that we have respondedrñ. >> well, we have, right? >> i am talking about us, commissioners. >> this afternoon we havepa a meeting. on the sixth floor. >>íg- .g÷ a meeting. you are more than welcome to come. /jt &e%ei the debate. >> what time is the meeting? >> 3:30 i have been easy questin about the tablets. i think it is wonderful that we ñrare moving to tablets staff. my basic question is, who is going to be developing the programs÷ñ for the tablets -- r the employees to use? will it be our own staff, hiring someone from the purchasing something?

>>k the program that already exist, we have to g ;4ñ8í÷fema3mw had a free -- we r taxes, i guess, not really free. they have some programs available. acela has some products that they are developing specialized for us. to the extent that there are uk, we do have some application staff that can write certain things. is a mixture. w i bring that up because i know we are spending a lot of money on technology. lvvp'%3÷ understanding of who will actually be working on developing th%ha)ograms and stufxvuuch. >> initially, in terms of what was available for underlying

program that would work with -- ua@the operating system that wod work;n÷ with the fema program limited us in terms of what kind of tablet. then you have the operating limits limiting you from other things. we hope that they will be dynamic, the vendor they have extended things so that you can use it on an apple, android. oaxqwhat we are stuck with righw is oracle. we are hoping that this other stuff will be much easier. >> i have a few words i wanted

to report. you received my he knelt on the starting time on august 97. -- e-mail on the starting time on august 27. we are meeting at 7:30 to help small homeowners and contractors pickup their contracts. then we will open up the whole building, except other departments, as they may not be open at the same time, like planning,xd pucñr. fire may be open but we need to talk with them. second item is regarding the code discussion. we haveñr had a problem before.

if anything needs to come back to the advism'ñ committee to make any changes in the code for fámay issue an information sheet to the staff. " also, os week, august 7,s avenue, [unintelligible] thatú director, acting deputy director lowry,s officer, -kqother inspectors and

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ñrhopefully, when he comes back, we can gather everyone together. llñri wanted a complete semin, instead of piecemeal. khrhe is the only one that is certified. also, training in]aa october, to classes regarding the ada update. we will also try to get training on the inspector and engineer. >> how manyw3 employees will be taking the disability accreditation classes? >> we are trying to train all of them. it is about $1,000 to take the exam. >> do we have an idea of getting

more people trained for that? we only have one now. >> we have one that took the exam -- two that took the exam. ñrwe're waiting for the results. i believe one of them should be in soon. q requirementuzq? state law requires that we have a certain number of that are certified by a certain date. b í&ñ>> i do not have the exact date, but previously, we mentioned the time frame, how many we need to get. that is why we try to get more training for the exam. ñrright now, we are meeting the requirement. >> i seem to remember that they take in in 2013. a significant number.

i do not remember what that maybe the city attorney caní zfl us next time what it is. >> john malamut, vñbsince this m is not on the agenda, maybe as part of the next item on future agendas, we could talk about adding this. >>ki newly noted appeared justo seeñr that if we are in compliance. ok. -- duly noted. just to see if we are in compliance. >> is the public comment on items 6a through d? z@simenon, item seven, >> commissioners? >> notwithstanding the fact that sometimes people are their own

worst advocates when they say crazy thingsg7i have a better understanding as a policy body of what our hiring [eñpractices are and how we;sz y law practices. the city espouses equal opportunity principles and hiring and i would really like to make sure that as a department we are doing that. in the context that this department has been sued recently as an employee who felt, as a woman, was mistreated, and that other departments have been sued recently and settled -- large dollari" amounts for their hirig practices and for not following thew3 law. i do not want to be put in that position as a commission.

