registration addresses so this is telling us that many people are parking their vehicles outside of where they are living. so it's a storage issue as well. again we heard much from our neighborhoods in the sunset and where it's impacting other communities and neighborhoods across the coming up next some of the area has we heard about geneva and in the sunset and great highway and lincoln way that we have seen particularly impacted. fulton we have heard, very impacted by this, as well as brotherhood way in district 7. so this is something -- and the bayview, and a number of other places as well -- so i know this are a number of places that are impacted by the storage of oversized vehicles and sometimes individuals who may be living in some of the motorhomes as well. so i just wanted to put this proposal out there. i look forward to the

conversation we'll be having today. and i will yield the floor to supervisor cohen, but after that we'll go to the mta for their presentation. >> supervisor cohen. >> thank you legislation before us and we have a number of areas all throughout the district that do not have parking restrictions. this has led to many problems with a number of oversized and abandoned vehicles, many of which accumulate graffiti and obstruct pedestrian crossings blight in the neighborhood. and in evaluating this proposal, my office discussed the legislation with a number of merchants, as well as neighborhoods organizations. i will admit i look forward to having the ongoing conversation with the homeless coalition, but what i have heard from nearly all corners of the district, including bayview and

other areas that they are actually in support of this legislation, because it's a pilot program that recognizes the impact of these [sthra-ebgz/] vehicles that they have on our neighborhoods and takes into consideration and accommodates those that may be living in their vehicles, families in particular. i know that sfmta has proposed a number of pilot locations after consulting with many neighborhoods, as well as the police department and i would like to be added as a cosponsor to the legislation and i will be supporting it. >> thank you, supervisor. why don't we go to bond. >> good afternoon, mr. chair, members of board, supervisor chu, bonds yee from the sfmta. i think supervisor chu said it very well. i couldn't possibly add anymore to what she has detailed.

but i do want to emphasize that this is a pilot that we're proposing. and we're very mindful of the double-edged sword type of impact it could have on outside residents and businesses. so we're going to be very careful in working with you and businesses and everyone else impacted by this so select the locations that are going to be the most impacted by this proposed pilot. before-and-after evaluation, to )guq ",ñonly going to be implementing this regulation on streets that are going to be specifically signed.q;bi gb as in terms of the signage that is

needed to effectuate this change. and i will be glad to answer c9ñ may have. >> actually, i did want to say that i really appreciate the map that was proved on one of the mta drafts this shows the most impacts areas seem to be district 10, 4 and 6 were about 80% of the identified 461 vehicles are located. and there is more minimal impacts, but i live on fulton street, near golden gate park. and i know there are a number of vehicles that people don't live in the ones that i see. there is more produce market trucks and larger rv -type vehicles that it doesn't seem anybody is living there. do you have any sense of what kind of vehicles of 461 that people may be living in? >> i don't have a specific breakdown, but i'm familiar with the ones on fulton because

i grew up there. that is the situation where you have large vehicles being warehoused in the neighborhood because it's convenient to leave them overnight or for several days at a time. i can't speak for sure whether or not they are the byproduct of someone when is operating a business out of their home or just a convenient place to kind of just warehouse their vehicle between their business activities. >> have we ever considered some kind of residential permit for vehicles of people that live close to them, that use them maybe for work or that may legitimately need to park it somewhere like along fulton, for example? >> right in this case if the legislation is put into effect, we'll on the be working on the blocks that we have consensus with the residents that they want that type of regulation in place. the ones that don't, or they

have vehicles that could be impacted by this, and we would not include those blocks and they would still be eligible for parking permits if they are in such an area. >> thank you. >> thank you. and i believe we have also nancy meyer and officer sue levine to say a few words. >> good afternoon. i am nancy and i'm an enforcement supervisor with the department of parking and traffic division and we're in support of this measure. we have had tremendous impact in many communities like the mission district where the vehicles are so oversized you can't get a street line. and it's actually really dangerous for pedestrians, bicyclists, and drivers. so we

do support it and i'm here to answer any questions that you might have. >> thank you. >> supervisor or through the chair, if we could, i think the legislation again is a fairly simple one. it allows for the mta, if you will notice in the legislation it doesn't spell out specifically what areas will be included. that is within the mta's board to put that into legislation because we want to provide the mta with flexibility to see how this parking management could help and what the impacts are. so we wouldn't want to put that into the legislation. and so again, it is not a citywide regulation. all it does is proves the mta with the ability to say in certain area s where we're

seeing problematic issues that we're able to restrict oversized vehicles from parking overnight from 12-6 a.m. again we're seeing as a noted that there are a large number of people who are storing vehicles on the city streets without much consequence. of the 208 surveyed registers vehicles that were oversized vehicles, again only 24 were actually parked within a quarter mile of where they were living. so it's a very clear sign this a lot of folks are using city streets, especially in areas that may not have parking restrictions or have unbroken sidewalk areas to park vehicles. so colleagues i would ask for your support. i know you are going to take public comment and i look forward to that. >> let's open it up to public comment. >> i have a number of speaker

