completely finally, the state develops the program and i think they're going to have county by county having someone at the accounting level run and manager the program but to be determined. these are some of the details i hope to be getting at this meeting. and then the last note is just a reminder >> february 7th. >> okay february 7th i have that completely wrong in my calendar. febrile 7th so that is a >> thursday. >> week from this coming thursday.

and it's the 60th anniversary for the county of merchants. so you can see the highlight of the mayors city he'd i have attacked the press release for you. you can take a look at other elements of the city and the successes that have trans paradise throughout the year. and that concludes my report >> public comment 1, 2, 3, 4. seeing none. i wanted to see the date >> i thought that was a bit

awkward but i trusted my calendar. and their website isn't up so i couldn't go back and verify. we'll we will verify that for you >> it is the 7 accounting. >> our retreat is on the 28 of february. is it the rae treat the wednesday >> i believe it was a thursday and thursday. >> commissioners should have - i don't know if you have. >> it's at 1 clock. >> we just changed over from different softwares. i'm going to blame it on that

and mr. president, would i like the next item called >> it allows the president to make announcements that are of interest to the small business community. >> and we're going to talk about b - i want to give you some information the fundraising efforts we raised $70,000 raised. we're right on track. we're currently selecting businesses to be photographed for a small business campaign so if anyone has any ideas let us know. our small business week is going to be may 13 through 18. our theme is shaping

communities. it's pretty much along the lines. on may 13th we'll be doing the favors of the city. we expect to have about 15 hundred people. you'll have to register online and we're limiting tickets on how many people can come. on tuesday may fourteen the board of supervisors will be - each supervisor will be selecting the winner and the mayor will select the winner from the whole city. and then we're going to be

offering 50 workshops and the topics is doing business with the government to how to toward a mobile truck business. we'll have other activities from 530 to 9:00 p.m. and small business commissioners we'll all be in attendance. then on friday may 17th small things will be taking place around the city we'll have more information later. on saturday may 18 there will be sidewalk sales. and we once again will wave the sidewalk fees.

and thalz i have at the moment >> what date again is the deal at the met iron. >> may 13 that can and we're trying, you know, if we get our funding we'd like to tint the outside because we'd like to have leave people come and so there's two key opportunities for the commission may fourteen the there no awards of sermons and then thursday evening for the awards. those are the two key things for

the commissions to be attending >> and may 13 to may 18th is what. commissioners i'll follow-up >> are we going to have a reception again. >> excuse me. and then the board of supervisors we will be hosting the reception. >> and is supervisors need to start picking somebody. >> businesses and they've already been notified. >> we'll sent out the safe the day invitation. we don't send them out earlier because they get lost and just a note for businesses we'll be looking at their permits so we

can make sure that businesss are meeting the requirement of city mandates. what's that? >> next item. >> i have a brief report and just for the record. >> i attended the district 3 allocation of discretionary fund. district 3 is the first grew up in san francisco where they will be taking us to the residence and to district 3 they'll decide how they want to spend their

funds. so people were able to submit their requests for these funds. they're number one interest was funding forecast inspections for ada businesses. i told them to contact the funds off. i want to say that was very high for people's interests >> next item. >> commissioners item 12 general public commit and do we have any people in the audience who would like to make any public comment? anybody have they items for new

business? seeing then next item >> commissioners item fourteen and i want to know there was any letters in your folder. >> any motion for adjourn? with that meeting >> the pledge of allegiance. >> mr. president, i would like to call roll. >> president mazzucco? >> here. >> vice president marshall?

>> here. >> commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner chan? >> present. >> commissioner kingsley? >> present >> commissioner turman? >> commissioner loftus? >> here. president you have a quorum and also with us is the office of director of complaints hiks and mike baoel. >> thank you very much, inspector monroe, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the january, 30th, 2013 police commission meeting, we will announce after the beginning, after general public comment, we will move briefly into the closed session matter to handle two personal matters. we do that for several reasons, one, the cost of the attorneys and also... and so i think that we need to get and handle that as soon as possible. and as we move to our agenda.