a newoo not want this to be under our what. ÷pi would like to be able to defend our practices in a way that is justifiable, spout off numbers and percentages and 0.2 policies and procedures and dueo2÷ diligence that had been e by the department. i want to be able to say that with a straight face. perhaps, in the next meeting, we can have a presentation about i÷ywhat we're doing, how we are doingq,k it, the role of h.r.lxn guiding us. defend it. >> i would concurowj with that request. just to add, i think it should e5be a joint presentation by h.. i know a lot of the process, we

work with them because of civil service. cojust to get a better understanding of how they come up with their list, the testing ñrprocess, and all of that. have akaw more thorough report. recent ylj, maybe promotionsw i guess it is about postings of new hiresñr, even promotions, things like that. >> i would like to be assured that we are not just meeting the u$e law. once folksiare hired in the department, they become part of a culture. we are under no illusion that we live in a perfect world. peopleñrxdr with prejudices', things that just happen7b to be in oursnz

society. diversity training, are we helping our employees function inctñ a department that is inclusive and welcomingiñw haóa those best practices in a jar that other departments have? i would really like to understand that. that is pertinent to how folks feel about their jobs, but also about)]q>> to weigh in thei=oçre? with h.r. in coming up with a presentation. as you mentioned, commssioner is following civil servicejñv rs and therefore dhr is in trouble

in these processes. we're looking forward to coming backx in theseo were looking for to coming back in september. thisñr is an internalékp ml with staff, and yes, we are still going around in circles on what time. commissioner walker: i support this conversation. i think it will be helpful to all of us. i would also like to ask the city attorney about what would happen when complaints are presented to us. what do we do? do you take them? that are presented in public comment? because there is an allegation hanging out their.

and i do not want to do nothing with it. >> john malamut, city attorney's office. áthe city attorney's office represents the city through the appointed boards and commissions and elected officialsxlj city departments. so, we don't respond affirmatively to allegations that are made at public meetings jj of the public. if, on the other hand, the dbi director approached our office to discuss a matter likezu thar a commissioner did, then we would go to the director or the commissioner in that way. we are also involved to some extent with complaints, and these are the ways the public -- éqfif it were largely a complete

about the city, our office would get involved -- a complaint about the city, our office would get involved. but generally not from public comment. commissioner walker: generally, i think this deserves looking into. i am not saying whether it is valid or not. but any allegations like that r by somebody. we dosy not have the capacity to doñ] it as a commission. so, i am not certain how to proceed. ñrcommssioner mar:ñrcj and thiss ñianother point i wanted to raie about this issue. department is represented by variousv. unions, i feel likeqa way they are partners with us, or should be partners with us in resolving these problems. so, i alsom -- and maybe, aga,

we need the city attorney's advice on it. what is inappropriate -- what is appropriate -- how should the commission in call them? these allegations come at us, but it is not ju /union at bing. it should be our work force is represented by various unions. i think the unions have to be involved. s acknowledgment@yy on theirkn pat that they also want to deal with it. because they cross over, you who they represent affects our workers. so, i do not see these problems as just worker management problems.

i feel a little comfortableo3z t having h.r. involved. they should helpicñ us resolve these problems. commissioner mccarthy: ok. is there any more questions or comments? >> any commissioner -- >> surry. t(i wanted to say one more thin. i would appreciate an understanding of our process for hiring of permanent director. i am puzzled that no one said anything. i would appreciate if somebody --ñr part of what we are doing,o make sure we have a thorough search of. i know it isñr the ñrmayor's hi- commissioner walker: it is our

higher. fá>> yes. i would like some idea of what we are doing. commissioner walker: how about an agenda item at the meeting? >> at this time,xd the commissin may discuss to take action on the state of the official ut on the agenda of the next meeting for future meetings of the building commission. the next bic +qnmeeting is on december 19. it seemsñr like there have already been a couple of agenda itemsñr proposed. i would support those. i want to make sure we also legendize -- agendize this ability accessxd on the insertin of additional paths inspectors. also, just to that members of

the board of supervisors know who weighed in on this issue. if we --ñr agendize those llpitems, to ameliorate some of the problems that small business may be facing. so, we are going to agendize it. çkdcommissioner lee: i want to d on the matter that commssioner mar just mentioned, i would like to know what the roles are of these past inspectors? exs from these inspectorsñi? u"zmeaning, can the public apprh them to ask questions? from this?

