i'm not really qualified to kind of dissect all the different problems it has. i think one of the problems that i did feel was a stumbling point that i feel could be addressed would be to kind of understand how we can get a better plan than shell. i don't think we are in a good place with this project. i understand they are the only ones who present it and qualified but i think it is really important to do better. i don't think it is going to be successful or popular or widely adopted or a good model for follow-on procedures if we don't take the time to get it right now. there are several ways that could be done. one of the first is to enlist and adopt some of the community-based

initiatives in place. work with some of the power producing groups, some of the private enterprises. i just think handing everything over to shell is a prescription for disaster, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, i'm katherine roberts. i am a small rental property owner in district five. i remember eight years ago when then supervisor mirkarimi got elected. i recently purchased my building, telling him it would take $30,000 give or take to put solar panels on the roof. i really wanted. i pay the utilities for the whole building because the way it is metered, my bills are extremely high. he said i would hold off because we will probably have community choice aggregation before the end of the year. then the next time he got re-elected i asked him again should i get solar

panels. he gave me the same answer. so this clearly has been going on for a long time. i can't afford 30-plus thousand for solar panels. there are new models where you can loose but you need a higher credit score than the credit score i have. even just to pay to rent them would be more expensive, then i would only be renting them. i'm interested in the city getting some kind of program where if i pay -- i'm sure i would be paying probably the higher rate because i pay the bills for the whole building. could be 25, 30 a month. that would be a lot more affordable than 30,000 for the panels. i want you to do all the outreach you have been talking about. multilingual, take care of people on the care program and pg&e now so they don't suffer anymore >>clerk: councilmember knapp?ly because of the

switch over. i would be very interested in finding another provider, making the contract with shell short-term or doing because i have the same qualms about shell everybody else does, at least as strong, maybe stronger than what has been expressed. so if that is a temporary -- if that is something that could be improved in the short term that would be great. >> thank you. david s*edker, jacquelyn swim, michael sambrano, walter -- >> hello, supervisors and represents. my name is chris ettinger. i'm here representing the sierra club, citizen's climate lobby. i think the sf power initiative is a tremendous opportunity to do something affirmative, to address this climate change crisis and really set an example for other municipalities

around the country. i think other municipalities are looking to do similar things. we need to get the ball rolling and build up the momentum. this is what needs to be done. i think the clean power sf is a good vehicle for that. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> thank you. my name is al winerup, with the clean energy alliance, bay area. how many people decide to have a child based on the first six months of his life and for getting about the rest? you know, this legislation is not about 30 megawatts but the entire clean power sf program. it states very clearly this is just a kick-off of a much broader kind of program. 30 megawatts, we know 400

is residential and another twice that, another 400 is commercial. we are talking about 20 to 30 megawatts out of an 800 megawatt program. that program will generate jobs, jobs, jobs. without people working there are no consumers. no one to worry about consumer questions when there are no jobs. this is an economic program. it is kick-started by a very, very small piece. that is not the legislation we are talking about. the legislation we are talking about is the entire program. not just the first 30 megawatts. no one will go into this unless there is 770 megawatts. it is all economic development, job, greenhouse gas reduction, democrat control of our energy system, the things that will put san francisco back on the map as the city

that is moving forward. >> thank you, next speaker. >> ♪ you ask how much we need clean power, must i explain. we need all my city like roses need rain ♪ i will tell you until we are green and blue until the 12th of never, we will be needing you ♪ hold it close, never let the clean power go ♪ hold it close, meld the budget like puc ♪ and i love you and need you until the blue bells forget to bloom ♪ will need you even if the budget had met its doom ♪ will need you

the city and i will tell you green and blue ♪ until the 12th of city never and that's a long, long time ♪ until the 12th of never, and that's a long, long time ♪ maybe give us a dime and down the road i look and there runs budget mary ♪ and she got lots of gold and i know she cares about me ♪ it is good to touch the city green, green grass ♪ of home ♪ >> thank you. [applause] >> will lowery, isabell, eric brooks, joshua, john weiss, june brasheres. >> good afternoon, my name

