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middle of that discussion. supervisor campos: anything else? >> i understand there were some comments made about how you looked at over votes or how many ballots being cast. i did get an e-mail about some of the concerns. i did look through all of those. they are not needed for this report. it got away from what i was tasked to do it for the report. i was tasked to look at a very analytical point. why are people voting the way they are voting? that gets away from a statistical analysis.
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i did not include that information for that reason. i feel that we addressed what we could given the parameters the commission gave me. i have not had a chance to look at what was presented for the final point. it is always something we could do as a supplemental later on. supervisor campos: in terms of the point that mr. fried was making and you were talking about jurisdictions where they have elections that are tied to statewide offices, do you have any response to that? >> new york city, for example, has september elections and even years and odd years. the election for mayor, for example, there are no federal elections on the ballot. in minnesota, they use september
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elections in odd years. it seems to me including those is comparing apples to apples. in terms of the state primary, all i was suggesting was using the most recent 2012 data because you are already using state primary. you already have said in the report. it stopped at 2010. including 2012, it would make sense. it is the most recent data. you already have a category for statewide primaries. you include the u.s. senate, the governor, and those races. >> we use the primary only as an example. there is nowhere else i use the primary information in our
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report for -- i never looked out over votes in primaries at all. it just looks at primary's in general about 65% of winner- take-all. i could not use september's election if i wanted to keep that formats until i had november's numbers. >> if you think about it with a plurality election, if you compare everyone who votes for the top two, their ballots counted in the final round. everyone else who did not voted for those top two, it is similar to where their ballots has exhausted. it is this ironic thing that everyone is picking out
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exhausted ballots in making a deal at of its and not realizing that all races have exhausted balance. the people whose votes did not go to one of the top two the only have one choice. if you are going to into an analysis, which you only do in the appendix, it makes sense to extend that to other races. you will see these numbers are far higher than they are in contests. supervisor campos: that is a good point. >> what i have struggled with as i have been looking at this on that very item, you have a different electorate and the primary and a different elector it in the general. you cannot guarantee that someone who showed up in the primary, there is no way to go
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back. as someone moves or leaves, they are removed from the system. i cannot go back and analyze how they voted five years ago. you could try to come up with a way, but i struggled with that. there is no way to know but people showed up. if you had 100,000 people show up in june and you had 200,000 people show up in november, you do not know how many of those 100,000 people did not show up in november. i cannot find a good way to do it when i was being cast -- as i was being fair to the numbers. supervisor campos: from my perspective, it is helpful for us to get the information that
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staff has compiled to the relevant agencies. it is something that can form this discussion. i also know that there may be some additional questions along the lines that have been raised that could be included or issues that could be included as a part of the supplemental. my preference, and i defer to colleagues, would be to simply finalize something with the understanding that there will be additional conversations. i know commissioner avalos is very interested in this. i do think that this information is very useful in addressing some of the concerns that have been raised. in some respects, i see the benefit of getting the information out there. supervisor olague: at some
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point, and i know we are not in a position to make this request, but i think it would be great for the department of the elections to have the opportunity to give us feedback on these findings. supervisor campos: that goes to the point that it may be -- the way i see this is that this is a reports that based on feedback we get from the elections commission, from other members of the board of supervisors, there could be something additional that can be presented. i would expect that once something is presented, i wouldn't they would come back to us and ask some questions. >> -- i would hope they would come back to us and ask some questions. >> we can give this report to anyone you wish. i am happy do it.
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we cannot directly say we will come to present to you. they would have to invite us. supervisor campos: i do not know how you want to proceed. this is on the agenda as discussion and dyes and possible action item. -- discussion and a possible action item. if we move to accept this, it does not mean there is not additional supplemental work that cannot be added. is there any motion or recommendation? supervisor olague: i'd like to move that we basically approve this.
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we should use this as an informational piece so that people did to understand the basics of some of the findings. supervisor campos: we have a motion to except the report with the understanding that there would be supplemental work that would be done in conjunction with some of the folks that are here. commissioner shmeltzer: i would second that. it is an informational item and it is useful. all of this, i think, is useful for the public to get to understand better the more discussion and more information there is, the more people start to see different pieces of it. i think it is hard for people to understand all the
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implications. supervisor olague: i think it lends objectivity to the discussion. i think this is a good place to start. supervisor campos: in terms of clarifying what happens. once we accept this, this would be presented to the various agencies that would have some interest in this, whether the elections commission, what else? cut that would be up to you to decide -- >> that would be up to you to decide. i do not know if there is anyone else. supervisor campos: as part of
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accpeting, lafco staff can work with the chair? is that ok? one of the things we should also notes, there may be additional work that is done and additional information provided. , as we have any other comments or thoughts, can we take that motion without objection? i want to thank mr. fried for the workin. the work continues. i also want to thank mr. hill. and the other speakers. the last time we did a report on something, we had a report on the issue of garbage collection. that was also an ongoing effort.
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we put out a report and there was additional information provided. the hope here is that lafco can add to the ongoing discussion. i think it is important to get something out there with the understanding that it is not the end of the analysis. if you could please call item number 5. >> item #5 is public comment. supervisor campos: this is an opportunity for any member of the public to speak on any item that is not on the agenda. item number 6? >> item #6, future agenda items. supervisor campos: future agenda items? >> i wanted to make a quick note that we normally meet on the fourth friday of the month. next month, we will be taking a
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recess. we will be meeting again in september. supervisor campos: by that time, there will have been action. >> that would be my absolute hope, yes. supervisor campos: any member of the public wish to speak on this? >> item #7 is adjournment. supervisor campos: the meeting is a we wish everybody a happy friday and a good weekend. meeting adjourned.