-- what can the general public get from this? commissioner mccarthy: we did have a meeting about this. we had testimony here. just a clarification. commssioner mar, are you talking about the programñr or small businesses as a rule and the frustration they have doing business here, or -- commssioner mar: i think it is a continuation of the same agenda we should also clarify the roles of the inspectors. kwbecause we're in compliance . we may not be very soon. we need more inspectors, but i think commissioner lee also

raised a good point. members of the public do not know what toñrxd expect from the inspectors. we have one now. if we get two more, 3, how can small business people use them? they don't know. commissioner mccarthy: correct me if i am wrong. director, maybe you can talk about this, but what the commissioners are asking is how long before we are up to full speed withñr the inspectors? what is the game plan with regard to letting the public knowñr about the inspectors? what kind of access have we? ñrcan we have a counter that a couple times a week is dedicated to these kinds of questions? that kind of thing. along with all the,qr'gs coming yes. >> if there is no further

commissioner,, is there any public comment on items 7a and 7b. q(ñsimenon, item eight, review d approval of the minutes of commission meeting april 18, 2012. ñrall in favor? is there any public comment? the minutes are approved. item 9, review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of may 16, 2012. >>5g move to approve. >> second. >> are all commissioners in favor? in the post?is there any public? -- any opposed? the minutesñi are approved. review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of june 20, 2012. >> move to approve.

>> second. >> is there any public comment? commissioners in favor of approving the minutes? i"ñany opposed? the minutes are approved. gcommissioner walker: can i also thank you for catching up? we have been far behind. it has been a tedious job. thank you, sonya. >> and thank ann, too. >> and thank you,ñr ann, wherevr you are. >> is there a motion to adjourn? >> so moved. >> any opposed? we're now adjourned. is 11:10 a.m. wfb-- it is 11:10 a.m.

>> we would please ask so that we can proceed as efficiently as possible. -- we would please ask that you take secondary conversations outside so that we can proceed as efficiently as possible. unless otherwise announced, each person will have three minutes for public comment on each item. please address your comments to the item being heard. if you would like to speak under general public comment, those are items 4 and 11 on the edge of a peer lastly, in order to allow equal time for all, neither the commission or staff %?yu%

closed. we are an item two, president's report. >> thank you. i will be brief. first and foremost, item nine has been pulled from the calendar. anyone here for item 9, it will not be heard. there is no longer an appeal. just a couple of items. first, i want to thank the rec and park staff for all the work that has gone into making the marina ready for the america's cup races. i think that this is the first time such an event will be seen from shore, and there was a lot of coordinating to do and a lot of demands made of staff to make this happen. i know that firsthand, and i want to congratulate you on that front. i want to remind everyone that we now have a designation,

proposition b, park bond issue that will be on the november ballot. it will affect every neighborhood and improve every neighborhood in one fashion or another. we are looking for support and volunteers, fans, and so let us know if you would like to help us get that bond past. another congratulations to the staff. genuinely, more people stop me to tell me how much their children are enjoying the summer camps this year. whatever you are doing out there, you are making a lot of parents very happy and a lot of kids very, very happy. with that, that will conclude my brief remarks, and i will move on with the agenda. >> is there public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. we are on item 3, the general managers' report. >> thank you, commissioners.

this saturday at 11:00 in the morning, our department invites all of you and the public to balboa park for a celebration event marking the completion of a $3.5 million renovation. the trust for public land has proven to be an incredible partner of ours, helping to renovate and revitalize three parks in our city. the next big milestone will be both decker playground in the tenderloin -- bo decker playground. i invite everyone out this saturday to cut a ribbon and help celebrate. sunday, august 26, ping-pong -- as part of sunday street in chinatown, the city and chinatown community will host the second annual chinatown ping-pong tournament. those of you who consider yourselves experts or those of you whoar