ready to adopt anything on march 25th. >> so i am not really, i am just going to at this point i am going to ask the board members what their thinking is. i think that we have to end the presentation at this point. so, directors any thoughts? >> my only thought is that i would like to be presented with options that the team believes would be appropriate to move on, not only options that the team believes would not be appropriate to move on. >> so i understand the team does not want to cut on the rva analysis, again, i do not want to second guess that. so how about being presented with options that get the number down that the team believes would be constructive? >> we actually we are going to present you on this. >> as part of this presentation. just a reminder to everyone, we are on march 25th, we will be looking to present to you is an action item to recommend to

allow to give the design team allowing to move ahead for the rva and we have to move on the rva because the construction documents are due may 31st and the longer we put that off the more expensive this project becomes and it defeats everything that director metcalf is looking to do which is save money. the seconds thing that we are going to come back to you on march 25th. was a recommendation on what to do further with skanka, do we ask the board to allow us to negotiate further? reject the bid? and they will have a recommendation for you then, we are not coming to the board on march 25th, with the recommendation to adopt the reserves and contingencies we can at this point because we need to give web corps times to relook at the whole structural steel, do we repackage everything? do we redesign the steel in some way to be able to give the response that you asked for. so march 25th, would be allowing us to move so that the

design team could finish and that would just include the direction on the rva and the direction of what to move forward and that is it for march 25th and changing the facade from the grass to the metal and we can do that presentation as well. i would ask the board to consider maybe starting our meetings at 9:00, we have a very complex project and i understand, we have never had a time limit for when this board meeting would attend but it appears that most need to leave at noon and i would ask for consideration that we could start earlier, i can start as early as anybody can available and but we really need to start thinking about starting earlier, because there is a lot and it is a huge project and a lot of material and we don't want to keep disappointing the public that we are going to present something and we don't have the time. please allow us some consideration. >> i think that is an important request. any other... i am happy to start the board meetings at 9:00 a.m. if there is no objection, we can certainly.

>> and i want to apologize to those of you who are here and not getting to present. >> i also just asked the board members if they can let me know in advance when they have meetings schedule afterwards so i can give staff a good sense of when our meetings need to end by, these presentations are great actually. i really appreciate the incredible level of detail, but i think that we don't need to go over it orally. i think that it is important for us to see visually. >> i think just to that last point, it would be helpful to get these in advance so that then we have, you know, for us and the public to be able to review and we don't have to go bullet by bullet. i am glad that hear that we are not going to need to try to contemplate a full budget adjustment at the next meeting because we will not be ready for that. what would be helpful in addition to what the previous director's mention, one would be an understanding of what the change process is within the program. i don't know if there is a

change board or a configuration board. because it seems like there is a lot of things that have kind of moved along the course of the program, and it would be helpful for us to understand how those things get vetted and if we could cover that at the next meeting and we seemed to have stopped getting or receiving the monthly reports which was the one thing in writing that they were getting each month. maybe i missed it. i don't feel like i have seen one in a couple of months and that would also help with my understanding of what is happening here. and then, i guess to the point about to what extent the current projections what they are anticipating it sounds like for the steel, the estimate was going up over time and we ended up with something quite a bit above and i think to director metcalf's question what does that mean for the glazing and the other big packages and the other big packages that you referenced are still to come? i guess that it is more than a

third and we have big ones that are further out in time and subject to further escalation and out for one of those packages and i am wondering what comfort level that we should on the estimates now and what we are seeing for at least this one, just the recommendations to cover at the next meeting. >> that is helpful, director could you repeat the first one? because i did not quite catch the first one on the order and the change of the process? >> like to understand what the program's change process is. so how we get to the point where we are needing to authorize additional design budget. >> how we move from one? >> where internally how those decisions are being made to advance to the board? >> okay. >> and we do have a change management, budget change management procedure, that documents exactly how that is done, and the sign-offs and approvals. so we can send you that,

procedure in advance. >> perfect, thank you. >> okay. so, i think that that is good. it is a good way to move forward. i do want to say as we move forward with the entire budget through april and may, if it is that we are just looking at 164 million dollars, it is 164 million dollar gap, i still would like the number to come down more. that is just where i am at today. i actually think that the presentations have been great in explaining why they are the way that they are. but i just... it is a big number for me, still, to swallow. and the last feedback that i just wanted to give is that given how competitive, the construction market is today, i think that we need to be very thoughtful about our rfp process and i think that in years past we could be more thorough and ask the bidders to give very complicated packages, and bids to tj pi, i think that given the current climate that

we should think about how we could be competitive in attracting the bidders. i want to commend the staff and i think that the staff is thorough and this is not, i am not being critical of that, because i actually appreciates that level of ten acity and detail, i just want to be sure that we deliver the project to our city within a budget that works. given the public tlars that are spent on this. we are meeting again on march 25th. >> i am going to keep that time at 9:30. >> has it been publicized yet? >> it has not, so we could make the adjustment. >> it seems to be a shorter meeting. >> it feels like 9:30 works for that one. >> i would suggest nine because we are going to have the presentation by fred on the skin. and maybe some questions. i really would recommend 9:00. there was never, there is

