we've got a committee where there are four men and there are two women. and and the ethnic makeup of this committee are primarily caucasian i think with the exception of you, mr. alloy. ~ alloy. >> alloy, thank you. so, i really make it no secret what i'm trying to do is, again, bring diversity to, to this commission, to this body, to any committee that we're dealing with here. because what i see this as is a committee a a pipe -- this committee and cacs are a pipeline that we are filling that will produce ~ the next leadership. so, the next supervisor, the next member of the board of education, so on and so forth. so, it's important that we are putting into this pipeline and training a really diverse population. so, we have the ability, we've got 8 applicants and there's

actually 3 seats. so, i can tell you that i had an opportunity to sit down -- to meet with minnie ingersoll and met with kia, and then i believe jonathan alloy also reached out to our office. and also for the people in the future, it's really helpful when you reach out to us because it gives us an opportunity to have one on one time and to develop a more of a feel and sense of direction of who you are and what direction you'd like to bring the committee that you're going to be working on, direction that you're going to bring this committee in. so, i just put forward three names of folks that i was most impressed with. maybe that might help you. >> what are they? >> again, not a problem. ms. ingersoll, [speaker not understood] and ms. alloy. >> thank you for your thoughts. so, here's my thoughts.

again, a tough decision here. but i am impressed with many of them, of the candidates. and the ones that sort of floated up to the top for me included jonathan alloy, your commitment and what you've done and you have proven that you're already in leadership within the group. and the other person that floated to the top for me was kia. and i looked at her resume. i didn't get to meet her personally. when i looked at her resume, the wealth of experience she brings into this group would be great. and the fact that somebody came and spoke for her speak volumes since the person that spoke for

her, leah, is somebody i also respect. so, those are my two choices at this point. >> okay. so, that didn't necessarily make it any easier. but i did want to ask mr. bowen a follow-up question from his presentation, if that's okay. what stood out to me was some of the things that you mentioned about the past and some of the challenges that we face. i know that you served on the -- what is that called -- oh, civil grand jury and you also i think briefly mentioned some of the challenges that we have had with the bond for laguna honda and those sort of things. and that really stuck out to me

because i think you understand some of the history and some of the challenges, including the school bond and other things that were -- the one that i was most specifically aware of was with the schools that was probably around 2000, 2001 where there was criminal conduct really. i think, i think most of the others were either problems that have been more i'll say incompetence, criminal kind of activity. and, so, i'm not expecting to find criminal activity. i don't know that we'd be specifically looking for that, but it's more competence of project administration i think that i'd be interested in. >> so, can you kind of explain the level of detail that you plan to explore as it relates to your responsibilities on

this committee? so, projects can go wrong. scope documents are critical, and a path of benchmarks are critical. and i'm -- and there is always a amount of contingency, money. so, the attitude about how and whether the contingency money has to be spent i think is important. if you max the spending to fully account for all the contingency money before you really get down the path on the project, i think you can have a significant problem. so, an element for me is having benchmarks, having a very good scope document, having good review process, and understanding how you manage your contingency funds. >> thank you.

thank you so much for answering the questions. i just wanted to say one of the other things that stood out for me when mr. bowen mentioned, and i may be misphrasing you, but you're more interested in preventing the problem from happening in the first place. and i think that oftentimes we forget that dealing with matters of this nature requires consistency and active involvement and really staying on top of these kinds of situations and they're very detail oriented. so, i just wanted to let you know i really appreciated what you had to say and you really stood out for me as a possibly great candidate for this particular seat, as well as minneola who i think would be absolutely wonderful, her energy and excitement about

this particular job could really help do some great things. and i also really was impressed with what susan -- susanne berg had to say as well as jonathan. so, you know, it doesn't mean that i wasn't equally impressed with the other candidates, but as you can see, this is a challenge because i think the city would be well served with any of those candidates for so many different reasons. so, i am really -- and i've got to say as a big part of why i wanted to even be supervisor in the first place is accountability. oftentimes we lose at the hands of folks who have mismanaged and misused funds that were intended for good, like in the case of the school, the school board, the bond that passed for the schools. and the misuse of those funds years ago, and the fact that

mr. bowen understands -- he has that history and understanding of some institutional knowledge and he brings that to the table. and i think that helps to create , you know, better transparency and oversight. and also with mr. alloy who is actually in there doing the work and on top of things and seems really passionate about what he's doing and definitely well informed. so, that's where i'm at. i don't know what to do because i'm not the veteran shareholderv. -- veteran supervisor. i just started, norman and i. supervisor cohen, maybe you can help us out, because i would have never expected a decision to really choose between such amazing people. ~ this is really a challenge. >> let me make a comment here. just so the public doesn't

mistake what's going on with the school district, i'm glad you said that there were some issues with bonds with the school district years ago. and i want to make sure that people understand that was years ago. i was on the school board for eight years and there was no mismanagement. we handled a bond very well and always had an a-plus report. >> this happened before you joined. >> also we don't want to have people lose confidence with something that happened way before. so -- >> that's why this body is so extremely important. so -- >> what i'm hearing, i'm hearing one common thread between the three of us with the tough choices. i think mr. alloy has been mentioned by all three of us. i would venture to think that we could support him for one of the positions, i guess seat 3. >> 3.

