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you when my daughter was kidnapped by her dad and i afraid to call the police, where were you when i asked the judge to protect me agasb]ñ my abuser where were you when that same judge gave the dad full custody and had me arrested. where3ssr were you during the month when i spent in jail. i expected a visit but÷÷()ç you never came,wf÷. ross received more votes in the last election than the mayor did.1tv)8p&c @&c"p% there are so many reasons for that that i can't go into them tonight. but my reasonç&/ voting for him is because he stood for community justice and will continue to standeiw7 for community justice. unlike most of the members of thisnxt board his vote can never be bought. and it's my firm belief that that's the very ÷#÷ reason ed lee seeks to unseat ross. his masters may notóerñ appreciate having a sheriff whose string
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they can't pull at will but i do and mygyúsi counts. >> president chiu: next speaker. >> david elliott resident of san francisco. i just want to say i appreciate the the difficult positione you supervisors are in. i would not want to have to make this decision about a former&x4sñ colleague. and i know no matter how you vote you're going toguqk'háake political blowback. it's not going to be easy. you're going to get pressure. i stillk pray that you'll do the right thing and restore ross tohq9dc the job he was elected to. this meeting started, this hearing started with some comments#ká#z a former mayor of our city art egg nos. i) çwi what he said was true about our current mayorae÷ sadly kind of overstepping his power. he overcharged ross to beginyiam with. you can see how many charges he threw at ross like anbvp amateur prosecutor, hoping one would
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stick.÷g4i"p% and yet all that he ended up being convicted of, or chose --igoñ found guilty of is what he already pled guilty to. the fact is that there arekyñ: powers behind the thrown. there's people like ron conway and real estate investsq2%$n investors who pull strings in this town and really who7ñn matter of evictions and manaa8q> hope you will do the right thing. i thank you for your time. good evening. >> president chiu: good[df)oñ evening. next speaker. >> i'm rosayx= moss, resident of san francisco for many years. i've watchedr,7 the strange dem gory going on in the chronicle and the9q whipping up of the population towards some kind of
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lynching of ross mirkarimi for a longuñ p time, and i have not been able to believe it. and here i am toc5oi speak to you briefly and urge you, please, all these people, including myself, i®j]w hear asking you to support the democratic process. there's much more at stake here thanu9- all the convolutions6 interpretation. there are independent voters making a decision and you know whwz law says, and you are notdqkz confused i don't believe, on what has to be done. so i wish youphxbz great deal of courage, and i hope you reinstate rossanf mirkarimi. >> hi.]qí72 my name is -- cayman, a resident of the2u richmond district. i wasn't going to speak until i heard someoneknfoy speak about the --
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poll. i was polled by that poll. let me tell you about thattó poll. that was the most outrageous bsuhqw push-pull i have ever heard. before they asked a question about removal they frontlbeyt it with all sorts of negative one-sided information about ross mirkarimi, such as do support having a sheriff who pled guilty to domestic violence, do you support having a sheriffkx=lu that's on probation, and, you know, at the very end of it, +x ñ the very end of asking questions like that, in that vein, and nothing from the other vç side only then did they ask do you support removing sheriff ross6 mirkarimi. okay. this is absolutely outrageous. this poll was commissioned2p@qv friends of willie brown, a couple of wealthy made up the order of the questions and the questioning the way they wanted to do it so'( they could produce the results that they wanted. even under those conditions, something like!.2f 30, 40% of the people said no we still don't
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want ross removed. in fact iniyñ the richmond district where i live it was 51-40tify under those conditions. if that's the way those numbers came out you can bet the real% numbers were strongly in favor of keeping our sheriff, not taking9lúó away our votes. you know they say that this is going to be a tough vote, a courageous vote. thing to do is the politically expedient thing to doañxm-áuáq the people of this city, they're right here, they're right here. they've been here allmo-1 day. this is the base. this is the voters of the city. ignore them at yourk' ú peril. >> president chiu: next speakerh;#n . >> i'm ann garrison. i did a lotésúñ reporting about this. early on i spoke to jeff adachimñ;7g about the way prosecution have changed during the years that he's been the public defen p he said that before 1996, the
