any of you. first of all i guess i noticed that you have increased the number of units within the allowable amount as we know, and decreased the parking, and recently we had a presentation by tishman a fire for 201 folsom and they went in the other direction making the units larger and smaller number of units because they found that 400 i think 400 -- 300 -- the first infinity tower his more families with children and they felt the demand was there for the larger units, so this seems to be the ols in your case. maybe you can tell me the reason for smaller units and the two bedroom or larger is less than in our original entitlement. >> commissioner antonini i can

address two of the questions of the ones that you presented. i cannot address the tishman spire strategy in changing or creating their program. art stone is a rental developer, owner-operator, and the intention here -- one of the intentions in redesigning the project was to design a rental high rise. we think we've got it right. everybody has to make a subjective business judgment call in terms of the right balance and how many square feet for a studio, one bedroom, two bedroom is and is it 1100 feet or 1350 square feet? we have made a decision guided by the limits imposed by the eir and the original approvals to go to

the higher unit end of unit count and adjust the size slightly lower. we still have met the 40% two and three bedroom threshold. that's a factual statement and exactly where we were and recall us having been in 2005. in terms of -- the best way i can respond to the preponderance or not of families living in downtown hi rises is probably one hawthorn which is a project that my company developed and has 165 residential units and it's anecdotal information and not just speak for example art stone and i have provided to my

partners. we have approximately five families -- i think the definition of families parents with children living in the 165 unit high rise building. 10 units remain unsold but it can't skew the mix too much and the preponderance of the units are primary residents. they're not investor units. i don't know if i can shed anymore light on the question. >>i think you answered it and certainly sounds based on your experiences with hawthorn this is the best you feel that would work best for you and i am certainly supportive, and obviously these units are condo mapped so in the future they had to be sold they could be sold, and i really complement you also on the design -- redesign with

an outstanding architectural firm and improvement on the original design and much richer. i did have one question -- maybe it's more for the architecture tekt. you can probably answer. one of the renders look like a masonry finishing on the units and looks richer and some look more pale looking and i'm not sure what the pre-cast material is going to be or appear on that lower frontage that goes up about six floors i believe. i'm not sure of the floors it goes up. >> i think that is primarily a question that we should ask glen scal vo to answer and we have been sensitive to the way it can be successful and as a wall material can be unsuccessful and the elements that we have tried to integrate into those portions of the building have to do with

color, with add mixture, by creating release in the depth of the pre-cast panels and variety of finishes in terms of smooth and rough finish and a big palet that changes the way light is perceived and the surface of the building is perceived so i think we have a very skillful architect and tried to maximize the visual impact of that material. >> yeah. it looks like it's going to be -- just for my personal preference if it's a little bit darker it's richer on that part about the third level up to the six level. maybe he can -- >>i am getting outside of my licensing permissions. >> so basically the way that we have done it at the base of the building we have stone and glass. as you go up to the second three i will the seventh

floor it's a combination of metal, panel and glass and from there up we do is where we introduce the pre-cast because the pre-cast is somewhat of a -- not that -- a little bit more of a raw material we like to keep it high up on the building, so it's really perceived more as a richer material. we have done -- one of the things we're doing with the pre-cast is giving it a lot of angularity so it casts interesting shadows along the facade of the building. one of the things we have done successful on some of the other buildings is create exterior walls that have more kinetic feel to them so when the light moves around them they change and that's what we would like to do with this building. i hope that answers it is question. >> it does and i think the texture i see in the drawings

adds to the richness and i was expressinglet opinion of the midlevel and somewhat darker color to the metal exterior and any pattern that you could put in and break up the light reflection it will be upon even richer and the direction you're moving in. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> this is an informational presentation only. the one thing i wanted to say to the commission i am glad to see a tower redesign which is more residential in expression. it kind of lifted out of an area where we see more and more glass towers and for traditional purposes they're commercial and this looks residential and i welcome the redesign and the design meets that expectation and the code adjustments with the elevators as described so thank you. >> commissioners, that

concludes the informational item. we can move on to the general public comment. not to exceed 15 minutes. at this time the members of the public may address the items interest to the public except for agenda items and your opportunity will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. i have no speaker cards. >> general public comment. >> my name is genie quack and live in the university terrace neighborhood and i hope i don't offend the other commissioners and i support statements made by two commissioners. commissioner borden i agree with you there should be more informational meetings rather than just in commission meetings, but meetings about ceqa and other things so thank you for that, and commissioner moore i agree with you that the ceqa proposal

was tough to read in certain places and i am glad you're going to work on the language and clarification, and as part of that could the description in the agenda please include the word "ceqa" because a lot of people like me don't know what it means. thank you very much. >> sue hester. there are ceqa implications in what i am about to say. the concourse project was scheduled to come to you in december. now it looks like it's coming in january, and i will be the only person who has standing on the project because no one is paying attention to the fact that we are about to lose the exposition center of