>> and, so, that leaves us with one more choice. is that okay to move in that direction? >> i'd be happy to make a motion to move mr. alloy to seat 3 as our choice from the rules committee. >> okay. is there a second? >> second. >> okay. without any objection, we will move mr. alloy for full recommendation to the board. do i have to hit this for him? [gavel] >> we have to do seat 1. >> right. so, open for suggestions for seat 1. there's -- there has been i believe -- want to make sure i

get everybody's names correctly. where are they? so, i have heard kia's name mentioned twice and i've heard mina? >> minnie. >> i have heard minnie's name mentioned twice and mr. bowen's name mentioned once. >> mr. bowen was qualified for both seats. >> right. so, there's i guess -- >> i'm happy to make a motion. >> go ahead, make a motion. >> i'm happy to move minneola ingersoll to -- for seat 1.

>> is that it? i can second that motion. >> seeing that there's two votes for that, i'll go ahead and make that unanimous. so, without any objection, we'll move omotalade? no, i'm sorry. >> ingersoll. >> ingersoll to the full board for recommendation for seat number 1. [gavel] >> thank you very much for coming. >> i think it's difficult to say [speaker not understood] susannes don't leave yesterday. -- yet. i don't want you to be discouraged throughoutv this process. what i want you to learn from this is outreach is critical. that you talk to every member of this body so we have an

opportunity to get to me. that is also with regard to mr. bowen and mr. harper and all persons that apply today. it is more difficult to just go off of the interview -- two minutes at the microeconomicand an application. there is room for everyone at the table, and you shouldn't walk away feeling discouraged at all, that there are other capacities that you can continue to look to serve in san francisco in. thank you. >> and second that. thank you very much. okay. so, this item is closed, i believe. it's not closed yet. we still have seat 2. i'd like to have a motion to continue. >> so moved. >> second. >> with no objection, we'll continue seat number 2. [gavel] >> to the call of the chair. >> yes, to the call of the chair. let's move on to the last item, i believe. madam clerk? >> item number 3, hearing to consider appointing five

members, terms ending january 31, 2015 and january 31, 2016, to the mental health board. there are 5 seats and 7 applicants. >> i believe [speaker not understood], you're here from the mental health board? >> yes. >> to speak on the duties of the mental health board. would you like to do that? >> mr. chair? >> yes. >> may i speak? i just want to speak on something else for item 2. i just wanted as a point of clarification, i think we had questions about whether or not bob muscat was a city employee and the city attorney has just informed me that he's not a city employee, but he is the executive director of local 21. so, that is why he was able to serve on the oversight board.

>> okay. >> so, this is just a matter of clarification. thank you. >> thank you very much. [speaker not understood]? >> all right, thank you, supervisor yee and supervisor breed and supervisor cohen, for having this hearing for mental health board seats. we didn't have quorum the past two meetings, so, it will be great to have some new and excited passionate people along with hopefully reappointments of some of the people who have already served. the mental health advisory board is a state mandated board, and every county in california has a board, a mental health board or commission. and they range in number size from 5 to 17 that we have here in san francisco and that we have in los angeles. the seats are a mix of about a third family members, people with a family member with serious mental illness and

clients or consumers so people with a serious mental health diagnosis. and then we have a total of three public interest seats and, so, that's just people interested in mental health. and then two mental health professionals. none of the -- oh, and then the final seat which i wanted to take a half second to advocate for, we need a member of the board of supervisors. so, if any of your colleagues would be interested we'd love to have you. but the seats are all -- the residents of san francisco. they are people who by state law cannot work for any program funded by community behavioral health services. they can be city employees for other departments. they can work in other organizations as long as their funding does not come from community behavioral health services. ~ and i have served as the executive director since 1999 because i feel this work and

the oversight work, the passion that they bring and the experience that these members bring from, you know, living the experience of being with a family member or being a client, being a professional, and really working in the community. so, does that answer inform your zimbabwex about the board? ~ your questions about the board? >> yes. any other question? thank you, ms. brook. now we will be hearing from the applicants in the order they appear on the agenda. i hope i pronounce this name right. errol, is it errol wishom. please approach the microphone. good afternoon, commissioners. my name is mr. errol c. wishom. i'm here for reappointment to seat number 12 on the board of

mental health where i served for three years. prior to serving on the board, i grew up in a family of eight. i'm a native san franciscan. my father and mother were married 59 years. i'm the youngest. i attended rear don high school, archbishop rear don high school. i'm a former marine and i worked at safeway 12 years where i took a retirement because of mental illness. i really enjoy my work and duty on the board. i'm very active on the board. i attend meeting every second wednesday of the month on a regular basis. i am also on the smurf committee where i'm the secretary and treasurer. i have an excellent resume and

