come up with major project, that's why i foresee all these coming. but that's what we are trying to push dhr trying to help us get all these requisition. unfortunately pamela mentioned about the computer program from controller office, the system. that's why we cannot --. >> i have been on ted yamasaki about our requisitions. we just got some approved by the mayor's office and i'm going to talk to him tomorrow -- hope he's listening -- and recommend we figure out what's holding things up in getting things through when they can see it on their side. but i'll work with the director and we'll work with the director at human resources and nicki and ted and see. >> why don't we leave it to

the president to see when we should ask dhr for an update and maybe sooner instead of later. i'll leave that up to your discretion. >> thank you, probably more sooner than later. okay, commissioners? >> i just second that. i remember this was a january decision but we knew a year and a half before that, that there was a strong possibility because it was a governor's initiative that they would come now in october and say, oh, put everything on hold seems a little -- their lack of planning or disingenuous. >> it's not on our radar. the director has been saying things are coming. it's not great but things are coming forward. deputy director, we understand you are doing everything you can here. >> i just wanted it point out not knowing about this was not anything that the director

would know about. i mean, we didn't know about it so --. >> i understand, yeah. >> it was one of those things where we hear about it one day and that same day. i want to just give him credit for, it wasn't his --. >> it's a big mandate for us, for all the commissioners here, as commissioner melgar has been saying for the last year. >> pam, i wasn't implying you knew about it but i think dhr did. >> looks like i'm on my way back to dhr >> do we have public comment? >> item 8b, update on proposed legislation. >> good afternoon, commissioners, bill strong, legislative and public affairs director. make this very short and

sweet. this has already been a long meeting. the one item about our permit extensions and expirations, that legislation is expected at land use in probably the middle of november so that is moving ahead as we want it to. the reference that the chief housing inspector, rosemary, made a little bit ago about david chiu's legislation on amending chapter 41 a for the apartment conversion ordinance, this has to do with going after especially commercial entities that may be with master leases subleasing to tourists operations that supervisor chiu is particularly anxious to stop. that legislation passed its second reading yesterday. as expected, the mayor will sign it before the end of this week, so that will actually take legal effect sometime about the time of thanksgiving. and as the chief housing

inspector indicated internally she is taking the lead on preparing the various steps the department will have to take to help enforce the provisions that are in those amendments. the only other one i wanted to address is what jane said about opening the door on commercial building, we have had mis take a look at our list of vacant buildings which right now is just a little over 500 buildings. it looks like we have 46 on that list that would fall into this commercial category. so it's obviously a much smaller number and we'll be working with supervisors it try to refashion that draft legislation accordingly. >> just on that, it would be your interpretation this is

strictly for commercial buildings? >> that's my interpretation of what she had to say. she was very keen not to put any undue burden on the department to make sure we received whatever cost recovery comes out of this. with that, i think i will stop unless you have other questions. >> thank you, don. >> 8c, update on permit tracking system. >> good afternoon, commissioners, hermine canto, department of building inspection. the project is on track. the core configuration is complete and we're in the build phase right now. the scripts and reports have been prioritized and they are in development. the interfaces to the core system is also being done as we speak. for the past -- during

the reporting period the department of building inspection and the planning department are working closely on the design and configuration of the access. it's the web portal for the public and project tracking system or the permit and the projects so the expectation is to form a citizen advisory group which consists of members from the community which would be, you know, members that use our system, design professionals, contracts by professionals and also one commissioner from inspector statements. the committee is expected to be somewhere between 15 and 20 members and they will be providing input feedback comments on the user interface and providing also the user acceptance part of it. regarding the time frames when they expect the level of time, effort will be coming out shortly in the next couple of

weeks. if there's any other questions on that i can answer. >> just the advisory committee. when would you like to hear back from the commission on that if there's somebody from the commission. >> as soon as possible would be great because we're trying to identify the members and within the next couple weeks the letters should go out from the department heads to the respective members. >> the department heads would send out the letters identifying who the different stake holders for the --. >> yes. >> for the commission. so if there's somebody from the commission here wants to put their name forward, i think it would be best to put it to sonia and we can decide if that works for the commission. do we have any idea how many times a month you will be meeting or the time frame involved? >> we are discussing that as we speak but the involvement would start in january,

probably for a span of 3 months, but the details should be coming out soon. >> thank you and thank you for the update. looks like we're almost there . >> item 8d, update on other technology projects. >> hermine canto, technology department of the department of building inspection. email delivery is almost complete, we should have that shortly. we have about 40 percent of dr requests coming through the web right now. on the cache management system, the good news is the tax director is scheduled to go live in november, which means we will follow within a few weeks after that. this is scheduled for the last week of november for the tax collector. we did receive the hardware, the cash drawers on the units, so they are going to be