without further adieu, please call line item number one. >> line item one, adoption of the minutes, action, amended minutes for september 12, 201 2:singer adopted november, 28, 2012, for the meetings of november 28, december 5th and 19 of 2012. >> commissioners have the minutes in your packet, is there anything that you would like to add? >> i would like to thank them for all of the hard work on the minutes and i know that it is not easy. do we have public comment? hearing none. dpo i have a motion. >> so motion. >> moved, all in favor >> aye. >> line item two, consent caler, receive and file action, sfpd/occ's fourth quarter status report on general orders/policy proposals. >> in your packet are the documents from the sfpd/ooc's

fourth quarter status report and general orders and policy proposals. >> any comments? >> just a quick comment, i read this policy proposal and i found them to be really helpful and thoughtful and i noticed on the consent calendar so there is not a lot of discussion about it, but i do want to bring it back and actually ask where we are with the policy proposals and what the department's response to this, and i would like in the future to get response from the proposals. in any public comment? >> hearing none, >> closed. >> do i a motion. >> so moved. >> please, call line item number three. >> three, general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission, regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but that are within the subject matters and jurisdiction of the commission, address to the

commission as a whole and not individual commissioners or department or personnel. during public comment, neither the police or occ personnel, or commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public, but may provide a brief response, individual commissioners and police, and occ personnel should refrain, however, from entering into any debates or discussion during the public comment. please limit your comments to three minutes. >> public comment? >> commissioners, ray heart, san francisco, open government.

>> i appreciate if you stop my time... >> no problem. >> apparently you turned it off. >> is it on?

>> if i could get my three minutes, i would appreciate it. again, ray hartz, director of san francisco open government. one week ago officers visited my home investigating a comment based on me based on the public comments made at a library meeting. i asked for a copy of the police report and record of the visit. when certain documents were withheld, i followed the sunshine ordinance complain and on december 5th, the case was heard and they found the department in violation for of not with the failure to respond in a timely manner and i will give you a brief explanation as to what that entails.

this is the time line regarding the request. the library commission met on february second of 2012. i filed the incident report filed two days on the fourth and i was visited on the 6th. i expected and miranda another officer. on march the 14th i put in an idr following the discussion, even though they had visited my apartment there was absolutely no record in the san francisco police department records of the visit or our conversation, although that we spoke for over 20 minutes. and so on 3-16, the initial response came back however that was due. and on 3-16 when i had not received it i filed a petition with the director, the city

attorney's office, under their position as supervisor of records. and apparently, inspector miranda also misrespected to that city attorney that were there no records relating to this. i find it really odd to say at a complete police complaint is filed, an inspector and another officer are sent out to my home to talk to me about it and they keep absolutely no record of having visited me. i asked the inspector at the time, that does not sound like it is very sensable to me, what would happen if somebody filed a complaint like this and you visited it person and failed to keep a record and then that person actually did do something. how would the department look? i think that it would look rather foolish. what is going to happen with this, it has been referred to the education out reach and training committee, and i would like to give a prediction here on the public record. first i predict one of the first thing that nobody will show up. they will just ignore it like

this department likes to do when called to the carpet. second, they might send sergeant goss again, which i explained to you the last time i was here. and if he as arrogant and hostile to the members of that, it will probably get the same result to give the task force and send it back to the full task force with the recommendation that it be referred to the ethics commission who has completed a review process for these complaints when they

>> good evening, commissioners, good evening. i am also here to speak on the matter of tasers. obviously very current issue, right now. i want to thank the subcommittee particular for the

form that was held on the 22nd of january. where the community got a chance to voice its concerns and in particular, at that subcommittee meeting, during my presentation a few, there was a little bit of informational requests made to me and i brought with me the information requested and this is not the full amount of research that we have, and we are going to be sending another fuller report, by e-mail to the commission, and the subcommittee as well, but i have here, documentation of taser-related deaths in california. and actually excuse me, taser-related deaths in north america that establish that the majority have occurred in

california. i have a document here documenting the discriminatory that most are of hispanic or latino origin. i was requested to provide the commission any information on sheriff, san francisco sheriff and sfpd-related lawsuits and i have here articles documenting a $385,000 sellingment in an accessive force case and this was from 2007, i believe it was. and this was a gentleman by the name of mardad. alamazafor, a 27-year-old