nothing written anywhere that this meeting ended at noon, but if that is what the board wishes we need to start earlier. >> we can start at 9:00. >> i will have a hard stop on monday because i am on a committee in the afternoon so i can have the meeting go past 12:30. >> so we will start at 9:00 a.m. on monday march 25th and do that there after. >> and at least in spring through june. >> so we will actually have to adopt the change of the bi laws and we can call the meetings every month. >> i would rather keep it special meetings for may, april and, may, i think that once we get through, this, through the budget, i think that meeting at 9:30 will be appropriate. >> i don't want to go through changing the by laws. >> okay. >> that would be my preference >> thank you so much. the staff, and thank you so much to board members and if there are no further announcements are discussions the meeting is adjourned.

>> -- to track stolen phones to be used in the field for other investigative purposes. that is approximately 977 dollars. >> you have a memo from the captain in your packets regarding this do nation. ironically to track cell phone thefts. is there anything you'd like to add? commissioners, questions or concerns? and is there any public comment regarding this matter. >> [inaudible] for quite a few times starting when he was the secretary for the police commission. i have a great deal of respect for him. i

believe his promotion was well earned and i think in the [inaudible] if there's anybody in the department who would utilize this effectively it would be him. >> any further comments on this matter. hearing none, now closed. do i have a motion for acceptance. >> i move. >> all in favor. >> approved. line item number two. >> the public is now welcome to address items that do not appear on the agenda but are in the subject matter of the commission. on the police commission rules of order during public comment no commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. we should

refrain from entering into debates with public. >> good evening. how are you. >> i am fine. you get to be both the cutest guy in the room and the most powerful. >> you made my day. thank you. >> i hope so. and hello to jen. i haven't seen you in a long time and i hope that you did have an opportunity to read a street sheet when he was captain at southwest station and i wrote an article for the coalition on homelessness street sheet and it was called hotel hell and it was about the baldwin hotel. and there's a wonderful picture of you and the caption is although frequent visitors to the hotel, police never pay the visitors fee. so i don't know if you ever got to see that but that

was, like, a million years ago. the reason i'm here is that i want to nominate a person for what i call the citizen's appreciation loan ranger lunchbox award. the /p*eurs i would like to accommodate is our captain for doing his loan ranger bruce lee combo in taking down a perpetrator who decided to pray upon an 80-year-old man in a walker and assault him. i'm looking

forward to working with captain redmond. i hope i never have to see him in action, just the results of his good work. so this made it into the chronicle and there are others appreciative of that. i, having been in a walker since 2005, feel vindicated, but sadly so 'cause that could have been me going down the street. so it's good to see all of you and i'm taking bruce lee and the loan ranger back home to my apartment where i'm always armed and dangerous. that was

for officer julio [inaudible]. one of our finest. >> next speaker please. >> if you didn't find out we have a new pope and he has chosen a name of francis and he is from argentina so it is the first time a hope has been elected in the western hemisphere. last month someone took exception to some of my remarks. i'm amazed when someone challenges the actions of a police officer no one has

the integrity to show up to offend their own actions. the reason that was filed against him is because the law strictly cites that it has to be an elected official or a department head and bottom-line i was in the military for quite a few years and one of the things i learned is the co is responsible for everything that goes on under his or her command. one of the comments that mr. [inaudible] made were regarding sergeant goss. he talked about all the expertise

he had, experience, so forth, but sergeant goss for all his expeer seize cannot answer a simple idr in compliance with the law. some people say i want to embarrass people with my remarks. if the order is embarrassing, it is members of the legal division that have embarrassed the chief, not me. the simple fact that the legal division can't seem to accept a public records request and answer it on a timely basis is unacceptable. and the chief is responsible to see that all of the officers, all of the staff under his command follow the law. in in this case he did not. you can say you're just

being picky, but on a nine to one vote turns out i was right, it was not responded to properly. in particular they question to him is if a member of the public wants to file an immediate disposal request by email, what email address should they use and he couldn't answer the question. >> next speaker. any further public comments and general public comment. hearing none, now closed. please call line item number three. >> review of recent activities regarding [inaudible] robberies and prevention forth quart /-r 2012. >> thank you members of the department and members of the public. i'm going to /ub date you on the recent events that

have occurred in san francisco. as you know i'm filling in for chief [inaudible] in virginia. in addition to being in virginia he made a side trip to washington dc to talk about the bipartisan committee on gun violence and he stroke directly on a straw buying purchase that occurred in san francisco. i'll go through what the recent events that have been newsworthy from the chief's last report to this report, i'm happy to report that it's been relatively quiet. we have not had a homicide report. i still knock on wood for that. our violent crime has continued to decrease with the exception of our property crime and one of those crimes is gonna be discussed tonight regarding the

robberies of iphones tonight and that type of thing. we seem to be up in robberies. they continue to be up and the presentation tonight will address that issue, along with prevention measures by the san francisco state division. some of the newsworthy events that have occurred was unfortunately we had a shooting on march 7th of bryant street. it occurred at 3:48 am. a male was shot in the torso. he was in his 30s, he was a passenger in a vehicle. the driver was not shot, the driver drove around looking for a hospital, flagged down a parking patrol officer mission in main, asked for directions to the hospital. they then stopped at davis and the victim was transported to san francisco general hospital.