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response to this, alñd first incident with no serious injury sustained wouldío been pretrial diversion including counseling for both spouses if theyepeñ both wanted it. he sad h said he thinkscggkñ it's good the criminal justice system takes domestic violence more seriously than in the pastshidt but because there is no longer a pretrial diversion option in any case,l helpful response for couples like rossu4t@c and eliana that want to stay together. the only positive social outcomes)gk that i can imagine is a change in the law to make that kind of response possible. ÷kw the other positive outcome would be this board's decision to restore sheriff mirkarimitg' to office. all the people in this room and many more, would feel empowered togáqtñ fight for their right to vote. i listened to a lot of theqs ethics commission hearings on sf
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gov tv and one moment stands out, thereo#iç was an absolutely inane exchange going on, as to whether or not the label %m1 domestic violence applied to this new year's eve incident until shepherd$ finally said i don't care what you call it, the question is does it justifypqx office. i don't think so5e2a. >> robertc san francisco. i've been watching this#z÷ at home. i don't know who's drummed the table all night but it's hard to follow%zc this. i wish they'd stop. anyway, i came here, and it's hard to come heren;ñwó because i don't really believe in politics as it exists much anymore. i'm veryd nw disappointed. seems like war is on the agenda whatever party you're in. the war against the poorm$ ÷ is on the agenda, whatever party you're in. the neighborhood ircgnp came through
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to get here is ripe with crime. i wish the policeñom3 would get out of their cars and walk the beat instead of riding around inhb%z circles and letting poom i know die on the sidewalks. i know them. i.+ see them die. i don't know all the answers to all this but i did come here becauseepé i love san francisco. and i want to be a part of these]ql eloquent people who came -- i can't say anything better than any ofsk&ç them. they've all said their own minds, and i hope you all li i even admire the domestic violence survivors who are brave enough and courageousz here to stand up against all this. but that's part of san francisco, and ti7/ñ people run this city. it's a special place. i love ñ, it and i had -- my piece and reinstate ross mirkarimi.%+:n the people elected him. it would be wrong not to. if he's not elected,
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♪ and what i and now theyúy$nd trying to throw my boss, the sheriff, under the curb. and you know what,çi#/& ed lee, i disagree. ♪ because all you're doing is br5gjt hardship on this man's family. ♪ and itt ain't no mystery. ♪ just check your history.a]nám ♪ i'm just working on a case involve a lot ofo3l conspiracy. ♪ but what's going down, blacks aredvn brown. ♪ because this is jerry's second time around. you may notq2
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talking about but ross knows what i'm talking about. we go way(gjoy back. he's here for people of the community and african-american of the community and all the people that'saté it is ludicrous, despicable thatit u the city and county -- because we didn't know -- >> president chiu: thankuóac youávh. next speaker. >> hiñ i hope i can be articulate because iú coherent thing here. but i did about something that i find veryvúúz' disturbing in all of this, which is the fact6"y6 rightsg about this, was taken away from
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her. and not too many people have talked about that. i think that we-3+ all have this space to deal wit8 m intense things. we all have this space that we can use to respond# to something that happens to us. and that is thing that we all have, all of us, in this something personal that's happening in our lives. that was takenm8isu(v from her. she went through her process of tryinb"b do i do with this. she thought about some things.8+sñ and in the end she decided not to call the police. evenf really intend to call the police on eliana lopez. %iox+he was just kind of saying okay, what would happen if. then we all know what happened afterye that. and to me, that's a very important part of this1c ñ case.
