>> commissioner, you mean the redevelopment areas that are outside of -- the three big ones that will still proceed. >> the other one -- but also the ones continue to foresee the interface of what you are reporting on here. this is kind of like a little bit mysterious of how this all comes together. >> yeah, they don't -- they certainly -- unless they are within one of these plan areas, there are no impact fees of the same way. so, the question is, of course, obviously -- obviously traffic does president stop just because one enters the redevelopment area. one has to drive through. and, so, there are clearly challenges. i mean, i will say that the planning for those areas and the implementation for the areas that are outside of those big three areas, transbay, mission bay, and candlestick shipyard, is now at the planning department. so, we have in a sense broadened our jurisdiction, if you will, and have a better ability to help in those areas. but i mean, i think the

challenge, as the speakers have said and as kiersten has suggested, is in the transportation end of things, particularly in the south of market. and we are working fairly closely right now with the mta and the ta and other agencies to look more comprehensively at what we should be doing in south of market. because that's where the real transportation demand and where the growth and where the transportation need is the greatest. there is very little question about that. we need to spend more time looking at that and trying to figure out how to fund what -- we have a hard time funding really in the city which is long-term transportation policy planning. and i am working -- it is something that i'm working on right now trying to figure out how to fund some additional work in that area. and that would cross all those boundaries. it doesn't end at redevelopment area. it has to be comprehensive in how we do that. >> thanks. >> commissioner antonini. >> thank you. i agree with comments by the

two speakers, and i would add to it that three areas that are very important. the first is coordination, intra-agency coordination on all these issues, traffic, transit parks, housing, business growth, and looking at it as we're planning something, and many of these plans are extremely desirable, but we have to realize that there will be impacts and make sure that we analyze the impacts and try to provide for them at the beginning. simply saying that we're going to move everybody to public transit, which may not be adequate, probably isn't. there will be people who will drive. and, so, we have to realize that there will be an impact and we have to accommodate that and make sure we can keep the streets passable. that's just one example. the other thing, i think it was mr. radulavich, talked about community impact, extremely

important, too. when an agency goes forward with a plan, that they get some input from the neighborhood, people who have particularly been there a long time throughout the city, and find out whether this makes a lot of sense or not. and what they feel about it. and the third thing is maintenance, and we see this oftentimes with parks, medians, beltways. we do a lot of things which look really impressive when they're first put in, but a year later they're particularly planted areas, they're not being maintained, they're not being watered, weeded and they become overrun and they're actually a disgrace for the city. and one point -- and i've had a lot of complaints about this. this has nothing to do with your specific item areas, but the same thing could apply in rincon hill. it could apply any of the areas we're looking at through here. sunset boulevard, i think it was

the san francisco public utilities had jurisdiction, decided to put in this bent grass and they thought it would stop glowing at a certain point, which it hasn't, and it's kind of a mess out there. * growing they never asked any of the neighbors ahead of time whether they wanted that and nobody really did enough study to figure out what would happen if it doesn't stop growing and it's fully muni tokens and weeds and other things because they didn't figure any maintenance. and some day they're going to have to start cutting it and making it presentable, but nobody's budgeted for it. so, this is just an example of going ahead where somebody has a great idea for something, they think it's great, but they don't ever bother to ask anybody whether they like it or what are the impacts if their idea isn't what they think it's going to be. so, i think planning is the big thing that comes out of our entire discussion, but i appreciate what you've done. and i appreciate the report. i'll read it in greater depth. >> commissioner wu.

>> i also want to thank staff and the department for presenting this to us. it's really timely considering we just passed the transit center and then we talked about western soma today. i have been following the road fund a little bit and it seems like there really is a greater level of coordination between planning and dpw on the road fund. i think that is merit in this process so it's really great. out of public comment on this item, some of this question about how do we make sure that the projects that are being proposed that are being paid for by these fees are the ones that are addressing the needs in the neighborhood, and then also reflects the community concerns in the neighborhood. i think that's a really tough question. i was thinking about that while we were talking about western soma also. is it general fund for community cac, the cag, the really tall ask from the city, is it technical assistance to groups that are in those

neighborhoods already? how would those groups pay for technical assistance, how would it come to them? i think it's something the department should keep thinking about and we should keep thinking about how to educate and how to get the right resources to the neighborhoods so that they can have a say in the priorities for not only these fees, but sort of a number of different projects that the planning department is looking at. >> [speaker not understood]. >> thank you. i wanted to thank kiersten for the work on this. we established after the big plans were adopted almost four years ago now, we established this implementation group in the department for a number of reasons. but primarily because we didn't want to be in a position as is often in the past where we see these plans and they sit on the shelf and other agencies were responsible for implementing them, but only their piece of it. and, so, that is why we chair the ipic committee, i can't remember what it stands for,