is jacquelyn flynn, the executive director of the a. phillip randolf institute in san francisco. i first would like to thank ed harrington, all the service he's given to the puc. i thank them for their presentation. i think it is a lot of information to digest. i am here, and i would like to say we are here. i have folks with me. on behalf of communities and residents we serve. i appreciate the questions that the board has asked. the puc, as well as the controller's office. i thank you for your service because i believe you are the front line protection for our communities. i would like to voice a few concerns i have. i have been in conversation with people around the issues that i thought of as i read through both presentation as well as controller's report. but i would like to ask that you consider the

families that struggle to make ends meet and consider the parents that work hard to keep a roof over their head and lights on and the families they have warm and safe here in san francisco. i would like you consider the parents that hold full-time jobs and take classes at city college to provide a better life for their children and raise families in this beautiful city. there's disabled seniors, on fixed incomes and immigrants that have found a home in this city. i would like to make sure we keep it affordable for them. and paying just a little more could end up costing folks a lot. there are a few points i would like to make. we support clean energy and support a clean energy program that provides jobs and community benefits. we are here to learn about more, about how this program will work in san francisco and the concerns we have is with shell being the company it is, there are surrounding questions but also the number of jobs

this would actually create, the roadway opportunities it would create. in closing i say we support clean energy. >> thank you. next speaker. i'm david zefger. i want to speak about clean power sf. it is about choice. as a resident of one of the 40 unit buildings that is separately metered, i don't have the option of putting solar on my roof because i don't owen my roof. however i want to sleep at night, knowing my electricity use isn't contributing to global warming. i feel this offers that opportunity. i want to address the issue of opting out. as a pg&e customer i had to opt out of being on the smart meter program. opting out ones that big a deal. i didn't have that much trouble understanding it, knowing how it worked and i trust the san francisco

p.u.c. to make opting out of this as easy as i trust pg&e to make it easy for me to opt out of the smart meter program, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. henri wong. i'm a recent resident of san francisco. one of the reasons i decided to move to this city is things like clean power sf, which i'm strongly in favor of. as at least one representative of young people of my generation, i hope to speak for many like minded folks. climate issues are the issues of my generation. so it really weighs on me as i think about my own future. when i have this choice of choosing clean energy when i'm given a pg&e bill i didn't have a choice in getting, it really makes me think that this is a

forward-thinking city and a place i want to be in. so i want to just emphasize there are a lot of details. of course no legislation is perfect. of course not. despite the flaws clean power is the way to move forward. if you think about it and its place in this greater role, as your role here as government and role in our future, i think clean power sf is the way to go, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, second readings, thanks for the opportunity to speak with you. my name is john weiss. i operator a nonprofit technology mentoring program in bay view, hunter's point. we are creating the future workers for the new energy economy. we teach people in the projects how to do solar energy installations and electric vehicle repair and

bicycle repair. i strongly support clean energy in san francisco. i think that the city of san francisco has the responsibility to uphold and continue its reputation as a clean city. i think that the -- whatever criticisms there may be of this proposal, i would urge the supervisors to work with the architects of the proposal to resolve those criticisms, particularly to ensure that low income people are not negatively affected. so whether this proposal is the final answer or a kick-off, that is for the supporters and supervisors to work out but please do everything in your power as soon as possible to ensure that san francisco continues to grow and be at the forefront of clean

energy in america. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, june brashears with the local clean energy alliance. i want to thank the sfs public utility commission and general manager harrington, supervisor campos, everybody who's worked so hard to getting us to this point of moving this clean power sf forward. as supervisor campos mentioned, it is not as ambitious and fully initially launching a build-out as a level that some of us had wanted but do see that this is the time to move forward and the only way we will get there. it will allow us to initiate the launch. our work not done but that will allow us to move forward to look at the programs that will get us the build-out and energy efficiency programs we need to meet our environmental goals in san francisco. through the community voice program we can have