dynamite performance and i really appreciate your consideration for reappointment to seat number 12 on the board of mental health. if you have any questions, you can call me and i thank you very much for your time today. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none, thank you very much. thank you. >> next person i have on the list is lena miller. is it okay if we speak on lena's behalf? >> yes. okay. i want to start because i was the one that said that it was okay if she didn't cancel her vacation this week, to be able to attend this. she is the only applicant for reappointment to the mental health professional seat, and we so value her presence on the board. she presented to our board on this past month the results of

the trauma summit that she convened in november of 2012 and you'll be receiving copies of that report shortly where she convened members of the community, executive staff of department of public health to really start looking at what we can really do. she has worked for years in the community and i'm going to let her co-executive director of hunters point family, which is not funded by community behavior health services, speak a little about her, too. so, i hope you'll reappoint her. hi, my name is takai tyler and i'm co-executive director of the hunters point family. lena and i have worked together for about 15 years. lena has always been very much committed to working with the most vulnerable and high-risk young people in bayview hunters point. she founded the agency. our young people that we work

with are suffering from community violence, have a lot of mental health challenges around posttraumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorders, addictions to substance abuse. and lena has really worked over the years to always come up with innovative solutions and strategies for working with the young people and their families. so, i hope that you will very much hope that you will reappoint lena or allow her to continue in the mental health board. >> okay. so, i think that would be enough. i realize usually at this stage of an item, you would be speaking for her and later i'm going to ask for public comments. other people can support her nomination, okay? okay. >> thanks. next person is ellis joseph.

hello, supervisors. my name is ellis joseph. i'm looking for reappointment to the mental health board. i have for the last appointment i've been on the smurf committee also. i'm currently holding the co-chair position of the board and on smurf. i'd like to continue what i've already started here. it is a challenge and one of those challenges are getting you supervisors -- getting involved with the board. also making the board more accessible. we want the public to know what the board is, to eliminate stigma that's associated with so-called mental health. at the same time we're looking for more openness with our website. these are things we already started, it's getting good now like lena said, we haven't had a quorum.

we want people that [speaker not understood] i am definitely dedicated. i have an mba in business. i'm a native san francisco -- native san franciscan and mba in taxation. i have been self-employed here for all my life, almost 35 years here. i'm on the board of the african-american [speaker not understood] society, excuse me, ms. london very much aware of. i'm involved in my community. [speaker not understood]. i was unaware of [speaker not understood] and getting out the vote in our community. even though we are part of a nonprofit, but we can have directors of nonprofit. we can always advocate people getting out to vote. these are things we have in connection with the community at the same time making people aware of the mental health and getting them to volunteer, come out, look at it totally

different. like i said, once again, i'm looking for your support and consideration, i should say, and reappointing me. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next person is joy king. >> ms. king made a last-minute decision to withdraw. >> thank you very much. next person is marlene flores. good afternoon. i'm marlene flores. i am here to show my interest to [speaker not understood] position as a family member. i wanted to let you know that i'm very interested in the

position since i have myself experienced mental health problems. and i have a son who is bipolar. so, i have unfortunately another member of my family that has another mental illness. and i've been through all the process of the issue with my family and i'm one of the -- who has been able to help them in a way that's now my son and my brother, they are living in a good environment.

they have family. my son is about to graduate from college. and my major interest in this is to contribute my experience and my knowledge as to families in the people besides the paperwork and information that i can get from the mental health board, and especially to work with the hispanic community. i speak spanish and be able to help them to not only to get the right care for the families who are mentally ill, also to help them to prevent, to get big problems, especially with

bipolar disorder, that they can be very well managed if we go to the right places. the right medication and everything that gets involved in this matter. so, my position will be to advise and to get involved with the community in san francisco with the whole community. i know most of the hispanic community are not very well informed, especially with mental illness issues. so, i would like to contribute to that as well. >> thank you. if you have any questions -- >> any questions? seeing none, thank you very much, ms. flores. >> thank you.

next person is melody daniel. good afternoon. my name is melody daniel and i'm standing before the board to ask to be appointed into either seat 14, 13, or 16. i have a son that actually just turned 22 this month and at the age of 18, after he graduated from high school, he started having episodes. and initially we did not know what was going on. he did well through grammar school, middle school, and high school ~. and at this point he had graduated from high school looking forward to going into college. and actually that following day we were headed out of town for

a family reunion and we needed to call 911. he was out of his mind unfortunately, and no one had kind of seen anything initially prior to this episode. so, he had an episode in 2010 in july and was hospitalized for about three days on the mental health ward. they got him stabilized and they released him and we thought, okay, great. when fall came, he enrolled in college and pursued his basketball career and by november he actually had another episode. and at that time he was hospitalized for about five days.