assets may be appropriate to apply for a residency waiver. supervisor campos: thank you. i want to thank both applicants. it is always impressive when people want to serve the city and county. i have to say that the hardest thing about this appointment is that you have two outstanding candidates. i do not know, to be honest, if it is easy to say who is better because each one of you bring

something very unique to this position. each one of you would do a stellar job. we do have to make a choice. given the fact that this is something that has been very important to me, making sure that we have more women and more people of color in these roles, i am leaning towards ms. naidoo. that is not anything negative to say about mr. hopper. i think he is an excellent candidate. i think there but seeking a residency waiver. -- they are both seeking a residency waiver. mr. hopper has lived in san francisco before. i think both of these individuals have a connection to the city.

i am not worried about a residency waiver in that case. that is where i am right now. supervisor farrell: the worst part of being on this committee is you have to pick between some qualified candidates. both of you are incredibly impressive. i think i will absolutely bowed to the judgment of the group. my issue is having san franciscans here. for me, having someone who works in san francisco on a daily basis, that takes nothing away from everything you are doing, at that would be important to me.

i have said no to a candidate before you have come before us on the face of the residency waiver requirements, we are the city and county of san francisco and i think it is important of local folks here. that would be my comments. i will throw it back to supervisor kim. i will happily support what is the will of this body. thank you for coming forward. >> i will be happy to support either one as well. that is why chairs of committees get paid the big bucks. supervisor kim. supervisor kim: i was hoping there would be some consensus. we occasionally have these moments where we are equally

divided between both candidates. that is the case. you were great in terms of being good about coming to the board and having to manage the speak for you. regarding the point about the residency waiver, it helps to know about your relationships and connections with the city. with mr. hopper, i appreciate that you have lived in san francisco and you work here. i was very impressed with the range of solutions that you talked about for the drug sentencing commission and i appreciate your experience in the criminal justice system as an attorney. i think that is really important on the census commission. i recognize we probably had other criminal attorneys on

there. we do have less women on the sentencing commission. there are 10 members. there are four women and six men. i want to point both of you. -- a point both of you. i will go with supporting ms. naidoo. i thought you both for tremendous. i get the sense that you both work together already. a lot of the policies were really important. i want to say, mr. hopper, i was very impressed with your presentation. unfortunately, the other seat is from the mayor's office. perhaps, if there is an opportunity, we will contact the appointment secretary.

>> one suggestion i have, i do think it would be helpful for us to forward mr. hopper's resin made -- resume to the mayor's office and other agencies. during number of conditions that we have in the city -- there are a number of commissions that we have in the city and given the exemplary achievements and attributes, i think the city would be well served to have you play a role in some capacity if that is of interest to you. i think there are a number of commissions where vacancies are coming up and i certainly would be very pleased and honored to support you in one of those roles. i think the city would be well served would someone of your background and caliber.

i would recommend that we send that to the mayor's office and that we also think about any other commission where there is a vacancy. i think this expertise is impressive. i make a motion to move the nomination of ms. naidoo forward with a residency waiver. supervisor kim: i did get confirmation that the mayor's seat is open. i note is not specifically in academia of. our office is already forging your resume. -- according -- sportiandforwarg your resume. we can do that without objective. thank you.

>> item number two, motion approving/rejecting the mayor's appointment of ann lazarus to the board of appeals for the term ending july 1, 2014. supervisor kim: we do have ann lazarus with us today. you have already been before this committee. you were nominated to the port commission. if you could briefly introduce yourself to the rules committee and talk a little bit about some of the work you have to do on the board of appeals. >> thank you. i appreciate you having me here this afternoon. i do want to make it clear that i have never lived anywhere else or voted anywhere else. i have had the privilege of serving on the city's port commission for the last eight years. i am honored and awed to a been

offered another opportunity to continue to serve my native city. i am very much looking forward to moving on to the board of appeals. while i could speak about some of the issues before the porch and the city, i cannot do so about issues that might be coming to the board of appeals. instead, i will make a few statements about how i plan to approach my service on that commission if you decide to recommend them. i will tell you that i plan to do my homework. i know that these are very serious matters, they are considered quasi-judicial. i will not go into any meeting not prepared to be conversant with the issues. another aspect of that is becoming familiar with both sides of the issue. it would be my intent to give equal weight to the sites