programs like a tariff, the policy that got germany to go number one in solar, using a market mechanism we can only get to by using a cca in san francisco. that is the only way we will get to the jobs we are talking about. the clean energy alliance that did an analysis on jobs. we are looking at the renewal energy, about 1,000 jobs. this is how we get to job development in the city. there isn't another path. this is the pathway, this is the way we can move forward. i have heard a lot about choice. i was automatically enrolled in pg&e. i had no way to opt out, no matter how i scanned my mailbox or who i found, i had to too for their too risky, too costly program a long time that is risky for the most vulnerable in our society, the children and all the low income communities we have heard from that aren't paying

rate increases of pg&e with no option out and pg&e goes to fear mongering to keep a lock on the community. this needs to be addressed. this is the way. >> thank you, next speaker. >> hello, i'm will lowery, i'm with the sierra club. i'm a san francisco native who's lived here my whole life and starting a family here. that is my son, ki and wife isabella. i have an 8-month-old baby, as you see. i'm here to support his health and health of his generation and future generations on this planet. i have a letter, which i will submit afterwards, here it is. it is very important you strongly support approval of the clean sf program. this will create the foundation for hundreds of megawatts of local renewables and efficiency in thousands. the sfpuc and supervisor david campos in dialogue with community advocates of clean energy and green jobs have put forward the board of supervisors the clean

power program that would engage 30 megawatt start-up to prime the pump for unprecedented in-city build-out of renewable resources. previously a number of us wrote to you stating that -- i will read below. the gle ball crisis of collapse demands all communities rebuild local infrastructure on rock-solid foundation of strongly localized, strongly and renewable electricity and energy efficiency through employing large and able workforce required to construct and install that infrastructure within the next decade. worsening and extreme weather conditions and wildfires in the u.s. and high unemployment rates in california and nationwide have made it clear san francisco will take a strong leadership role in putting our community to work and replace outdated fossil fuel with locally installed clean power as rapidly as possible. it is vital you strongly

support this legislation. we have a broad range of support from environmental, xhaounlt and labor group. sierra, green peace, local exchange *, clean energy alliance, post carbon, bay localize, defense project, sf green, our seniors action, panthers, advocate.org, andrews and andrews, clean coalition, venl heights -- >> thank you. >> haight ash bury, wild and the san francisco newspaper and the bay view boom. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> that was very fast reading. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, i'm ms. vila. this is ki. i'm here to support green power. the things i will be really happy to pay more for my energy bill. i don't have a lot of money.

why, because i will be doing it for my son, for his future. i'm speaking long-term. unless you think climate change is a joke you will agree we need 100% renewable energy now. this will bring 100% renewable energy so iinger you to adopt this program. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. eric brooks, representing san francisco green party and local grassroots, our city. man, has it been a long ride and long road since 1999 when tom ammiano started this and we are finally getting it off the ground. the main thing i want to do is thank supervisors kim, chu and especially supervisor ferl for the

tough questions. * some of my colleague also grumble under their breath what is ferl doing, complaining about this program? i think what you are doing is actually vital to this program. the grassroots and environmental community groups you just heard that are supporting this program are supporting it because we are going to build, because the shell contract is a kick-start for the next five years of building 100 megawatts of renewables and efficiencies, putting 4,000 a year to work doing that and creating a boom for our economy, not a bust. if we were to roll out at the beginning of next year an expensive program that the rates are wrong and scary to customers or if we were to roll out a program without making clear what they were getting into, that would make clean energy incredibly unpopular. we do not want to see that

happen. so it is because supervisor ferl you are asking the right questions that we are going to get a god program. i would reiterate what staff said, which is if we get to rate-setting time next year and this program doesn't look good, believe me, the coalition pushing clean power sf will be ringing your phone first, supervisor ferl. saying you know what? we should bring rate-seting to board and put a hold on this until it is ready to go. we do not want a bad program to roll out and make clean energy look bad. that is where it is at. actually i appreciate your tough questions. thanks. >> thank you. stacy renecius, anglo king, even nguyen, cd workman, michelle meyers. >> good afternoon, my name is brook turner with coalition for better housing. although cdh certainly supports clean energy, we have a few concerns about