medical student and this was a suit filed against the sfpd and the sheriff's department acting in coordination and it was actually a settlement of originally a two million dollar lawsuit. so i have documentation regarding this as well. and san francisco police officer jessy serna actually lost his job finally over this suit. i have the documentation and i would like to request that the copies be made for the commissioners specifically those on the subcommittee. >> thanks for the public comment. >> hearing none, public comment is closed. please move on to line item number seven, number six, excuse me >> public comment on all matters pertaining to item 8 below, closed session, including public comment on vote to whether to hold item 8 in closed session. >> public comment on this? >> commissioner ray hartz, director of san francisco open

government. when i came for the first time i made an objection to the same maneuver, you have 20 people in the room waiting for general comment and they stopped in the middle of an item, item number two was done and they went into four closed and stayed there for four hours and all of the members of the public left. there were a number here who walked out with me, about a dozen of them outside, making rather nasty comments about the police department and the police department because they had come and meant to talk with you folks. and yet, at the last minute, the whole thing was maneuvered around so that they were denied their opportunity to do so. and very frankly, i think that what i have seen happen because i do watch these meetings when i don't attend them and i watch you maneuver the agenda around so if there are a lot of people here to make public comment you come in the last minute and say that we are going to move this over here and this over here, and as a result, the bottom line is people don't get it.

so i had another item that i was going to talk on the next agenda item, but now i am going to have to sit in the hall and wait for an indeterminate period of time to have the opportunity to do so. everybody always complains about your time, your effort and your energy. what they fail to take into account is that members of the public rely on these agendas to decide whether or not to come here to speak to you. and they have to... they have other lives, and they have to make arrangements for their children, to pick them up after school and have them taken care of with their job or whatever and they do that based on the agenda that you put out 72 hours in advance. in you come in every time and you do it almost every time. you come in and you rearrange the agenda. like right now you are going to go into closed session for some period of time, and if i asked you what it was you will go, i don't know. and so members of the public who come here to talk to you

get the message very clearly, very quickly that even though you mouthed the words, we would like the public input, you really don't mean it because what you do in actuality, is rearrange things so that they are denied that opportunity. so if you going to do that, at least don't be hypocritical and say how much that we enjoy and appreciate public participation. because if you did, you would not do things like that this. >> i don't order thaterly respond, because regardless of what people say, all input on the issues not only the public comment here but also the public comment by e-mail and often times even when i get home from my neighbors in my driveway. i will say, that it is not often as a heard mentioned a moment ago that we shift around the shift around the agenda,

yes we do change the agenda from time-to-time because of issues that come up. and because it is important for us to be nimble and be able to address concerns and things that come up in an efficient manner we do change the order of things. to the extent that that is troubling to anyone, it is not personal, but i certainly apologize for it. but, there are personnel matters that have carried over that we need to address right away. and president mazzucco made that plain, no one is trying to not listen to the members of the public. we are members of the public and we have sat and listened and our time is... we sit up here and listen to the things you say, because they are important. even when you unnecessarily berate and attack us for trying to be efficient.

so to the extent that this is troubling to anybody, i apologize and this has to be done in this manner and we will try and minimize this in the future. >> amen. >> just for the record as i stated earlier, it is perfectly appropriate to move something on the agenda so long as you announce at the beginning of the meeting which we did do. as the commissioner said we do not always move things around on the agenda, and the reasons for that while we moved this is there are several reasons including the city attorney involved is ill, we have a replacement there is a flu bug going on and the cost and everything of the matter that has been continued. mr. hartz you do not run this agenda the commission does. >> you are out of order, mr. hartz. >>... i could not even speak. >> thank you for the public comment for the public session. hearing none. call the next item.

>> the vote on whether to hold item eight in closed session. >> do i have a move? >> i move. >> second. >> all if favor? >> aye. >> thank you >> mr. president we are back in session and you have a forum. >> please call, and removing one of the agendas off the agenda for next week, and that is the officer involved shooting investigation, process. and that is being moved to next week's agenda, and without further adieu? >> yeah, again, just to i know that in the interest of time and i want to get to the presentations that are ahead. the department as we closed