represented there. i would not approach any of these cases with previously determined agenda, it would read the materials, would listen to what they have to say. i would not have any new hampshire bias towards any particular applicants -- i would not have any in eigate bias tows any particular applicant. i believe in collaboration. i consider myself a collaborative person. i will look forward to working with my colleagues to seek if we could work out compromises, the proverbial win-win situation so we could move things forward and not have to give a yay or nay to a particular side. i asked for your support.

i would be honored to serve on the city's board of appeals. supervisor kim: we do have some -- supervisor campos: thank you for your interest in continuing to serve the city and county of san francisco. thank you for the opportunity to meet with you prior to the hearing. i do not know that people fully understand the importance of the board of appeals. if you look at the level of responsibility that is given to that entity, it plays a very important role and -- there is this positive action that takes place on some very important issues. it is taking into account happen -- it is taken into

account concerns from the community. if you can talk a little bit about your willingness, ability, as you are hearing these individual cases, where there might be implications that go beyond the impact of the individuals involved. your ability and willingness to make sure those concerns are taken into account in your deliberations. >> certainly. i would try to look where appropriate at any of those cases -- cases in a larger context. you cannot just look at what is happening between two individuals, to adjacent properties, but you need to look at the wider world. i have an interest in public policy. i would have some of those policy issues in the back of my mind.

they're not likely to be black and white, just confined to that particular situation. supervisor campos: i think that is very important. another issue that you mentioned and one that i was wondering if you could expand upon, there are times you have parties, for a range of reasons, may not have a level of understanding how the process works, it may not have the means to have the level of representation that is needed, a man not speak the language, the level of sophistication in terms of the proceedings may not be on par of that of the other party, and making sure that all that is

taken into account to to guarantee that everyone has gone to have a fair shot in presenting their case. i am wondering if you can expand on that. >> right. it is incumbent upon the members of the commission to try to elicit the information that would be necessary to make a fully informed decision. i'd been made aware of the fact that in the experts take communications are not allowed and it is limiting in terms of doing that part of the homer. it would need to happen within the context of the hearing -- part of the homework. we need to happen within the context of that hearing. we need to make sure we have all the facts and all the evidence that is available carry -- that is available. supervisor kim: you talked about your background. are there specific experiences

or work experience is that you how that would make to a good candidate to serve on this board? >> i do feel that my service to the city, i efforts for the city in other capacities and i've lived and worked in san francisco all of my life. i have had an exposure to a wide range of issues over many decades. i have had a chance to consider and work with a lot of different organizations, constituencies, and is that exposure to a number of different issue exco -- different issues. by think that particular skill sets -- i think that particular skill sets i would bring to bear in my role as the commissioner. supervisor kim: have you

attended a meeting at the board of appeals? >> no, i've not. supervisor kim: have you been able to observe it in other capacities? >> i have known former commissioners and had the opportunity to meet with the executive director and become familiar with some of the rules and regulations and other aspects. supervisor kim: thank you so much. we will open up for public comment on this item. >> good afternoon. i work for the port commission and wanted to share with you my strong recommendation for ann lazarus's appointment to this commission. everything she described is not

something that she has projected. it is something that she has done. it really has been an honor as a member of the staff to work under her leadership because in her eight years, a lot of what has happened along the waterfront and where it is going has really happened under her watch. to address your question about community participation she has given us great leadership to kraft process these specific to educating the public, uses along the waterfront, and extensive public processes for major development projects that reach well beyond the geographic balance of the particulars that

many of the nearby constituents bring to the port commission's attention. in that process, has really serve to educate the public at large. my strong recommendation for her appointment. thank you. supervisor kim: thank you. any other public comment? if you would like to speak on this item, please stand. >> good afternoon. i am speaking to you as an individual, but also as a port employees. i have that be wonderful experience of working with the commissioner over the last eight years. i'd been at the port for more years than i would want to count. i have seen number of commissioners come and go, but none have shown the integrity and hard work and honesty that commissioner ann lazarus has