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down in the transit system. the the problem is, there is one area where we are going in the wrong direction. that is larceny. it has to do largely with devices like these where people are not being attentive with devices like these and other people are taking the advantage of that. that is the one area, overall, a good story that we have to tell that is left to be addressed. that is what we are here to talk about today. we are launching an awareness campaign. you will hear from the chief and the commander, being aware of your surroundings. we want to raise awareness for the public, for all of the public in terms of being safe while you're traveling and walking in the street. it is a matter of being aware of your surroundings and trying to
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keep the transportation system safe and enjoyable for everyone. what you see behind us are some posters that are already up. and we can really raise the awareness of folks that you need to be mindful when you are writing in our system. we want everyone to get where they're going on time and efficiently, but we want them to get there safely. and with all of their personal belongings with them. i want to thank you all for coming and i will turn it over to the great chief of police. >> thank you. again, if you look at this artwork, this is almost exactly how it goes. this woman is not paying attention, but somebody else is. he has his ipad, not paying attention, someone else is.
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what we have been telling everyone, i really want to thank the director for his help with this, you have to pay attention to who is around you and who is looking. it seems every time we have a robbery or theft in san francisco, it involves an electronic device. to lose six of these devices a day, it seems like every time we go over the robbery counts, it seems like an electronic devices involved. as ed said, is important to know who is around you, who is paying attention. you can really draw the analogy when you are looking down and not paying attention, it is like taking $300 out of the atm and touting it without paying
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attention. please pay attention to these ads, we really appreciate the media covering this today to get the word out and we appreciate muni. we want everybody to be safe, safe as you move across the city. and we want you to keep your belongings and stay connected. >> just to reinforce that, i encourage anyone to look around and see how many people have their heads down and they're looking at their device, seeing how inattentive they are. you can walk by and accidentally bump people, they are not paying attention. it is easy to get absorbed with the great media we have at our fingertips and block out surroundings. it is dangerous and not worth losing your device or jeopardize in your safety over it.
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the awareness is very important. the main way that we keep the system safe is through our engagement which and the san francisco police department. -- engagement with the san francisco police department. we are lucky that we have one of the best of the command staff working with us right now. she manages the enforcement arm of the mta including the san francisco police officers that work and ride the buses. they are largely responsible to be how to be safe when learning how to ride on the system. >> first of all, i really want
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to thank director for this campaign and putting in j. resources behind it. a little bit of what we do on the mta side of the police department, everybody reports an incident and it comes to us. i read every single related report. it gets disseminated to the district station captains. they look over the constant data and they develop enforcement plans that assist our city in combating crime and incidents on me. -- on muni. we have officers dedicated solely to the mta. they ride in uniforms and plain clothes. we also have k-9 units.
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i can't say more, they do with our transit system. we're down 30% in crime and the transit system. as the director said, the only place where we can do a little bit better are larceny crimes. that is what this campaign really is all about. i don't want to beat a dead horse in terms of reiterating this, but we can't say enough. perhaps don't use the white earbuds. opportunistic people look for those opportunities and no that it means iphone.
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if you lose one of these devices, and do what you can't disconnect your personal information from these devices. if something is taken from you, don't go after the suspect. just look, pay attention, and get as the description as you can and, in 11. he will be there to take this information and after had the suspect. >> a pretty straightforward message, grateful for those of you covering this. they provide to my family and friends, everyone in our system and in our city to make sure
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that they get to where they want to go. they make themselves vulnerable to theft of our system anywhere. will be happy to take questions. thank you all for coming. >> [inaudible] >> i will use an example. just the other day, i was on one of the trains and i got on the trains, it wasn't a very full train. halas of almost 90% of the people were living out at smart phones are electronic devices. what typically happens is, it is an ihpone. -- iphone. the look for the perfect opportunity, snatched the device and away they go.
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the worst thing we can do is engage the perpetrator because that leads to a more serious crime. that is typically what we see. they see the opportunity, they seize it. it cannot give criminal the opportunity. >> [inaudible] >> always, i think we can look at common sense with that and really, anywhere right mirador, for instance. -- near a door, for instance. grabbing the device and exiting the vehicle very quickly. >> would you edifies someone with a smart phone to set elsewhere? >> the middle of the bus would be preferred.
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my other devices to just not use it. why you're not being attentive, you are creating an opportunity. >> [inaudible] >> as a matter of fact, last week we had a cellphone that was the lead with gps on that. we tracked the phone, got the suspect, and many other items of stolen property in the car that he was arrested and. the car itself had been boosted, there was a license plate crime. he pretty good case started with the cell phone gps that was trackable. >> if i have a cellphone with gps that is stolen -- >> as best as we can.
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if we have the staffing available, we are about catching bad guys. >> of the recovery rate of these devices is not good. if you lose your device, you have lost your device. i mean, it is whatever the market will bear. these are a commodity that are traded. being used, the person that was the owner of the phone could tell that it was taken from them and in use. they do that in australia and we're working to see if we can get something like that locally.
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