that is under investigation, we do not know the determination or cause of that shooting at this time. there was also a couple press releases. one was that there was an arrest made in san francisco regarding human trafficking and that is where a members of our special victims unit -- inspectors there -- the officers at richmond station and the fbi conducting investigation on prostitution of a minor. there was an arrangement made with the minor in the rich land district there where investigation was conducted and two male suspects were arrested for human trafficking. another news media that was unfortunate was we had attack of a 2-year-old toddler in golden gate park at

the children's playground carousel where a female 28 yores old literally kicked a toddler that wasn't 2 years old. the officers responded from park station and did a wonderful job and table to take the suspect into custody. the 2-year-old girl was gonna be a flower girl in a wedding. she did not offer serious injuries at all, but just the emotional trauma to her is gonna be quite concerning to us. once again, an arrest was made in that. as the chief reported last week the public safety hub on the sixth street corridor was opened. as soon as it was open

our officer quickly immediate an arrest as he was leaving the offices there where he witnessed an 80-year-old male in a walker being accosted by a suspect who literally punched him and knocked him to the ground. the officer sprung into action and took the suspect into custody. shows the great work they continue to do out there, especially the foot beats on sixth street. today also opened the other safety partners on sixth street along with public safety department are all now in and out of that office. so we're having some collaboration and a lot of discussion about what we can do to make that sixth street corridor even safer. and what else? i'll just go

into what the chief reported, what retestified to in the bipartisan regarding the straw purchase. i'll explain that a little bit. that is when a weapon is purchased by someone who can legitimately purchase that weapon or they give it to a purpose who is prohibited from having weapons or an out of town buyer bringing it across state lines. i know the chief had described a gun trafficking ring in which a convicted felon recruited his girlfriend and her father to buy over 100 guns and ship them from atlanta to california. the guns wound up in the hands

of kids and one of those guns was used in the murder of the chief of lapd. i am open to my questions about what i just discussed and there's also two other presentations following. >> if there's any questions for the chief regarding the statistics and recent events. >> thank you for the report and filling in for the chief while he does this important trip. it good to know the sixth street substation was open. was there a ribbon cutting for it? >> on friday there was a grand opening of the public safety hub. we're trying to get away from substation because it's a collaboration of a number of public safety agencies, not

just the police department. >> i'm glad you're giving us the right terminology. i missed it and i would be really excited to see it in person so i'm just proposed for the commissioners that we do a tourover it and we don't -- we do it with the right number of commissioners. any other commissioners interested? so we have three and we can take turns going in there just to see the community partnership. the reason why i think it'd be helpful is we've had quite a bit of testimony from the merchants on sixth street and i think it's important to see it so we can talk about it in firsthand experience. >> i was by there just recently this week so i've been so i don't need another tour. >> and then i don't know if i fully caught the piece about the guns that was used in the

shooting of the pd. can you go through that more. >> the guns were purchased in georgia and were brought illegally into california and the guns were sold to people prohibited from owning guns and they're called straw purchases. so they legally buy the weapons and sell the guns to people prohibited from possessing a firearm. and i failed to report the atf was highly involved in that investigation also. it wasn't just san francisco police department, but that is one of the major concerns that we have is the flow of guns from another states coming into california. >> that's what chief is testifying? >> yes. >> okay. thank you.

>> mr. kingsly. >> thank you for your report and for being here. regarding the collaboration of various safety participants in this hub on sixth and market -- is this the first time, is this the first collaborative safety hub we've created in san francisco? or are there others... >> this is not a new concept to the police department. we're always looking in collaboration with our other public safety partners, not only with local but federal too. but this is one of the first we 've opened up on the sixth street corridor, which is a very challenging area. so we want to bring all the assistance that people may need on sixth street to prevent them from committing crimes. >> it's a terrific idea. i just wasn't aware that this was something that we had actively

in place in the city elsewhere. thank you. >> on the straw purchases, can you tell us -- to me it's a little confusing. how do they break the chain of ownership so that -- if you purchase a gun and assuming it's immediately traceable back to the person who purchased it? is it reported stolen or are the serial numbers removed. >> all of those. legitimately guns can be sold that are legal in california. you can purchase a /weup. it then requires -- but once you purchase a weapon, you have it in hand, what happens to it after that -- a number of things can happen. it can be taken in a burglary from you,