the city through demolition. it's on your advance calendars. how many of you know what henry adams and are andin and i know that is demolition of the concourse. i have -- in the past month have been invited to kpfa's annual events which is in december, the green festival which was last week, and another thing. no one is paying attention because you don't give any notice and it will be exactly the same. notice only goes to property owners within a 300-foot radius and me because i get all notices. that is not very good notice. i have pleaded with the planning department staff, particularly environmental review, that they

require owner to give notice to all of the tenants. the tenants come in there once a year. kbfa and the green festival. no one knows they're about to lose their venue and it's on the calendar as a demolition 801 brandon and approval of massive condo project 801 brandon and henry adams and no one will be here because no one will know about. i wish the commission to over ride the staff and tell environmental review and the staff that you don't have to have a hearing on the project with no one getting notice. the owner knows who rents. it is not in the owner's interest to say a word about this, but i know about it, and i commented on it when i commented on the

eir. i'm the only person that has standing to pursue it, and with the scott wiener's amendments even less standing and please tell people you're considering demolishing it and with the board of supervisors and with that building. thank you. >> next speaker please if you're ready. >> hi. my name is reynolds cameron. i'm an individual and not representing anybody. i am married and just moved to san francisco in january and lived

in norway, copenhagen and france and shanghai china. i am here to speak about my experience about living on the south slope of po troro hill and how my experiences can shape how it should help you shape the future of san francisco. many of these countries have a very -- have been recognized as being innovative in incorporating the needs of low income and especially refugees from third world kowntsdz that have been going through civil wars and they have come to the scandinavian countries that are wealthy and have through their rental policies given them rental subsidies and still involved with market rate housing and because of this people are living together side by side instead of ghettoized public housing areas, and people

that wouldn't otherwise meet each other they live next door and go to the store and everyone knows each other and that enables them to l norwegian and you will see the five year olds speak perfectly even though they have curly black hair and in san francisco there should be focus on market rate housing and the discussion on micro housing and i lived in a small apartment of about 300 square feet in os low, in paris and copenhagen and the difference between that and my larger apartment here in san francisco those were nice and the one here is crappy. i can hear my neighbors when there was a discussion. over there the walls were thick. it was warm and nice appliances and taken

the walls were taken care it and it should include a certain decibel readying so you can't hear them next door and if public housing is considered a priority housing subsidies should be considered and this is probably the only time i will speak to the commission because it's not my job to come here and speak to you. i think surterrainian freeway and subway along 19th avenue and turning that into a opportunity to sell to individual housing owners or developers or whatever and that would create a lot of land for housing for this city. thank you. >> would you like to offer public comment? you can leave

it right there. thank you. is there any additional general public comment? >> good afternoon president fong and commission. my name is karen mint and i am a business owner and resident of the dog patch area. i would like to oppose the addition of the nine cell phone towers slated to go in on 3rd street. >> that is an item actually on the agenda. you will have an opportunity to speak to it when we get to it. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. any -- okay. >> hello how are you doing? i am eric barrett. i'm a real estate agent that does leasing and i just wanted to state that in general we see a great demand for individuals and couples for

smaller apartments in the city and what we find is that most of those individuals are priced out of the market, and having this opportunity to create a greater number of units in san francisco is a great benefit to all those individuals that want to be here in the city, so that's all i wanted to say. thank you very much. >> thank you. is there any additional general public comment? did you want to speak to a particular item? >> [inaudible] >> no ma'am for your benefit and other members of the public item 11 with ceqa modifications has been continued to november 29th from this date. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry. there was action taken to continue item 11? >> yes. >> can you state your name for

the record? >> david pill pow. can i make a comment at this time? >> yes. >> my understanding is that the 30 days provided under the board rules would expire this week so the commission wouldn't be entitled to make comment on that. was there discussion of that 30 day limit on comments from the commission? >> thank you. thanks for asking the question. we can't have dialogue during this public comment. >> okay. i wanted the commission had the opportunity to weigh in substantively on this ordinance and i am hoping any communication to the board would request for further time for the commission to comment on it just as they requested more time to comment on the proposed ordinance. >> director. >> just to be clear the supervisor agreed to wait until november 29 to consider the

matter at the board and would hear comments at that hearing. >> that's excellent and thank you very much. >> any additional general public comment? okay. >> okay. next item please. >> commissioners, it will place you under your regular calendar. item 12 the western soma community plan informational presentation number two. >> commissioners cory teague for staff. the next hearing in the line of hearings for the western soma community plan and adoption of the elements of that plan. just to give you a reminder of the hearings so far and in the future. on november 1 we had informational presentation to cover the background of the plan, the process of creating the plan and some of the key principles and outcomes of the