the plan implementation committee. the planning department actually chairs it frankly because we know the plans best of the we have a more comprehensive view of it, but also because we don't build capital projects. so, we have a more objective view i think on how these funds should be prioritized. we're also learning a lot in the last couple of years. we now have a much more robust discussion with the capital planning committee and that staff so that we can incorporate our work into their -- into the capital planning process and the budgeting process. and i do think that, you know, while we didn't do some of the more detailed transportation work like western soma in the initial stages or in the final version of the eastern neighborhoods plan, we have followed up with some of that work. so, now we do have a detailed streetscape plan for the mission district, for example, that can take advantage of monies as they come in. and in an ideal world we would do those more detailed planning efforts on more of the neighborhood plans as they move forward. so, i do think it is important to kind of keep following up on

these plans. i don't want the department to be in a position nighv years down the road of not being able to implement some of these plans because of we don't have the details ready, we don't have the community input, we don't have something that we can move forward with funding requests or something like that. it's important that we keep doing work to follow-up on. it's a challenge financially on how we fund that work. but i do think it's important work to be done. and as i said, i'm very concerned about big transportation challenges in the south of market. i think they are the city's biggest transportation challenges right now. i've been talking to a number of people, the mayor's office and bart and others about how we can help address some of that in the long run. but i think it's the city's biggest transportation [speaker not understood] in the future. but thank you. >> thank you. next item. >> commissioners, you are now on public comment. at this time members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within

the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. i have no speaker cards. but you have me. it's an easy thing because it's not 10 o'clock. sue hester. again, i plead for all of us, commissioners and the public, to have an understanding of what we lost in terms of citizen input on land use planning when the redevelopment agency was abolished. the redevelopment agency, because of its history, had little advisory committees that had some power. right now the only body that has some power is the seven of you, the two people are missing. we have lost not only the redevelopment commission as a citizen commission. and as flawed as it was, it was

a citizen commission. and the advisory bodies to the redevelopment. we have created a lot of new neighborhoods, and they were under the aegis of the redevelopment agency. particularly in the eastern part of the city. we have got to address the problem that there has to be citizen input in planning. not the mayor's office of economic development, not the mayor's office, because they have no commissions over them. it's this commission and the burden on the planning commission is incredible going forward. and if we don't stick up our hands and say, wait a minute, we need more wisdom than just the 7 of you, the pressure on you is going to be horrible.

and i don't think because its was a rush job to kill redevelopment that anyone stepped back and said, where do we have bodies that have some power? and i think it is your responsibility as well as our responsibility to do that. the mayor is not going to go off on a tangent and do this because it's good planning. you are our planning advocates and you have to open up your mouth along with us, that we need to have input -- the west soma task force is abolished at the end of the year. there is no more -- and what is left in the south of market? you, that's it. there is no one else. and that is the area of the most planning activity and the

most housing activity in the entire city. and there is going to be you, that's it. the western soma doesn't exist. [inaudible]. >> any additional public comment? okay. that means the meeting is adjourned. [injuredctionerthv? adjourned]

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district. it offers a view of the downtown skyline, the bay bridge, and the east bay. it is one of the best kept secrets in the city. it is hardly ever crowded. on any given day, you will run into a few locals. , bought a 37 bus to get there without any parking worries. for legged friends can run freely. there is also a patch of grass for the small box. >> it is a great place. it is a wonderful place to have these kinds of parks. that dog owners appreciate it. >> take time to notice of the wildfires that are on the grassland and keep your head out on the lookout for hawks and other bird life. be sure to take your camera and be prepared to take a view of the city will not forget. it has a beautiful red rock formations.

you could watch the sunrise over the bay. this is another one of our great lookouts. we are at mount davidson. 928 feet. this is the place for you to bring someone special. to not forget that dogs and enjoy all of the pathways and greenery that surrounds you. it provides a peaceful oasis of open space and great hiking trails. the spectacular view offers a perfect place to watch the sunrise or sunset with someone you love. >> it is a good place to get away from the hectic life of the city. come up here and listen to nature, i get some fresh air. that view is fantastic. >> where sturdy shoes.