this legislation. first of all, the opt-out provision is always a bad one, in our mind. it would be much better for us if we were able to opt in. regardless of the efforts to get the word out, i think property owners of any kind in san francisco, some of which will be caught not knowing or not aware of the fact that they have opted in by not opting out. regardless what i understand is that the owners are going to pay more. they pay more as per mr. egan's brown pg&e tax. if they don't opt in. our concern is there is no provision for owners that have a single meter to pass through any cost whatsoever of their energy. just like water if it is a

single meter onto tenants. not that that pass through, so to speak, is for recouping the cost but it motivates people to use less. as was discussed during this hearing the price of energy and water is important to the end user deciding how much they will use. we'd like to see a small portion of the increase required by this able to be passed on to tenants. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors, joshua arsa with bright line. i want to say i think you have learned through this process, it's been a long road. a lot of us have worked on this a long time. work by supervisor campos, puc, lafco advocates, a lot of folks in the room.

let's recognize the goals. we have a plan to be in a 100% clean energy city. it is a goal we have task forces come around. that concept and how to get there. this is a pathway through this program. another benefit is you look at that. was slashed and already run out of money. this is a way to get money back into this, which i think is a good thing too. there was talk about jobs, obviously. jobs may not be there on the front end but there is a path to get there and to get to jobs. that is a component of this plan. so the other hat -- i wear a hat as a new member of the commission on environment. we have our very talented staff, director and staff here who i was reminded that we have an outreach team at san francisco

department of environment. it is called the environment now. it is bilingual, might be a way to tap into the outreach in a multilingual way and maybe save some of the money dedicated to consultants instead get into worker's hands. i just want to say monday the policy committee of commission on environment, we passed a resolution supporting program. >> thank you. >> if i may, madam chair, i wanted to ask a followup question. in terms of -- can you just briefly talk a bit about the reasoning why the -- there was that support. >> yes, supervisor. the commission i have been on a week, two weeks maybe, week and a half, there had been a longstanding goal of getting to a 100% clean city at the department, at the commission. a program like this has been long-stated as a way to get there, 100% clean energy. we looked. i don't know all the

history. i see fellow commissioner king to el laoum nate a little. we also highlighted it is a goal to create jobs. we think within this it may take time but those were 10%. approximate >> thank you for your two weeks of service so far. >> hello, supervisors. stacy renexis. i'm a san francisco native and lifelong entrepreneur. my companies, dan lynn solar corporation and power trees services have constructed over 20 megawatts of solar, including over a megawatt of solar for tenant occupied properties here in san francisco serving over 1,000 so far. i urge you to support clean power. it is a terrific market demand generator. i can tell you directly

being the person directly employing and hiring people that this program will generate jobs, opportunity and will help clean our environment and combat climate change. we are presently constructing over five megawatts of energy storage within the city of san francisco. and have over 10 multiunit buildings presently committed to supporting electric vehicle charging and additional solar. we do look forward to opportunities with the clean power sf program to help enhance that and grow that further. that is one example of the kinds of opportunities that can be brought to this city as a result of this kind of program being on the horizon. i do encourage you to approve it and move it forward, thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors, i'm dee dee workman with the san francisco chamber of

commerce and a resident of district nine, pg&e rate payer, representing over 1,500 local businesses and resident owners and employees. we are very concerned about the impacts of the clean power sf program on san francisco businesses, residents and the local community. community choice aggregation was originally designed to inject competition and generation of electrical power. the goals were to drive prices down, maintain rate stability, provide over half the power load from renewable sources and find a supplier for a long-term contract. this contract ensures none of those goals. rates for electricity charges will increase. this is a short-term contract that creates no green power, results in net loss of jobs in san francisco. all the liability rests with the taxpayers. while it is well intended and we appreciate the hard

work that's gone into this we feel like it is not ready to go. and clean power san francisco does not represent or reflect goals of community choice aggregation program. the san francisco chamber of commerce urges you to table this item and send this back to the sfpuc, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. good afternoon, even nguyen, director of the san francisco energy cooperative. we are a brand-new organization that started up aimed at community ownership of green power, funding green power on community buildings. we are a membership organization. the reason why members support us is because they believe in movement from grass roots and every little bit makes a difference. you guys are politicians, you know the politicks in many ways is the art of possible. this is not perfect, not everything we want out