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into eastern neighborhoods so i want to make that clear it's not a separate system anyway. it's a part of eastern neighborhoods but look at western soma and projecting to generate $42 million in impact fees over the course of now and 2030, but if you look at the projected cost of the projects that we have and nearly 92 million so obviously there is a gap to be filled. that isn't uncommon when it comes to impact fees and projects that we need to empplentd around the city. to briefly go through some of the projects called out as priority. a park publicly accessible near eighth and ringgold. a number of alley improvements on various areas. also greening of the 12th corridor. 12 ethstreet is
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a pretty wide street. it actually doesn't get a lot of traffic and there is a lot of opportunity as an entry way into the western portion of western soma to green that significantly and grate green scape for residents and businesses in that area, and then also a child care facility within western soma which is definitely needed, and calls out specifically near eighth and ringgold but a facility in general is definitely needed. so in the same vain currently on the eastern neighborhoods cac there are four non voting members from western soma that sit on the committee. with the adoption of this plan and eastern neighborhoods part of the plan the vote members would be voting member exercise go from 19 to 19 members.
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>> >> the board supervisors would increase the appointments from nine to 11 and district six getting the extra two and mayor's pointees increase from six to eight and at large numbers increase from two to three so that say run down of some of the details in the zoning and the planning code and obviously the entertainment issues and staff is available for any questions you may have. >> thank you. is there any public comment on this item? i do have speaker cards here. brian tan and john golden. >> good afternoon commissioners. i am brian tan. i am here to speak on behalf of my as a resident of san francisco but i also serve on the entertainment commission for the city and urban planning representative. i sent you an email very early
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this morning but wanted to be present to speak publicly about it. after joining the entertainment commission january 2012 i was sought out by entertainment businesses along 11th street and offer my perspective on the western soma plan. they expressed concerns that the plan insufficiently dealt with the businesses as a part of the fabric of the neighborhood and low on options with that neighborhood. central to their concern is that while a new entertainment uses are permitted in the proposed plan south of harrison it fails to adequately support the viability of the area for the future entertainment of western soma. the citizen status as legal non conforming uses and continuation in the plan effectively treats these important stakeholders as an after thought. night time entertainment is prohibited in much of the area. it divides
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and relocated it rather than treating as assets in the community. i have learned to come and respect how professionally the businesses operate and how passionately they care about the community and the impact they have on the community around them and furthermore i am impressed with the work of the entertainment commission, the police department and leaders in the industry such as c mac and work tirelessly to make entertainment safe and accessible in san francisco. our commission has the power to cite, permit with condition, fine and suspend licenses to problematic venues and provides a direct path for residents and neighbors and anyone in the community to address concerns related to entertainment in every neighborhood. i am confident in our commission's processes and ability to up hold these processes and to hold a higher
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standard for entertainment industry when it comes to community relations especially along 11th street. now after looking through the plan it was unfortunate to see it short changes entertainment. it's prohibited throughout the plan. south of sally is permitted but this feels regressive and out dated perspective within any neighborhood. i urge you to support option that option and one other option that isn't listed and allow for night time entertainment as permitted use and wouldn't need to be rezoned. you can read my comments in my letter and thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you.
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>> commission, director i am john golman of goldman architect, the architect of a proposed building at the site of the infamous purple building and we submitted for permit and it's on hold because the clients would have to pay for $150,000 for their own eir and instead of that they have waited for the process to proceed which has taken another seven years. we had three meetings. the first meeting at swing and two meetings at the soma leadership council and at that time we met with representations of the night time entertainment industry and we actually changed the design of the building to meet the concerns. originally we had
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townhouses and larger family units and large scale building and on 11th as well as in the back. we redesigned the building so there is only one bedroom and studio apartmentos the front of the building so there are no family buying units on the front of the building so we made those changes in response to our meetings. we thought that met their concerns. i explained that with modern architectural design and other modern design there is no measurable sound coming from 11th street into those units so i feel they are compatible uses. the incompatibility that is being discussed is coming from older buildings with no acoustic insill laigz and designed long
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ago. if i was a young person i would be delighted to live on 11th street and i went to clubs all the time. i think there are lots of people that would like to live in the area so what happened in 2005 after we made the changes that the night time entertainment industry was requiring of it, which i was happy to do, and then they came back and any type of housing isn't compatible with night time uses so after i redesigned the building they decided that wasn't good enough, so what i am here to say with the proper unit mix such as what we're doing, proper acoustic design, proper mechanical system design housing should be allowed on that block and we have active permit on that site and i'm not sure with down zoning now -- what happened happen with our permit? normally you're approved to whatever is in effect at the
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time you submitted so i'm not sure what happened happen. thank you. >>i will call a few other names. doug caldwell -- did i call you earlier? i'm sorry. kowg cane. robert, go ahead. and tim colin. >> thank you for hearing me. i am robert cole. i run sunset and produce festivals in the city and consider myself an ombudsmen and speaking for the entertainment community. i listened to mr. meeko comments and i appreciate the work he did with the community meetings. i do want to refute a couple of his assertions. one western soma is not the most intensive concentration entertainment in the city. it's the eastern mission district and nor club openings are