installed shortly and then the training is scheduled for sometime in december. on the tablet pc's, we deployed a few tablets for the field inspectors, we did receive feedback for the service provider. we are gathering feedback and will be presenting options to make it better and possibly even a better service provider option to our director and deputy director in the next week, i would think. on the southern project, it's going fine. actually, we had a site survey from the contractor team and the architecture design team and they are putting the drawings together. hazmat survey was performed and wae do have a report on that, too. >> commissioner comments? seeing none, thank you again. >> thank you. >> is there any public comment on item 8a through district of

the director's report? seeing none, item 9, commissioners questions and matters. 9 a, inquiries of staff. at this time commissioners may make inquiries to staff regarding specific documents, policies and procedures which are of interest to the commission. >> commissioner mar. >> i thought we were going to get an update maybe on the, just a sum-up of the schematic, what was wrong with the schematic and if that could be prepared for the next meeting that would be helpful also what would be the possibility of reusing that system or partially that system and also some feedback from the vendor about the problems. >> yeah, we are working on that. i intend to do it next

commission meeting. >> any other items? item 9b, future meetings and agendas. at this time the commission may discuss and take actions and set the date of a special meeting and/or determine those items that can be placed on the agenda of the next meeting and other future meetings of the building inspection commission. the next scheduled building inspection meeting date is november 21st and the litigation committee needing a sketch for the day before that. i will be contacting the commissioners, that is the week of thanksgiving. we are in hopes of having a quorum. please let me know early in advance so i will know we have at least 4 people. is there any public comment on item 9, a or b >> november 21st, you say? ?oo ?a november 21 is the building inspection commission meeting.

>> when is thanksgiving? >> the 23rd, i believe. it's after, but i'm just putting it out there. >> after. >> the day after would be thanksgiving. >> yes, so it's the day before. it will be a morning meeting. it's a great day for a meeting. we can go for beginer after. >> item 10, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn. >> motion to adjourn. >> is there any public comment? we are now adjourned, it is 4.28 pm.thank you.

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>> good afternoon and welcome to the october 26, 2012 meeting of the local agency formation commission for the city and county of san francisco. i am david campos and i am the chair of the commission. we have our clerk is linda wong and we want to thank the following members of sfg tv staff for covering the meeting today. madam clerk if you could please call the role.

>> commissioner avalos. present. commissioner olague absent. commissioner mar, present. commissioner pimentel. commissioner schmeltzer. >> present. >> there is a quorum. >> thank you very much. if you could call item two. >> item two is the minutes from the special meeting. >> do you have the minutes of the meeting? before we take any action i would like to ep it up to public comment. any member of the public that would like to speak to item two? seeing none public comment is closed. colleagues do we have a motion? we have a motion by commissioner avalos and second by commissioner schmeltzer. if we could take that without objection. madam clerk will you please call item three. >> item three is reports and

update on cleanpower sf and update on the california puv, suggestions for items to be discussed at the last meeting. >> our executive officer nancy miller. >> yes nancy miller through the chairs. we have waiting for sf puc staff. >> shall we come back to this item? >> why don't we do that and see if anyone shows up. >> commissioner schmeltzer. >> i believe maises hale will be in shortly. >> if there is no objection let's move to item four. >> item four is studies on the voting process and for local offices in the city and county of san francisco. >> thank you. if we could now any mr. fried for a report. >> sure. jason fried and we

asked some changes made to the report. they sat down with myself and chair campos so they were invited to what they felt were suggestive edits to the report that they felt needed to make the report better. that report is in your packet and you can review it if you choose to make the changes. i wanted to mention because we rarely get communications from outside folks. we did get a comiewgz from cory cook and we got it late yesterday so if you have any questions on it i will be more than happy to try and answer those commission. >> commissioner avalos. >> thank you. i am just reviewing the letter for the first time. could you summarize it for me? >> sure. basically he is saying that the terminology used in the original report is fine. i used language that what would be the

traditional academic version of the language and he is okay. he doesn't feel there is a reason to make change scption he understands it's it was done accordingly and reasons why i changed the language is primarily it was the language used in the city and since was to deal with san francisco and the discussion going on at the time i wanted to keeplet language the same to that discussion and why i had the definitions the way it was and he wanted changes made that were more traditional in nature. >> are you a academic or a card carrying member of a amdemmic institution? >> no. >> thank you. >> before we take any action is there any member of the public that would like to speak on this item? seeing none public comment is closed. mr. fried