hikers get the feeling of being in a rain forest. mount davidson is also a great place to escape the noise and the bustle of the city. take the 36 bus and it will drop you at the entrance. it is quite a hike to the top but the view is worth every step. this is the place to bring that someone special. golden gate park's largest body of water is an enchanting place. is a popular spot for paddling around in boats, which can be rented. created in 1893, it was designed for these your boating -- for

leisure boating. it is named for the wild strawberries that once flourished. there is also a waterfall, two bridges, and trails the climb to the summit, the highest point at more than four hundred feet. you can catch glimpses of the western side of the city that make this hilltop a romantic look out. for public transit, i take the n train. the lad the ad -- lake is ada accessible. watch many ducks, swans, and siegel's. -- seagulls. it is a great place to stroll

and sail away. many couples come here to take a ride around a lake, going under the bridges, passing the chinese pavilion and the waterfall. for a quiet getaway, making for a memorable and magical experience. located on 19th avenue, this growth is the place to where you're hiking boots, bring the family and the dog because it has so much to offer you and your loved ones. it is a truly hidden gem in the city. the park is rich with eucalyptus trees. long paths allow you to meander, perfect for a dog walking in a wooded environment. >> i enjoy the history.

the diversity of nature that exists in such an urban city, concrete streets, cars, we have this oasis of the natural environment. it reminds us of what the history was. >> there is a section for dogs and plenty of parking. transit is available on the 28 bus to get you very easily. the part is ada -- park is ada accessible. it is also a natural lake. this is your chance to stroll around the lake and let the kids run free. it also has many birds to watch. it is a place to find and appreciate what you -- a wonderful breath of fresh air.

come and experience in this park and enjoy the people, picnics, and sunshine. this is a lovely place to take a stroll with your loved ones. in the middle of pacific heights, on top of these hills, it offers a great square, a peaceful beauty, large trees and grass and greenery. it features tables and benches, a playground, restaurants, and tennis courts. there are plenty of areas for football and picnics. it is very much a couple's park. there are many activities you can experience together. stroll on the pathways, bring your dog, or just picnic at one of the many tables and enjoy all that it has to offer together. many couples find this is a perfect park to throw down a blanket and soak up the sun.

it is a majestic place that you can share with someone you chairs. lafayette park is also easily accessed from the 47, 49, and 90 buses. it is ada accessible. we are here at the historic palace of fine art in the marina district. originally built for the 1950's exposition, the palace is situated on san francisco's number waterfront. it is ada accessible and is reached by the 28, 30, and 91 bus lines. set against the reflecting waters of the lagoon and

eucalyptus trees, the palace is one of san francisco post most -- san francisco's most romantic spots to relax with that special someone while listening to the water and gazing at the swans. a beautiful to view from many locations along the mattoon, an ideal place to -- all -- lagoon, an ideal place to walk with a loved one. reservations for weddings are available at sfrecpark.org. discarding contains plants referred to by william shakespeare's plays and poems. welcome to the shakespeare garden here in the famous golden gate park. located near the museum and the

california academy of sciences, the garden was designed by the california spring blossom and wildfilower association. here is a truly enchanting and tranquil garden along a path behind a charming gate. this garden is the spot to woo your date. stroll around and appreciate its unique setting. the gorgeous brick walkway and a brick wall, the stone benches, the rustic sundial. chaired the part -- share the bard's word hundred famous verses from a shakespearean plays. this is a gem to share with someone special. pack a picnic, find a bench, and

enjoy the sunshine, and let the whimsical words of william shakespeare and floats you and your loved one away. this is one of the most popular wedding locations and is available for reservations. take a bus and have no parking worries. shakespeares' garden is ada accessible. located at the bottom of this hill, it is a secret garden with an infinite in captivating appeal. carefully tucked away, it makes the top of our list for most intimate pyknic setting. avoid all taurus cars and hassles by taking a cable car. or the 30, 45, or 91 bus.

the garden was designed by thomas church in 1957. grow old with me, the best is yet to be is inscribed on a sundial. it is anchored by twin white gazebos and flowers that bloom year-round. this is the place to tell someone special or the place to declare the commitment you two share. weddings and the event reservations are available for this adorable hidden gem. we know there are many other romantic parks in san francisco. we hope you have enjoyed this torre of lookouts, picnics, and strolls that are available every day. until next time, do not forget to get out and play. for more information about

reserving one of these romantic locations or any other location, call 831-5500. this number is best for special events, weddings, picnics, and the county fair buildings. or for any athletic field, call 831-5510. you can write us at -- or walk in and say hello. and of course you can find more information moresfrecpark.org. --