right in the citizen was wrong. it is a denial of due process and i think that you cannot justify not here in one single complaint other than that one. it looks bad for you and it is bad given the mirkarimi situation because the only case you have ever heard was against jewell gomez. you voted to recommend that should be removed. the mayor ignored that. how is it going to look when you make a recommendation to the mayor and he chooses to act upon it? the first time you heard a case about official misconduct, other than a politically motivated one. >> the next item is items for future meetings.

>> this goes back to the first or second commission meeting that i ever sat on was this issue of the findings that the commission had made about the chairman of the library. the letter that was sent to the mayor and i do not remember which of the commissioners suggested that maybe an agenda item should be a follow-up to that finding. to the mayor to demonstrate we do not necessarily what it drops in a black hole.

[inaudible] if this commission should take some further action. >> i was going to follow up that item as well but i have a slightly different way of coming at it. i would be -- my suggestion would be that we ask the mayor for his response, ask the mayor to tell us how he has handled the letter that we sent. and i think that maybe something that does not need to await for a future meeting. my question would be, could the commissioners -- the chair sent a letter to the mayor asking that on our behalf so that we

can move more expeditiously, or would it be more prudent to have us look at such a letter at a future meeting? >> you cannot authorize the chair to send the letter in this agenda item. because it is only for -- >> it was not on our agenda for tonight. i would agree with commissioner renne, as i told you. i think we should have some follow-up on that matter.>> any? >> i will discuss it with the city attorney after the meeting. it may be that it is within the authority of the chair to do something like that. >> ok. i have no objection to having it put on the agenda for a future meeting. to request follow-up from the

mayor. any other items? commissioner studley: i am interested in the report from the analyst and i am interested to put discussion of that report on our agenda. at that point, it might be useful companion for the executive director to tell us how he and his staff coordinate with the other cities in california with substantial ethics functions and related roles. he has told us on specific items a number of times about how those -- how the ethics officials and agencies for several california cities take advantage of each other's experience or expertise, share ideas, compare and contrast. i think this seems like something that will be a useful

document for us to review and at the same time, to understand what other comparative activities: because sometimes we have already been the beneficiaries of this. -- beneficiaries of this insights and experiences, and sometimes we have jointly developed solutions to technical or policy issues. >> commissioner hayon: do we want to hear from mr. st. croix? or do we want to read it and see what would be useful? >> it is a good idea.

this budget analyst is here in san francisco. >> he is a private contractor contract by the board. >> ok. i would be happy to invite him. i am not sure what half the budget to pay for his time is what would be -- we have the budget to pay for his time is what would be required. >> who signed this? ok, that is his signature? ok. it is not likely have to pay him to come and talk about the analysis. i would reconsider. if it is possible, i certainly would like to hear from him directly. >> i like that idea. any other agenda items for future meetings? >> i meant to say this earlier.

in the various draft minutes related to the special meetings we have been having, there is a systematic misspelling of sheriff. somebody needs to go through and correct. left out that we knew how to do it. there is a certain list in which is appears that way. i am sorry but better to [inaudible] >> ok. public comment. >> i would think both the commissioners for -- thank both the commissioners for making the motion to put this on a future agenda for the referral regarding jewel gomez. a lot of people have felt it is

kind of not good for your purchase -- your disposition if you make a recommendation and it disappears and that is the end of it. if the mayor wrote a letter and said, i considered to recommendation and decided no, fine. if he writes a letter and take some action, find. but simply to have nothing is not acceptable. i think it is an insult to the commission and i think it puts them in the awkward position of saying we make recommendations and they sometimes just disappear and we do not know what happens to them because occasionally, as has happened a number of times in jewel gomez's case, people will say what happened and your answer is -- that does not reflect well. i did not come here to cause problems, but i do come here to point out areas where i think things are not being handled

properly. when i go to other public meetings, i tell them, my two main concerns here are to ensure that members of the public are free to make meaningful public comment and they're given access to public records which in most cases you need access in order to form a format. a friend went with me to an arts commission meeting and after he recommended they might get some sunshine ordinance training, one of the commissioner said, and my allowed to comment to him? which if they knew the ordinance which he signed he have known td to respond and he said to the man, mr. whatever your name is, i do not know who the hell you think you are but that is a bunch of bullshit and i do not appreciate coming here and being lectured by someone like you.