actual plan itself. last week november 8 you initiated the amendments to the general plan, the planning code and the zoning map. today will be is informational hearing to get into the specifics of the zoning changes and the planning code changes, and then you have scheduled the adoption hearing for december 6 and that is a public hearing where you first have the opportunity to certify the eir and adopt the amendments to the general planning and zoning code and zoning map, and then if that happens in that order you could also on that date hear the entitlement hearing for 338 fifth street but specifically today we're going to discuss the proposed zoning and height changes in western soma community plan and some of the controls adding to the plang code, give overview of controls for land use like retail and

housing and office and look at the intraim corridor and speak briefly about the administrative code amendments and overview of implementation within the planned area in terms of impact fees. so to begin and that's washed out there. i hope that you can see it better on your screens but the maps are in the packet also. this is the current zoning within western soma and you can sees since this was put in place in the plan and harrison street on the middle is essentially the spine. there is a somewhat different character north and south of harrison street that is strongly related to the presence of the freeway which somewhat kind of disconnects the neighborhood there. all of these districts are what are considered soma

mixed use districts, and generally north of harrison street where you see a lot -- on this map at least, yellows and greens, but generally mixed use and includes housing and south of harrison street where you have sli primarily housing is extremely limited only to affordable housing and then the far north east corner near fourth and tal mar you have several blocks here sso which is zoned office. the resolution the board of supervisors passed instructing the task force to under go this plan asked them to use the existing zoning as the base. it wasn't looking to necessarily reinvent the wheel or create new districts and that's what the task force came up with and the same philosophy

in terms of harris street being a dividing line along with the freeway. the major changes however is that there were no longer be any mixed use districts in western soma. they will be new districts fall under eastern neighborhood mixed use districts so north of harrison street in the red primarily you have wmg for western soma and the existing alleys and rad mixed district that is also found in the alleys but has more mixed use nature within the alleys and south of harrison sli is sally to what is similar today but emphasis on the arts and changes that we will talk about a little later on and in the north east corner along townsend and that area will be

wmou and still office district but extended down the length of townsend to seventh street and recognizing what is a hi tech corridor there and currently in western soma there are no neighborhood commercial districts but the plan is adding two of them to the area and the first is rcd runs along ninth and tenth street roughly from harrison to mission, and a little different from most neighborhood commercial districts. they're usually intended to create a fine grain nature, a lot of neighborhood serving using and residential above. that is essentially what is happening here but there is a recognition of the two corridors are trafficked by regional traffic. there are existing properties and buildings with

large floor plates in the areas and provide services that go beyond the surrounding neighborhood but there is an emphasis to make the streets not just regional thoroughfares but also neighborhood commercial streets, and then also along folsom street from roughly seventh to tenth is the creation of the folsom neighborhood commercial transit district, and that is more in line with the other nct's in the city, and as you know there are other planning efforts in the city including folsom street beyond this planned area. it's obviously a very important street for the future of soma in general, and these neighborhood commercial districts will be like other ones in the sense they have floor by floor controls unlike other districts in the city. again i mention but i want to point out under

the -- we do have rad's, the residential districts already in soma. there aren't that many and many alleys are zoned that way but you will notice with the proposed zoning more of will alleys are recognized and enclave districts are recognized and small scale residential and mix uses and not typically large sites and they're not just confined to north of harrison. there are also some within the sally, south of harrison as well. so moving along to the heights in western soma. this is a map of the current heights. the majority of heights in western soma range from 40 to

50 feet with some -- even 30 around the freeway. you get higher height along townsend street where they go up to 265 but the majority of the planned area is 40 or 50 feet. the proposed heights north of harrison street bring down the alleys where rads and the mixed districts are being expanded. those heights are coming down to respond to the creation of the enclaves but everything else is being essentially up zoned a little bit or moderately. they look at specific lots that are greater or collection of lots that are greater than half a acre and those lots are hashed and they have a split height district. they have a base height and a height above that and we will talk later how that works and similarly south of harrison street and sally

district you have a hash there split in terms of base height and a max height which you can achieve under certain scenarios and the highest amount of up zoning essentially -- or the height would be in soma along townsend street along the office corridor being proposed and this map just tries to give you a better visualization of the proposed height changes in the area. anything that's red in varying degrees is essentially going down in height. anything in blue is going up into height. the darker blues are some of the larger sites that are opportunity sites for residential housing and also along the townsend street corridor. so with that proposed zoning and height within the planned area right now we have

approximately 3300 housing units. under the current zoning proet ceterajected to 2030 we will more 6,000 under the proposed zoning projected 2030 more than 6200 for a gain of 209 units in terms of projections and with jobs currently we have jobs and grown to nearly 23 zoning and more than 24,000 for new jobs. going beyond just the zoning changes and the height changes there are some significant controls that in the planning code that are important to point out. as we have mentioned before the concept with western soma even though it's on a different time line