cards. if you do hear your name, please do line up against the wall and we'll go through one person at a time. [ reading speakers' names ] then i will call more as we go. please come on up. >> good afternoon, my name is lisa and i represent laplaya park neighborhood watch. and just -- i want to say one thing very quickly about the homeless situation. this is personal opinion only. i see no reason why each neighborhood doesn't have a lot somewhere where they can house the vehicles where people are unfortunate enough to have to live in a camper. with that aside, it's one of

the major issues and i understand that in this whole thing. i'm speaking only to safety. i have lived at ocean beach for the past four years. and in the last year, in particular, it has become far more dangerous situation down there. we have had armed robberies, things that didn't exist before. and i have heard information, i don't know how accurate this is that people that i have seen -- i have seen doing illegal activities. but i have heard from a few sources that there were actually people that had warrants out for their arrests that we're being housed in some of these vehicles. i have been very active in calling in the vehicles. pretty much to no avail, as you said, carmen, by the time

anybody gets around to it, they have moved a block away and there doesn't seem to be a lot of repercussions. i don't feel safe. there is a lot of waste, as carmen said that is being dumped. it's a beautiful area, but mostly i just think that it's fair to limit the parking of these vehicles. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon everybody. i am mary ellen collins and i'm a homeowner with the laplaya park homeowner. i have lived there for 15 years. and just as it says in the legislation, and in some emails that we have sent around, the

increase of robberies, theft, assault, i can't tell you about every two weeks i'm hosing off human excrement from the side gate of my house to the threatening behavior that have i experienced because i have screamed to guys doing drug deals out of their camper outside of my house. i think the quality of life issues as a homeowner and taxpayer that i'm entitled to and i'm not denigrating the efforts of homeless coalition. i applaud them and i want to see us come up with a solution pore them, but it's not safe for me to live in my neighborhood anymore. carmen will attest to me becoming 5' with a 6' mouth. i am driving anybody who will listen crazy.

i hear you and really hope you continue to solve of the homeless problem and allow us to get some quality of life back into our neighborhood. that is why i am here and i'm hoping that the legislation goes through so we can have that. our neighborhood watch group is more than happy to help you in other areas. we'll help canvas the area. thank you very much. >> next speaker. >> kareem, i'm a long time trucking owner here in san francisco: >> sir, could you please pull the microphone closer to your mouth. >> there is a number of companies near the san francisco produce mart. and we have been very concerned

about this. two months ago i was at a hearing where toland street was trying to be -- there was a legislation that was attempting to have no-parking 12 a.m. to 6 a.m. everyday. if you go by the produce time literal any time in the night there are trucks everywhere and it would have a tremendous impact on us. i have been talking to the people who are doing this legislation for several months now that it's supposed to be residential area only. however, it's written it can be anywhere. so our concern is that legitimate business use of the street at night by trucks, and buses, will be a big problem. and if you try to do it block-by-block, the only thing i see is that if you tag one block, everybody is going to move to another block. so it will just keep leapfrogging along like that. anyway, please keep in mind our

legitimate business use for trucking and business activities. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello. thank you for letting me speak. i believe this is unfair. this is an unfair proposition. i don't know why you came up with this. we live in our vehicle, me and my wife. we have a very enjoyable life. we decided to live in our bus because we can't afford to live indoors. we like the gypsy lifestyle and if you restrict where we park, we'll have a tough time living this. is unfair. do you understand? this is also unfair for a lot of businesses that have big vehicles that need and burning man people that have their vehicles on the streets, artists like us. we don't think that some of the points brought up, like the safety issue. what kind of safety issue is this? so that

tall vehicles -- i mean, there are tall vehicles everywhere. i mean, isn't the safety issue during the day when people are out walking and biking? this ordinance is only for at night, right? and then the other thing is that this is a pro-developer and landlord bill, not for the poor, not for small business, not for artists. i would like to say it's unfair. let's see, we have a functional life. we are independent and we are responsible and we do not want the shelter life or small hotel room.

>> i can't believe that they don't -- they don't actually encourage people to move no their vehicles when everybody is getting foreclosed, and everybody is losing their jobs and this is actually a responsible option. there is a misconception that people that live in their vehicles are irresponsible and lazy, but we have to be careful with the cops and careful with the parking restrictions and that we don't bother anybody. many people who live it they are vehicles, who are disabled people, emotionally socially disturbed people. we are some of the healthiest ones, but many people that is the only way they can live and if you suddenly paralyze their lives, it's just going to be more homeless people that are

really freaked out. if suddenly they take your car away and all of your stuff, we build a life there for years and for me it's a dream to have this bus. i would love to be able to travel more, but i haven't become famous yet. i am thankful it's not all around the city and you are actually considering a transition consideration. >> thank you. >> let me ask you this question, he talked to you outside earlier. how long have you lived in the city? >> i have lived in the city since '96 on and off. i was homeless for a long time. i slept in the park for a long time and i was undocumented and couldn't have my own vehicle. it was dream for me all my life to have a bus and travel around and be a musician and finally

in the last few years we have had that. we have never had had a problem in the place we sleep. >> you have had the bus for about five years? >> this bus in particular for three years. before that, smaller vans. >> it's 24'? >> ours is 24' by 9'. but we have all the right instruments and we can do our concerts ourselves of it. i don't see how i could even play my music in an apartment, because i would be in trouble with the neighbors . thank you very much. your time is up.

