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>> please rise for the pledge of allegiance.

>> mr. president i would like to call roll, please. >> president mazzucco? >> present. vice president marshall. >> he is in route, i can see that he has tried to contact me twice. >> commissioner dejesus? >> excused. >> commissioner chan? >> present. >> commissioner kingsley. >> present. >> commissioner oftus is in route. and with us tonight is the chief of please and the director of the fcc. >> thank you, and welcome to the september 19th. san francisco police commission meeting, please call line item number one. general public comment. >> the public is now welcome to address the commission on items that do not appear in the agenda but are in the subject matter of the commission. the speaker shall address to

the commission as a whole and not to individual commission. under the police commission rules of order during the public comment, commissioners are not to respond to the public or make a right of response. the police and personnel should refrain from entering into discussions during the public comment. please limit your comment to three minutes. >> public comments? >> san francisco, open government. on the overhead, i sent you the copy of the constitution of the united states which i feels compels to bring this to a

commission meeting. members of the public who are listening, this is a copy of the current agenda and as you see, there it says as most city agendas do, know your rights under the sunshine ordinance. what we have here is an order of determination, dated march 1, 2011 against the police commission. and i will read it in part. findings of fact (inaudible) law, judging from the testimony and evidence presented (inaudible) comments to the commission constituted criticism protected by 67-15 d. and the commission abridged that in violation of the same. i say that because i knew it wouldn't be unusual to have the same thing happen again and last week at this meeting you did the same damn thing you did

at that meeting. you rearranged your agenda moving public comment to the third item. and as a result a number of people whose names i got were forced to leave without leaving public comment because they had timed their attendance to the agenda that you had sent out saying that the public comment would be the first actual item on the agenda. this is nothing but manipulation in an effort to cut down public comment. i think that you guys sit up there and you see people and if you see a lot of people and you don't want to hear public comment, you just simply rearrange the agenda without any reason and force people into not being able to comment. when this happened to me, i tried to make a comment about it and i was told i couldn't make a comment because i wasn't allowed to say certain things. and i thought, well my god. people on a commission in san francisco actually think that

sitting on a commission gives them a right to supercede the constitution of the united states. how amazing. how amazing it was to find out later that 6 out of the 7 members were attorneys and that the person who had stopped my public comment, your current president, was a member of the california bar, practicing, attorney, former prosecutor, and i thought gee i wonder how he managed to get through law school without any constitutional law courses. and the answer is he didn't. he stood there and told me something every other member, all of those other attorneys sat there silently, said nothing when he told me... (inaudible) >> sir, your time is up. >> that clock was never turned on. >> yes, it was. >> your time is up. >> you will do anything to shut down the public, won't you.

you are a dishonest bunch of crooks. >> the next speaker? >> asking for perhaps in the future an update on the cit training, how it is going. i think that is pretty important. giving the contentious issues surrounding tasers, i think that it would be wise to be very transparent in your processes, any forms or anything, or movements that you guys are making regarding that, i think that it would be wise to keep it transparent and let the community be involved. as i said it is a contentious issue that people care about. that is just about it. that cit that there are people that are watching that are following along and that we do... i know that you guys are being fairly transparent, we appreciate that you keep it that way and we know everything and hopefully we don't get as angry as other people do. thank you. >> thank you, very much. for your comment. >> any further public comment? >> hearing none, the public

comment is now closed. please call line item number two. >> line item two. report and announcements, two a, chief's report discussion, review of recent act tiflts. update on time line of occ policy recommendations regarding dgo 0.05 response in per suit driving and dg, 0.01, use of force and dgo 0.21, language access services for lep persons. >> good, evening, chief how are you? >> my report to my review of recent activities will be pretty previous tonight and then we will make the presentation and have a discussion regarding the policy recommendations. unfortunately last friday night we suffered a homicide in the bay view. an 18-year-old was killed from gunfire. the upside is that homicide made that case and an arrest was made. unfortunately, a 17-year-old was the suspect in that

