permit was approved and issued. it was not taken to the site. what is the practical affect of that? it is not as if the permit had been held up for approved -- or not approved? >> it had been approved in march. there was an oversight with park and rec that got a knowledge that they did not pick it up. the plans were already seen and approved. someone did not pay to pick up a permanenit and get it in the st. >> there was no impact on the project? >> i think there was some work that got done because of the issue of the permit. >> having signed off on it? >> it is not something we

encourage. we prefer people to get it, and it helped, because of the process had not been done right, 15 days might have been gone. in how the appeal because the permit did not get issued -- it helped the appeal because the permit did not get issued until july. if it had been done right this should have been issued around the start of march. >> technically, until it is actually issued, it is not a permit. >> exactly, it is a permit application but not a permit. >> the complete review had already occurred. it was ready to be issued in march. >> it had gone through the planning department, and the other departments were still going through the review with a

different city agencies with other permits. >> thanks. >> ready? >> yes. the permit holders brief wrote it down, and i am in agreement with how they broke it down into three major components of the appeal, and i am in agreement that certain planning issues that have been raised on the environmental phase and the project review basis is not appealable to this particular body in general. it is always interesting.

there is a little bit of a gray area in terms of what has been entitled in planning versus what becomes part of of building permit. in general i wouldn't agree that many issues -- i would agree that many issues are best addressed in a different form than this particular body. the other issue relates to the building permit itself, and the third deals with 88 issues that were raised region -- with ada issues that were raised. it is extremely difficult. based upon what i saw in the

document and read, i am in concurrence they are in conformance with ada code in specific code and in determination. the last part dealing with the permit itself i think is a little more cloudy because work was started without a permit, and if they picked it up in march, this would have happened already. therefore there would be no impact on construction. i would not quite call it oversight, but it has very little impact on the nature of the appeal itself and the nature of construction. special inspections are going to

occur with elements that have not been touched yet, so i do not see it having any impact. therefore, i am in support of upholding the permanenit. >> i would echo those comments. i think it is good to have this process. i think it is frustrating for a community that wants to have this go forward, but that is why we are here. i think the concerns need to be heard. tonight i wanted to be satisfied that the issue was resolved and that is a non issue. and there were other concerns raised about the work done without the technical compliance.

i am not concerned, given that it is a non-material, an issue that has no impact on the work other than delaying the work through this appeal as well as the site of special inspection, so my inclination would be to uphold a permit. >> i agree with fellow commissioners. i do not have anything else sudato add other than to say i m also very glad we have this forum and that people are able to participate, and i would encourage the community to continue to be actively involved and something that is so special to the neighborhood and has brought such a passionate new points on all sides, and i encourage you to continue to participate in the process, because we all have a stake in the beauty of this city and parks and open spaces,

so thank you for being here. >> i am going to move to uphold the permanenit based upon the ft that is code compliance. -- compliant. >> we have a motion from the vice president to deny this appeal and uphold the permit on the basis that it is code compliance. on that motion -- [calling votes] the vote is 4-0.

this is upheld. >> there is no further business before the board. >> we are adjourned.

>> i called the meeting of the

public utilities commission to order. 7m7m>> one housekeeping item, we have an item on the closed session. there will be no need for that. there will be no closed session at the end of this meeting. commissioners, you have before you the minutes of july 24 meeting. thank you have any amendments or a motion? >> move to approve. >> all those in favor? the item carries unanimously. ladies and gentlemen, this would be the time for public comment on any item that is not on the commission today. i have a bunch of cards.

j]j]0z>> [inaudible] >> good afternoon. when i was here last, i made a request and i do not know how that is coming because i do not get your notification. what is happening in bayview hunters point with the sewage, we are having a lot of leakages, overflowing of raw sewage going down the streets in the public housing of their. -- over there. it is very sad that people have to live in those conditions.

most of those conditions, when houses were built back in the '50s, nothing new was put in. now i hear that people are stealing the pipes. they are being stolen. we also -- i have a concern, when we were promised those broken things for going to be fixed 10 years ago, they never got fixed. you all have been meeting on it. it is sad that we have to continue to smell the stench, which is unnecessary. i know you all can do better.

i know you can make sure that they start putting in those things that go down into the ground. making sure the contractors deal with the local hiring in our community. we want to make sure everything is done correctly for the first time in 50 years ago. it was 50 years ago when they put the first sewage plant over there. we did not know we had a voice at the time. we just took your word that you would do the right thing. i am talking about the city would do the right thing. the city has not done the right thing at all for anything that it had promised those of us.

let's start doing something for the people. not wait another year or two to do it. do it now. i want to make sure i do not smell nothing on my 80th birthday, which is going to be february 9. i do not want to smell that stuff. thank you. president moran: thank you. i understand you have several people with you here today. >> i have several people here today. sfpuc projects. the time has, to give opportunities for young peoples. they can do any type of work. ++it is very diffic.

poison ivy, working in very hot conditions. what i am here to state to you -- some of you represent the unions, some of you have worked with the unions. when it comes to t

all of you heads of departments can do nothing to stop the violence. this is serious. i have three members of the community response over here. whenever someone is shot and killed, they go and do the preliminary work. not the police. the police rely on them. that is where it stops. i am fortunate that the manager of the sfpuc and some others were capable of helping us, help us. they help us in directly. the time has come to help us directly. to give us jobs for 18 months or

two months so that i can stop this violence -- a month or eightwo months. there is a feud between segments of the population. we just put a lid on the situation. if that situation air drops, it is on the city. it so happens -- erupts , it is on the city. please stand up to address this issue. police standout said they know who you are. +b7mé/k-- please stand up so tw who you are. thank you very much. president moran: thank you.

>> i am from district 10. he has been fighting hard to give us jobs out here. i used to do my fair share in the streets. i'm grown now, i have three children. i am out there working in this heat. the project there is no more work. unemployment is unbelievable. it is even hard to get that. we need jobs. that is what we really need. we need jobs. añíxé=u coming in full force. i have 100,000 polynesian standing here in front.

i am the one who started the movement. my people need jobs. and nobody looking out for us, not the polynesian community. we have all these other groups to help every other group except for my samoan community. j['nucwwe need jobs. we are ready. we are ready to work. we need jobs. that is it, ladies and gentlemen. president moran: thank you. >> we are working 10-hour days. [inaudible]

working out there with rattlesnakes and spiders and everything. i've been staying out of trouble, working with francisco. ñwe do not have jobs long enoug, just one year. we had a job up in the mountains for about a month. it is not long enough. we're just trying to stay out of trouble. we need jobs for the community. all you see every day is shootings, keep the kids out of trouble. they're trying to do what they can do. can do. the police, all they're tryin