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because after that, you know there was this iron first thatwp]o fist that came down and the whole thing was very cruel. we all just watcheda=z and it was not cool at all. you know, life can be messy that's another thing i want to say. life is not perfect. people are not perfect. and9/ç6)by they never will be. whenç92 talk about domestic violence is a crime label and say you're supposed to be a sheriffho >> president chiu: thank you very much. r thank you veryím m much. next speaker 6n. >> hello. my name is chad non-nor and here to recommend ross mirkarimi be reinstated to office as soon
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asg;hó possible. people of san francisco chose ross to be our sheriff and itmn would be a great injustice to the democratic process to have anythingxj:+uñ i heard people today call ross' actions criminal and serious. he has donee react to a situation concerning two people that he lovesks](z dearly. was it the most appropriate action? i think most people would argue that it was2 but the test i'd like to put forward is the test of acceptable humanjrp nature. would i call that action a crime? absolutelyify would i call the action human? yes i would. to grab an arm whenoktb] something thinks they're going to lose someone they love is a human reactiy traffic your reaction is to grab them and pull themíj back. i don't think that is a serious crime to me:rl'. as far as what we're doing here tonight is deciding if official
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misconducty][f has occurred, to me it sounds like the charter does.a=- not specifically have the words that includethsrf sheriff-elect or any person that has been elected, is not in officeghkkñ yet. so to stretch the definition out to fit politicalk,%úa agendas i do not think is going to serve the city. thank you veryqm!r much. >> president chiu: nextn. speaker. >> good evening his]z5@@&c"p% supervisors. my name is tammy bryant and i'm a district residentu ñr 5 with broken glasses. i want to stress this is not about domestic?:n$ violence. they have no legal argument to make so they make an emotional onelléuk to compensate for their lack of any taste. nobody here condones domestic violence butn)>0p we condemn a moment of family crisis being
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transformed into the life of thej2mk century for illegal and financial gain. sheriff mirk is who the voters tp-e.]@álp we cannot support the same suppression that we abhor in others. lí/#%ave over 1500 signatures. these are the people of san francisco who support reinstating ourp and for every person who signed this petition there's another thousand who support him. they're biased, unscientific and don't represent8zñ the fact. everywhere i go people come up to me and tell me -- supportç sheriff. everywhere he goes when he's out with people people line up to tell him how much they support him. people of san francisco support our sheriff. i'm not here to make an@m$jm emotional argument, i'm not here to enthusiastically create the great work ofahx him. i want you to decide this on the legal merits of the case because thatqp guarantees his immediate reenstate punishment no@? misconduct occurred.
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if the d.a../=( thought they would prevail they would not have offered the plea. the sheriff investigates or prosecutes dom he can2]: violence. he -- housing them. he can actually serven0>< as an excellent role model and example for successfulfv rehabilitation. i'm a dv survivor. make no mistake about it i do notfa consider this conviction to be valid, no crime was committed but oftentimes innocentd5zfv people are compelled to plead a lesseruf charge to -- an erroneous conviction. thank7?c[ youcgnhs4< f:u"ñ ijny
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0 >> president chiu: if tm could ask everyone to please sit down or else i will ask deputy sheriffs toñ out of the room so we can continue with oura+ 9 are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in public b comment? are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in publicil=:u comment. please step up.t. other microphone6+yes. >> good evening, supervisors. it has been a long day. it's been an=)fñ exciting day. and a very informative day indemcnmf7(p&c @&c"p% i think that with the demonstration that we just saw,
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i'm not going to -- i xz!"6z they pretty much closed it out and i think i want to close it out byoió z saying that, you know, all political agendas aside, you have toáhgó do the right thing. i think that karma7xfç is a big thing, and it does come back to haunt us in theu so in trying to cut the head off of>úk one man, you end up cutting the head off of many of you in the end. so i would be very very careful in considering/'l your decision because it could really come back to hauntí+oñ you. you see a lot of power in this room. and the people are power. each sñnp'd every one of you have been put in this seat by everybody sitting back here, myself included.8x;÷n and inasmuch as we can indeed put you in, we can take you out. relay $1$ñ on to mayor ed lee.
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no one is÷b/8yñ indestructible or invincible and you cannot necessarily hide[sñym behind closed doors. we will get you inevitably.svi2] so, please, i know mr. ross mirkarimi, and i have great fondness for#jz him. i sit on his reentry council and i've learned a great deal from and this is not the way to do it. it's not the way to do it. and november 6 has a lot of power for these voters, for all ofim be careful how you vote. >> president chiu: thank you. next37p >> good evening. tab buckner.vá1[ç whether we like it in this chamber or not, whether each of you like it orwg>9 this is going to be considered one of the defining moments of your ñwçolitical career. people will never forget this moment. what happened is)[6($ an unfortunate incident between a couple of
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people can happen between anyóok]n two people who care was taken advantage of politically, hasu áç blown up, and now what i ask you is to think about your own integrity. do you hav.[ the integrity to think about what your decision will be.ke[vj are you thinking more about the merits of what happened, or are you thinking about whom you owe[[;t÷ your political chips to, who is writing you a check. this is that moment that wehñ6ha are going to remember. and something that you will be thought -- remembered about from'bchsh ei-now on. i realize we're not quite up to the next ordinance on the closing a sense you're all standing naked2-cti tonight. so i really plead with you to do what you feel can demonstrate your personaldggcx integrity, your independence, not from whom you owe on a personal politicalú/> basis, but whom you owe here in the city, having taken the oath of office to represent allm÷ ñ the people fairly in this city. and the democratic processzp] of
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which their elections demonstrate. thank you. >> president chiu: thank you. nexto÷ >> hi.'jmgy my name's larry edmunds. when i ran for mayor6 in '89 i got eight votes. it was larryb"[ jerome edmunds. the president was here, the first family. g forward, we really need to do -- i was sitting home,sr m watching from 2:00 to 7:00 when you took the break. you all gave me a headache innklmñ the ambassador hotel. you don't know what abuse is. you areuj=f domestic abuse, spouse abuse. i went to co-op yuntd?f1xm for violence meeting and they told me -- in the house, something is going on inki like the lady who told you about prop 63, going on in san francisco.