homicide. again, the homicide unit and the officers on the street, bay view station et al continue to do a great job making not only clearing these cases but making arrests and sending a message that it is not okay to do violence in san francisco. however we did suffer another one. we had another homicide in the mission, over the weekend and we have a suspect identified in that case. however, not in custody. we are actively seeking him. over the weekend, it was the anniversary of occupy on monday, but activities started on friday. there was to be a bbe-in as it was called near the stadium and it unfolded throughout the weekend throughout golden gate park and ended up at a sleep over in the west end of the park not far from the wind mills. the officers were engaged with the folks demonstrating all weekend long, there was a cooperation and an agreement that it would disban on monday and then they would join the

larger demonstration that took place in the financial district. that event took place in the early morning and then wound its way all the way through the day and much of it was on television. again, i think that kevin caslin and biel and all of the officers that worked it in the late night did a great job. it did come to a head. at 6:00 when they were going to ceremony yusly burn debt papers and to burn gasolines and it was too much gasoline and so it would have essentially made a bomb and so they talked with the occupiers and kind of explained delicacy of it. >> and it did not prevail. they did have a champagne bottle that believed to be a molotov cocktail it had a wik

in it. it never deployed the cocktail and that was that. no arrests were made. and no uses of force were recorded. it was largely a peaceful demonstration. with regard to the weekly crime statistics, violent crime continues to be down in the city, 1 percent, however, property crimes and i am in the training this week with other chiefs, is up 8 percent. a lot of that is believed possibly to be related to 8109. and the realignment. and so again, we work with all of our other city partners to try to get a handle on those that have been taken advantage of the property crimes. >> we can move on to the policy

occ recommendations. >> any questions for the chief? thank you very much. >> good evening, greg mccekrin, here to discuss three of the general orders. i willing covering two of them, 5.05, and 5.01. and as i complete that i will call up the relations to discuss the order. >> before i discuss the two orders, 5.01 and 5.05. to give you a background, the written directive unit which falls under my command to the unit that assists with the changes or adoptions of

policies and orders and department bulletins. there are a number of general orders that the department has looked at and continue to look at to make policy changes to. and we are working our way through that process. there has been a push to have a number of officers back on the street as our numbers are down and i would like to say that our written directives unit is at the staffing levels that it should be at. but currently we are unable to have it at that because of the need for the officers on the street for public safety. that having been said, deputy chief tomy oka and i conducted interviews today for the written directives unit with the intention of bringing two or three officers into the unit to assist us with not only the following revisions to the general orders and updates to the department bulletins but to get us into that process in a

quicker manner. and i'm hoping that we will be able to identify those officers and get them into the unit as soon as possible. the ultimate thing that we would like to do, is have some of that turned over to the civilian hires so we can have the officers back on the street. but wait that the hiring standards are in the department, we are just not able to hire the civilian personnel at this time with a reduced rate to have the officers on the street. but that is what our ultimate hope is in the near future. so i will just spend a couple of minutes discussing where we are on department general 5.05 and 5.01. i will start with 5.05 and once i am done with that you can ask any questions that you have. 5.05, the per suit has been a hot topic, general order for the commission and the department for a long time.

there have been a number of drafts that have been written, a number of meetings that have been conducted over periods of time with a lot of changed personnel. i'm happy to say that about 6 months ago, i was able to get together with sam marian from the office of complaints my written directives unit and a couple of the city attorneys where we sat down and went through all of the drafts that we had, came up with what we thought was consolidated, defined productive, useful terms for the general order. >> we went back and forth, probably had upwards of a half a dozen to a dozen meetings. our last meeting was yesterday, where we came to a agreed upon conclusion on what we believe is the final draft for 5.05. all of us had a copy of it today. and the responses that i got by e-mail is that everyone is

happy with that draft and... >> why don't we have a copy of the draft? >> where is the draft that you are talking about? >> i will be more than happy to e-mail a copy of that draft to you tomorrow. >> what we have been trying to do is come up with what we believe is going to be a draft that we will present to the police officers association for a meet and confer to the presentation of the command staff and to the commission so that we can present everything that is in the general order with the hopes that you will then approve it as a new general order for 5.05. that draft which i will e-mail to all of you first thing in the morning is going to be sent to the police officers association for them to review for a short period of time so that we can have them meet and confer so that we can go on to the presentation of the command staff. >> with that i will answer any questions that you have on 5.05.