shown. i support her confirmation to the appeals commission. thank you. supervisor kim: public comment on this item is now closed. >> i have to say that i have known her for a little while. senior resident been nominated for its, and i think -- seeing a resident being nominated for it. i think we would be honored as a city to have you back. i would make a motion to forward this with recommendation to the full board. supervisor kim: we would amend the motion to approve the

mayor's appointment. >> ok, there we go. approving the mayor's appointment of ann lazarus. supervisor kim: we do have a motion to approve the mayor's appointment. and a motion to refer this item as a committee report so we can hear it next tuesday, july 24. i believe we have a second from supervisor campos. thank you to your service for the city on the port commission. i know it was a lot of work. i know it was a very exciting time, and continues to be. citing for the waterfront. your previous -- continues to be a very exciting time for the waterfront. i support your nomination as

well. supervisor campos: i want to thank the commissioner for her willingness to continue to serve. supervisor support your kim: wen and a second. >> motion approving/rejecting the mayor's appointment of frank fung. supervisor kim: he is currently serving on the board of appeals. it is the same format as ann lazarus. >> i am here to ask for your it is the same format as ann lazarus. >> i am here to ask for your conf discussed earlier, the board here is a wide variety of cases. the majority of cases happen to be from the planning and building. my background as an architect and planner alliance itself to

resolu the broader mission of the appeals that pits neighbor against neighbor is quite diverse. what we're really looking for is how we do what is fair, how we do what is looking at the law, at the charter, but also looking at the equity that is involved. that is extremely important for the commission that is called the court of last resort. prior to any potential litigation. what we bring to it is a willingness to listen, the willingness to hear all sides of it, to be able to make a rational and fair decision. supervisor kim: thank you.

any questions? we will open up for public comment. public comment is now closed. colleagues? supervisor campos: thank you -- i am reading my agenda and correctly. thank you for coming forward. i am pretty familiar with how the commissioner approaches the job. it is one of those things, in this kind of setting, you may not always agree with everything that is decided. it is really about making sure that we have someone who was going to take the time to prepare for the hearing, have an open mind, and give every party

an opportunity to make their case. with that, i make a motion approving the mayor's appointment of frank fung to the board of appeals. supervisor farrell: i am happy to second that motion. it was great to meet the other day for the first time. i know of your long history and your stellar reputation. i look forward to working with you. supervisor kim: kailasa be supporting this motion. it is great when you have -- i will also be supporting this motion. when you do not get any questions, it is a good sign. rather than we are not interested in your appointment. i have appreciated working with you since i was a member of the school board. given your work with our minority contractors.

i appreciate your perspective and and candor and your consistency and your work in the city. i am happy to support this motion and we can do that without opposition. do we have a motion to refer this as a committee? >> i am looking at the agenda. supervisor kim: it will be heard on tuesday, july 31. we can do this without opposition. thank you. can you please call item number 4? >> motion approving/rejecting the mayor's appointment of cabinet -- kevin cheng to the board of appeals for the term ending july 1, 2016. supervisor kim: we received notice yesterday afternoon that the mayor has withdrawn this appointment.

colleagues, can we entertain a motion to continue this motion to the call of the chair? we do need to open up for public comment on this. two minutes. >> good afternoon. i am a san francisco resident. i am pleased to hear that this appointment has been withdrawn by the mayor's office. i think he received considerable information. it would be a very inappropriate to have someone with his record to be on the board of appeals. i hope that his appointment is not some time resurrected. supervisor kim: public comment is now closed.

supervisor campos: in light of the fact that the appointment has been withdrawn, i did not want to comment about this nomination. i do want to say that i hope as the mayor moves forward with the appointment to fill this vacancy, we do think about making sure that we have as diverse a board of appeals as possible. given the very important role that this body plays in deciding some very important matters that come before the city, i think having a body that is fully representative of all the communities in san francisco would be helpful. right now, there is no african- american member on the board of appeals. i think that is one of the considerations i hope the mayor t