if that is the response by the board commissioner to public comment, especially of legitimate public comment, it is disgraceful. people have a hard enough time public speaking. it is one of the things people fear most in their life and it is hard enough for citizens of the city to come to a board or commission when they are concerned about an item then address those boards and commissions and to be aware of the fact that members in the auditorium and members on sfgtv are also watching them. to have someone showed a total animosity not only says that message to that individual but it sends a message to every other person in the chamber and every person watching on government television. it's as we did not want your comments, we did not appreciate them, and if you see the wrong thing to us, we will attack you. our response is ok, the

ordinance clearly says members are free to express their opinions, to respond, and i want to thank you for the responses i have gone although i may have not agreed with each one. i respect the fact there were given and it is that give-and- take that really encourages people to participate in government. i think one of the things that i see separately is the fact that many people to not go to boards and commissions because they really do not feel that the board and commissions care about what they say. i have heard them do it. one time in a police commission meeting, they went to item no. 2 and covered a and b and went into closed session for four hours, it made everyone leave the chamber. there were 15 people that came to talk about item number two. after the four hours, they came back, covered agenda item 2c,

and asked for public comment and i was the only one that was left and i said that was not right. i was told by the vice- president, you cannot talk about that. it can only address the substance of the item, you cannot address -- you cannot address how you handle that. i respect the constitution and whenever i see people who are not allowed to comment freely without being discouraged, i will speak out. >> the last item on the agenda is public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda within the jurisdiction of the ethics commission. >> when i joined the navy, i

took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to bear true faith -- true faith and allegiance. one of the interesting things about that later when i left the armed forces examining station, i realized i had lived 20 years of my life, had these liberties granted to me by the constitution, not only in this case of the u.s. but in california, and i had never had to do anything in return. i also realized at that point i was never going to be able to and accountants to put the burden down. polehinke no me by my appearances here and i am not too shy about -- i think you know me by my parents is here and i am not too sure about my parents is. it is my right to do so and i

feel it is my right to do so, petitioning government for redress of grievances. when i see of their careers of the public and they're not given an opportunity to speak, or their comments are disparaged or whatever, i find that totally unacceptable. primarily because in many of those meetings, every member of the commission or board is taken -- has taken an oath to support the constitution of the ninth seat in california. by denying people those rights, they are violating that both in my mind. it is critical that people participate in government. one of the things i have learned in life, none of us is smart as all of us. one of the raises the bay area is such a magnet and such a vibrant and dynamic area is because we have people here who've come, who are free to express themselves, whether it is the technology field or any

other field and i think that shows well. government benefits at all times by being open and not just accepting public comment. so let's have a public comment. we're not just going to allow you to speak, why it to speak. thank you. >> is there a motion to adjourn >> all in favor? opposed? the motion passes. the meeting is adjourned.

>> hello. you're watching the show that explores san francisco's love affair with food. there are at least 18 farmers markets in san francisco alone, providing fresh and affordable to year-round. this is a great resource that does not break the bank. to show just how easy it can be to do just that, we have come up with something called the farmers' market challenge. we find someone who loves to cook, give them $20, and challenge them to create a delicious meal from ingredients found right here in the farmer's market. who did we find for today's challenge?