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happening there because of this process and several have left and the paradise lounge has sat vacant in anticipation of what is happening. i don't know anyone that wants to open the vacant spaces and bring jobs to the area because of this uncertainty hanging over the head. when you have this uncertainty why would you want to build a business in that neighborhood? the other thing i would like to refute is that this whole idea that these residents didn't move into underneath a run way. slims is the best example of this. the folks that moved next to slims night club knew it was there since the 80's producing live music 689. it's one of the
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renowned music halls in san francisco and the one neighbor created thousands dollars of bills moved in after slims and they established a precedent of entertainment in the area and i don't think fair to the entertainment community and 11th street and all clubs and no residents. we have other areas of the city and have mix use and i live on a block and i enjoy some peace and quiet and there are plenty of places in the city we have that and that's why we have a planning and entertainment commission and a process that works to resolves the disputes and that's the final thing i will say we do have a process in place. the entertainment commission came in five, six, seven years ago and many of the conflicts that were described from the 90's don't happen now because we have a legal process and not everyone
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is happy but it's a rational process and it works to resolve these disputes in a sunshine infested above the board manner. thanks guys. >> hi. i am glen hyde and i am representing myself and i apologize for misrepresenting myself the last time i spoke. it was me trying it to get too much out. i said i was speak for example the commission and i wasn't and i would like that to be known and today as well. today i represent the neighbors and i don't see that we need to have a war. a lot of my work has been around better solutions to the problems that neighbors and entertainment are having. in my first year and a half with the entertainment commission i spent time talking about party buses who are extremely
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disruptive to neighborhoods and there is a bill that has been passed to manage under age drinking that is happening on the buss and we are going after with regulating the alcohol being served on the buses on a state level so we don't have this disruption and we think with these things coming out of the entertainment commission as well as soft close closings we can minimize a lot of impact and i don't think there needs to be a war or there needs to be a complete incompatibility. i appreciate the gentleman who was talking about housing that is built well and entertainment working together. i also would like to say that i agree with brian tan to rezone 11th street with 3b or permitting entertainment as a use in the mug especially since there are residential buffers and i would like to speak about limited live only being placed on the folsom
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corridor. there are many small businesses that will have influx of people into the neighborhood and hopefully to serve the neighborhood and the neighbors better we can allow limited live on the rcd as well so the corner businesses have all the opportunity to make it, and as far as i can tell the people who are moving into this area especially right now are many people involved in the tech sector and will continue to be in the tech sector and i see soma as being able to have growth similar to the mission and one of the things that is great there is that there is entertainment. it's full every night and we can only benefit these small businesses and continue to make them part of the community instead of a suing them from it. thank you very much. >> good afternoon commissioners. tim colin on behalf of the
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housing coalition. i spoke last week. we continue to be concerned by some of the design features with the plan intended to impede housing. i was struck by the figure of 209 units: if i understand right that's the new net units created under this plan. i hadn't seen that before. this goes back to the history of it in regard to how much consensus and agreement and how inclusive the process was i would say i remember it a little differently. if it was as inclusive as it was claimed we don't understand how the community stabilization plan could have included a metering plan for housing, for jobs, a requirement for housing affordability that isn't found anywhere else in the city and highly controversial features that made into the plan. we
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agree there are positive features of the plan that deserve our support and your-- and we believe this raises questions about the adequacy of this plan to address long-term housing needs especially considering enormous investment into the corridor plan. we don't believe that western soma doesn't take advantage of the e eir capacity. we have talked about architects and rear yard setbacksis better understood as
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a land banking plan than promote the type of urban youth we would like to see. we question why the zoning administrator is prevented from making rulings in western soma he might be able to make in other parts of the city and regarding that gap on impact fees where do the fees come from if a plan is designed to restrict development? we think it has a lot of work to do on it yet. thank you. >> good afternoon commissioners, i am kowg cane and hotel designer and developer. as you can see there is going to be a lot of conflict over this particular western soma
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district. i would like to call your attention to three zones of influence which have not been discussed today and those three zones are specifically mid-market development and the grocery store zone. i call it a zone. that is from trader joes all the way to food co including rainbow and costco which is really the grocery shopping area of the city and to a lesser extent the eastern neighborhoods housing restrictions which work with the mid-market development to really encourage development in this area in western soma, and if you take housing off the table west of harrison then you're going to leave a vast number of lots that are right now parking lots, car lots, or under lose used -- facilities
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and could be housing down the line. as i recall the housing was going to be about 6,000 plus units and now 6,000 plus 200 units. it's not addressing the needs of the mid-market workers and those people that want to live close to housing. the other thing i wanted to bring up which wasn't mentioned here is hotels. i know cory and jim worked long and hard on this and i know hotels is a peripheral component but it's a major employer in san francisco and there are programs at san francisco state and city college and right now the hotels are restricted to 75 rooms and 25 along folsom and frankly it's just not going to have many hotels built under those restrictions. in fact i would suggest probably none and i think the hotel rooms count
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need to go beyond townsend and clear need for it. there is not enough in the city and major employer and where you get jobs and no hotels along folsom and they have taken that out of the marketplace, so i think you've got to go upwardos both locations. thank you. >> thank you. >> is there additional public comment? okay. commissioners i will give you an option. if you would like to take a break now this item went longer and more in-depth and take a break with commissioner comments we can do that. i see some heads bobbing. so the commission is going to take a short break and come back to this item. thank you.
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