>> my name is tony robles and on the board of heritage foundation. i think we would be remiss if we didn't frame this discussion in terms of class and economics. you talk about safety, you know? and harm being done to our community. let's not forget the banks. let's not forget the elders that end up in vehicles or who end up nowhere. who have been incredibly damaged by our financial institutions, who are ending up in situations that nobody should end up. and nobody talks about the damage that they are doing. at least nobody in the media. you know, it's always those people in the cars. those people. the homeless people as if they were a tribe of people from outer-space. people who work, people who have jobs, they end up in vehicles.

often times it happens. you know, you lose your place of residence. i know people that are employed that end up in their rv or end up in their car. and it's not a choice. you know, it's a result of extreme poverty. i mean, the housing, trying to get on waiting lists. trying to navigate those systems can be an extremely long wait. the budget in hud, for example, has been dropped more than $45 billion per year. biggest drop occurring between 1980 and '83. it's more criminalization of poverty, when there are bigger criminals that need to be talked about and whose damage to society should be examined

more and resisted more. i have lived in the sunset. >> thank you. >> and i think this is a reflection of the attitude in general of the neighborhood. >> thank you. >> i just want to encourage the last speaker to stick around for item no. 3. we're going to be discussing foreclose penalties. trust me, we haven't forgotten about the banks. >> i will call a few more names. [ reading speakers' names ] >> hi, jennifer, director of coalition on homelessness. we strongly oppose this legislation, because we believe would negatively impact many families, elders, disabled people that have no other choice, but to reside in their vehicles. it's not uncommon for people in san francisco to invest in a large vehicle or camper and move into it and it's common for people to save up for a camper as a means to get off the streets and out of shelters. we do regular outreach to

people who are residing in their vehicles and receive frequent reports that they are already being harassed by the police. they report having to move every 72 hours and being careful to keep a low protile and living in constant fear. if this legislation would pass it would be duplicative and result in another layer of finds that are receive. you have to move it already citywide 72 hours. if the resident cannot pay the ticket, they not only could face jail time when it goes to warrant, but the very real prospect of losing their last asset when it gets towed and they copyright pay the fines of it's important to understand that people are not choosing to resident in their vehicles. there are concurrently more than 40,000 households waiting for affordable housing.

there is not enough spaces in these programs and fining people and eventually towing their vehicle and jailing them because they are too poor to pay rent is simply wrong. thank you. thank you. next speaker. [ applause ] >> if we could ask folks to hold their applause so we can get through public comment. >> good afternoon, supervisors, we're here in support of the legislation. we live in a quiet residential neighborhood in supervisor chu's district and our concern is primarily with the commercial trucks, some of

which are as big as the houses on the block that we live in. we recently did do the 72-hour call on roofing trucks that were there for about three weeks. before i called they were using their trucks to operate their business from the drive-in and pick up tools and drive away and leave the trucks parked there. this is the kind of direction i would like to see the legislation provide enforcement for. in addition, the safety issues, they sort of block off the parking lot that locals can drive into and conduct various activities. they have a nice private club in a parking lot that wasn't there before. so we see that as a safety issue. >> sir are you in the laplaya area of the sunset?

>> no. outer park side. >> okay. >> so it's generally a family neighbor, with lots of soccer on weeks and that kind of thing. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, my name is robert davis and live in the bayview. i'm here today to support supervisor cohen's ordinance to limit parking on certain main streets by installing these signs, no parking 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. and no parking vehicles over 6' tall. they have done a lot to improve the quality of life. we have gotten a red of a lot of other little problems, people living in their rvs, namely litter, illegal dumping and blight, but what i would ask that we do not enact any legislation that we cannot enforce. code enforcement at the mta

level is not that g. good. just to tell you the truth i will tell you about the 1400 block of mandelle plaza, between oakdale and palu off of 3rd street in the bayview. of the 130 complaint they wrote five tickets, which is about 4%. code enforcement is the problem with the mta. again, if you are going to pass a law, it's got to be enforceable and it's got to be enforced. thank you. thank you, next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i am gwendelyn westbrook and ceo of the homeless resource center located in bayview hunters point. i am on both sides. i understand where you are

coming from with the code enforcement and it does sometimes lead to crime in the area and i'm very strict about campers parking along the shelter, because i know it can be a place for them to start dealing drugs, using them, whatever. but when my workers come to work in these campers are towed, it's a problem. so i would like you to come up with a solution where people can park those campers in our neighborhoods. if it's candlestick park, not a residential area, something rather than tow; because a lot of people out there who are homeless and live in their campers, a lot of them are ill. this is the only place that they have to go at night. and it's a problem. it's ag