in terms of here, the lafco we can make the changes? >> yes, you can or if you don't want to. >> it's up to the commission. commissioner avalos. >> i don't feel strongly about makes changes. the report was complete. i am fine with the language and served our purpose here. if there are academics that want refer to the report they can use it in whateve setting they want. >> okay. >> seeing no other action let's proceed to item five. >> item five is executive's officer report. >> just for the record we of

joined by commissioner olague. >> commissioners the joint meeting is set for the 30th and when ms. hale arrives we will talk about the agenda items for that. at your chair you have the notice of cleanpower sf and it's in the english, spanish, and chinese, so i have really no other report. >> thank you very much. colleagues any questions for our executive officer? why don't we open it up to public comment. any member of the public that would like to speak to this item please come forward. >> good afternoon eric brooks and localing the local green party. sounds like you're moving so fast i missed the caa item which is a good sign. >> we're coming back to it. >> i wanted to speak in regard to scheduling and the joint

lafco caa meeting. i was at the last meeting and the first one started taking on community choice and cleanpower sf and rate setting, and i was -- it was good to hear at that meeting the chair actually say that we need a lot of the customer data and things like that, and a lot more study work to help advise the rate setting process before this is taken up by the sf puc and then the joint lafco /sf puc, and a lot of that data has just a couple days ago come in from local power, but it will probably take throughout november to crunch that and longer to crunch that and apply it to the rate setting, so i would just ask the various bodies to be flexible in their time line now. we have gotten this thing passed. it's on the

way and now we to make sure we have solid customer data and solid data in what we might be installing and inform the process of making the opt out better. possibly giving us better rates from the beginning or shortly therefore and making sure we're identifying customers the right way with regard to marketing this thing to them so we can way down below what is currently projected as 50% opt out and that is likely to go past the joint meeting next month, so just wanted to put that forward that we want to make sure that we're not rocketing too forward too quickly setting the rates until we have all the information we need from local power and other studies. >> thank you mr. brooks. any other member of the public that would like to speak on this item? seeing none public comment is closed. madam clerk if you could call item three.

>> item three community choice aggregation report and status update on cleanpower sf and update on california puc. >> and there are several reports and joint meeting that will be taking place and i will turn it over to the lafco staff and we were joined also by barbara hale. >> ms. hale will speak to the first item. >> commissioners. barbara hale, assistant general manager for power. since i appeared before you last our commission has authorized us to go forward

with a communications, customer notification the taft order with the winning group and we will go forward with targeting the group and what factors that we need to take to add the boards communications and the focus rolling it out, launching the program to customers with service as earliest as july 2013. we expect to be before our commission on november 13 with a proposal for how to incorporate the direction from the board into the

program, and then before the yourself and our commission in a joint meeting on november 30 where we will talk again about the same concept. how to factor in the direction we receive from the board into the program as we previously conceived of it. what the timing is that we envision to make sure that we're getting -- we're incorporating that direction and approaching the program at a pace that our commission and the lafco commission is comfortable with. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> ms. hale. ms. miller. >> yes. i believe we also have a stakeholder meeting scheduled to discuss -- this is the stakeholder meeting where we discuss the work of local power and we discuss the roll out so that is

scheduled -- i will you have three more rate meetings and next time we're together i think we can have kind of a complete, more complete package to you give in terms of rates and dates and other information. >> and i would agree -- thank you for catching the items i neglected to mention. i would agree with you except for i'm not certain that the rate fairness board will be in a position to advise our commission yet. i don't expect that will happen until december. >> okay. i do have a quick question and my colleagues probably have other questions but in terms of some of the issues raised making sure people that don't want be part of the program have ample opportunity to opt out is there going to be an outreach plan or a plan for ensuring that that is the case especially with communities where it might be more

difficult to reach those communities? so i am wondering if you could say a little bit about that. >> yes, we intend to conduct customer notification and education program. components that we talked about previously were very targeted toward the statutorily required opt out. now we're factoring in a preenrollment phase ahead of that opt out. that's the approach we think we're going to be recommending and how to ensure that communication and education that goes with that plan is as responsive and as complete and deep as it needs to be to make sure that we don't have any accidental customers. >> commissioner pimentel. >> what type of outreach strategies do you have to educate the community members about cleanpower sf and how will you go about implement them?

will there be community meetings or mailers? >> it's a all of the above approach at this point. as i said we just got our customer education and notification consultant on board -- authority really -- not even on board yet, authority to get them on board, so it's of course developing, but yes we see working with community based organizations, using community meetings. i would say that prior to our new direction from the board we had conceived of a more media centric approach and now i think it's more hand to hand engagement if you will that we really need to incorporate more into the program, and largely focused at that preenrollment part of the commca