>> today with regard to made a pot greater thanchapino. >> you only have $20 to spend. >> i know peter it is going to be tough, but i think i can do it. it is a san francisco classic. we are celebrating bay area food. we have nice beautiful plum tomatoes here. we have some beautiful fresh fish here. it will come together beautifully. >> many to cut out all this talk, and let's go shop. yeah. ♪ >> what makes your dish unique? >> i like it spicy and smoky. i will take fresh italian tomatoes and the fresh seafood, and will bring them to other

with some nice spoked paprika and some nice smoked jalapeno peppers. i am going to stew them up and get a nice savory, smoky, fishy, tomatoy, spicy broth. >> bring it on. how are you feeling? >> i feel good. i spent the $20 and have a few pennies less. i am going to go home and cook. i will text message u.n. is done. >> excellent and really looking forward to it. >> today we're going to make the san francisco classic dish invented by italian and portuguese fishermen. it'll be like a nice spaghetti sauce. then we will put in the fish soup. the last thing is the dungeon as crab, let it all blend together. it will be delicious. when i could, i will try to make healthy meals with fresh ingredients, whatever is in

season and local. those juicy, fresh tomatoes will take about an hour to cook down into a nice sauce. this is a good time to make our fish stock. we will take a step that seems like trash and boil it up in water and make a delicious and they speed up my parents were great clerics, and we had wonderful food. family dinners are very important. any chance you can sit down together and have a meal together, it is great communal atmosphere. one of the things i like the most is the opportunity to be creative. hello. anybody with sets their mind to it can cut. always nice to start chopping some vegetables and x and the delicious. all this double in view is this broth with great flavor. but your heart into it. make something that you, family, and friends will really enjoy. >> i am here with a manager at the heart of the city farmer's market in san francisco.

thank you for joining us. tell us a little bit about the organization. >> we're 30 years old now. we started with 14 farmers, and it has grown out to over 80. >> what is the mission of the organization? >> this area has no grocery store spiller it is all mom-and- pop stores. we have this because it is needed. we knew it was needed. and the plaza needed somebody. it was empty. beautiful with city hall in the background. >> thank you for speaking with us. are you on the web? >> yes, hocfarmersmarket.org. >> check them out. thank you. >> welcome. the dish is ready. >> it looks and smells amazing. >> thank you. it was not easy to meet the $20 budget. i checked everybody out and found some great produce.

really lovely seafood. i think that you are going to love it. >> do not be shy. cyou know this can run you $35 to $45 for a bowl, so it is great you did this for $20. >> this will feed four to six people. >> not if you invite me over for dinner. i am ready to dig in. >> i hope you'll love it. >> mmm. >> what do you think? >> i think i am going to need more. perhaps you can have all you want. >> i am produce the that you have crushed this farmer's market challenge by a landslide. the first, we're going to have to tally of your shopping list and see what you actually spend that the farmer's market. >> and go for it. >> incredible. you have shown us how to make

super healthy, refresh chapino from the farmers market on the budget, that for the whole family. that is outstanding. >> thank you peter i am glad that you like it. i think anybody can do it. >> if you like the recipe for this dish, you can e-mail us at sfgtv@sfgov.org or reach out to us on facebook or twitter and we

>> i love teaching. it is such an exhilarating experience when people began to feel their own creativity. >> this really is a place where all people can come and take a class and fill part of the community. this is very enriching as an artist. a lot of folks take these classes and take their digital imagery and turn it into negatives. >> there are not many black and white darkrooms available anymore. that is a really big draw. >> this is a signature piece. this is the bill largest darkroom in the u.s..

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be more creative with it. we let them to be free with them but at the same time, we give them a little bit of direction. >> you can focus in here. >> that was cool. >> if you see that? >> behind the city, behind the houses, behind those hills. the see any more hills? >> these kids are wonderful. they get to explore, they get to see different things. >> we let them explore a little bit. they get their best. if their parents ever ask, we

can learn -- they can say that they learned about the depth of field or the rule of thirds or that the shadows can give a good contrast. some of the things they come up with are fantastic. that is what we're trying to encourage. these kids can bring up the creativity and also the love for photography. >> a lot of people come into my classes and they don't feel like they really are creative and through the process of working and showing them and giving them some tips and ideas. >> this is kind of the best kept secret. you should come on and take a class. we have orientations on most saturdays. this is a really wonderful location and is the real jewel

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