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i live in the tenderloin. we arez the largest black voting people in san frq%pw(r)y of bayview now. you trying to kill us in these sron t hotels. there's a lot of abuse. those women who want to work on abuse andec2ñ have san francisco become a number one city once again this city is called the talekglsç of two cities and we've seen this today. it is time for us to get back on track. thez6ñ8 world is waiting. they looking. this is not a -- it does feel like mitt'n romney is here. they got mitt romney face┐8>daáhere. because as you know i want to address as --níís÷ with a fara faucet wig. igñgbe9- i may have to do the mitt romney thing this time. san francisco you have to do better1dfc because this is the last hope of america. the ocean is right here and we fall off into=txrk4x it, the pacific ocean.
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you know what you know this mayor, if you don't really have aspiration to be a mayor we see where you end up at. this is not right and you all have to be a democratic party that makes america look like we have justice in this part of the world. thank you. >> president chiu: thank you. -n speaker. >> good evening. my name is alex. i'm not here to defend ross, specifically. i think there's been enough of evidence and counterevidence. what i think is important is if the board is willing, with the mayor, to try someone at a level of ethics, and i agree with some of the other speakers, i think we have to hold everybody to that same standard. and there are a lot of people in this city that work hard for the city and there are a lot of people that have hidden agendas. and that's throughout the departments. and i think it bears that if you
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make this decision to take one person down ethically that you should look at everyone else and yourselves. and i think that's just a part of voting for your conscience and being entirely fair about this process. so none of you are here because you have a bad agenda. and i don't believe ross had any bad intentions to become sheriff. something happened in his private life, and i'm not sure whether that really supports this huge circus that has now surrounded our city, has involved you. you all look stressed out. i can't imagine being the president of the board dealing with this. but i wish you godspeed and hope you make the right decision. thank you. >> president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> hi, supervisors. always got to have the last word
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word. as a former victim of domestic violence, myself, and someone who has followed this case from the beginning i can say with a certainty that this has become, in my view, a setup and a political football. i would like to see you vote on this with equanimity, and not allow ross mirkarimi to become a scapegoat in this process. i think that maybe this has been said before, but i think that eliana was subjected to a setup. and it is so clear to see this. ross is -- would make an excellent sheriff. i would like to see him
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reinstated. so please vote your conscience, and as a former survivor of domestic violence who was always on the side of the woman i can say that i think this is -- it's clear that this has been used in the most manipulative of ways. so thank you very much for letting me say this. >> president chiu: thank you. are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in public comment in if there are any other members of the public, please line up on the right-hand side. >> hi. i just have a really short thing to say to you. supervisors, if you love san francisco ross and his family have been through a whole, whole lot. and ross is here, still wanting
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to be sheriff. so, you know if you care about san francisco, i would grab him now before he changes his mind. >> president chiu: next speaker please. >> good evening, supervisors. i served 30 years ago on your board, and i have been very distressed -- pardon me, john -- i'm very distressed of the fact that we have gone through such a really deplorable process by overreaching our authority by the executive branch, in a broad interpretation of an authority. i would hope that you would exercise the same broad interpretation in terms of reasserting the board's responsibility in upholding what
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should have been the vote of the people, and not be usurped. and for not setting yourselves up for setting a precedent for the future. there will be great destructive for our city. thank you. >> president chiu: thank you. are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in public comment? okay. colleagues, any final questions to the parties involved? at this time, this hearing has been held and -- colleagues, this question's in the hands of the board. supervisor olague. >> supervisor olague: i took a very pragmatic approach to reviewing the charges and establishing my understanding of both the facts and the recommendation before us. as a member of this board, i take very
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