>> but it doesn't -- the expanding the base is not going to slow the process down or -- >> well, i'll defer to the acting director on that. >> definitely it will increase them, they will be in our lease. right now i don't know if it's hundred or thousand because they change from three story to two story to the basement and then define the basement, that means our staff need to take time how is the basement, you know, definition. i >> also for the manned industry program, we've already gone through the structural engineers' group to get the proposed fixes on the three story. so, i just -- i'm concerned that adding a two-story would change the pre-scripps-miramar ranch exclusion such that it will delay the process. ~ prescriptive

i just wonder about that. >> it shouldn't because most of the retrofit proposed ideas fix the ground floor. >> but based on the weight of the building, it's a three story. this is an engineering issue. >> we will check the crawl space, the basement maybe, plywood boarding and all those. but more concerned about how many people involvement than -- before i'm thinking about the increased number of staff now. maybe i need to get more and then find space to help that team. >> yeah, i would just say we'll have to control a little more with mr. otellini and see quite what they have in mind. ~ talk a little at some point we are going to receive a database notification from him that he's putting together right now, as i understand it. >> another quick question on the changes. does it also affect the units? is it still five units?

>> no, that has not changed. so, five or more units. on other matters, i just would bring your attention to the fact that the development impact fee deferral program sunsets as of july 1 of this year. as you know, dbi's role in that is we have a collection unit that pamela levin manages. and the planning commission is required to hold a hearing. and as i understand it, they will be holding a hearing sometime in april to look at how the deferral program has been working and whether or not it's going to be extended or not. so, we are monitoring that to see whether that is going to continue or if the board is going to change that in some way. one other new item that i just received yesterday was from supervisor tang. i probably remember last year

when supervisor carmen chiu wanted to observe small business week during the month of may and asked that we waived any permit fees for owning replacement facade improvements. ~ chu we did that. a lot of statistics outreach by the supervisor's office, it still changed. we only had 8 or 10 of these types of permits even with the waving of those fees. supervisor tang has asked us to have this resubmitted. and if i understand it, she will resubmit that legislate at next tuesday's board. so, we may be asked as an incentive for small business owners to make these types of awning improvements. so, that definitely is underway. other than that, i think that

everything that i've placed in your packet is self-explanatory, unless you have any questions. >> thank you. item 9c, update on permit tracking system. >> tom, the acting director. we received the update, revised major project. and then roughly the number -- >> sorry, tom, we have to do [speaker not understood] first. permit tracking system and then we'll do the major projects. >> oh, okay. it will be the next one. thanks. >> my name again [speaker not understood] i am project director for the department of building inspection. on the permit system, we are actually ramping up on the [speaker not understood] such as the data conversion, console

design, fee calculation, [speaker not understood], and [speaker not understood]. dbi staff actually participated actively to [speaker not understood] scenarios and we are getting ready to execute them which is scheduled for -- in april, so, we're all getting ready for that. on the web builder, on the access site of things. we have a stakeholder meeting that is scheduled today at 4:00 p.m. the presentation will be a review to the web portal and to review the data that is going to be available online and online applications and such. the limited quantity of [speaker not understood] devices [speaker not understood] and we are actually beginning to enable those devices for field tests. using the current instruction scheduling system, and we are hoping to get back to you during the april meeting to give you the results of that test. i'm available for questions.

>> commissioner lee. >> thank you for the update. i appreciate you coming every month to give us an update. could you also in the next meeting give us some supporting documents perhaps? for example, attendance sheets to these meetings that you talk about. you mention a presentation at this meeting today i think, right? >> um-hm. >> would you let us see that? >> definitely. >> okay, thank you. >> any other questions, commissioners? p when is the roll out or testing? when is the sample going to be? is it coming up, like the demonstration? >> the demonstration for the public is for today, at 4:00 p.m. >> oh, today. >> there will be additional presentations. next month we have a advisory group meeting, the second one.

>> right. >> so, every quarter we have the public meetings and we're going to involve the stakeholders. we are going to be pulling permits, electrical and plumbing permits. we are going to reach out to them so they can participate actively testing the system. [speaker not understood]. >> right, yes. i attended the one at planning. very good, thank you. any other questions? thank you. >> item 9d, update on major projects. >> [speaker not understood]. we received the updated revised major project lease. the bottom line keeps on rising, roughly 3.8 million, and 5,000 unit on the [speaker not understood]. number of cranes, you know, [speaker not understood] going up in the city.

we are expecting [speaker not understood] in the next few months. do you have any questions on those projects? we try to release all the status of each one. >> there's no commissioner questions. is there any public comment on item 9a through d of the director's report? seeing none, item 10, commissioners questions and matters. 10 a, inquiries to staff. at this time, commissioners may make inquiries to staff regarding various documents, policies, practices, and procedures, which are of interest to the commission. >> go ahead, commissioner walker. >> yes. i know that we have our regular update about the new permitting system. i also think that there were

some lingering issues that were -- we were trying to resolve with the key matic. it would be good to check the work flow at the front end of our process. maybe next week we can talk about what is happening with the fifth floor and the flow of work through our department. ~ the next meeting. >> i know also with some of these larger projects, sometimes we have to have staff assigned to them almost as a major section of the work, if not almost full just to keep the permits and the things going. ~ full time i wonder how this is in relationship balance with the over the counter work which is happening on the fifth floor. i understand sometimes i have to do a little bit of both. they have to work on a major project, at the same time they have to do over the counter. maybe they might have a two-day, three-day split.

i want to make sure that, you know, these projects are also, you know, has there been any problems? is the work flow issues going? because they're going back and forth between the major project and over the counter work, things like that. so, maybe it could be included in that discussion about the over the counter and the fifth floor. >> also, i guess we should get an update about the process for our commission process of the director search. >> yes. >> item 10 b, future meetings and agendases. at this time the commission may discuss and take action to set the date of a special meeting and/or determine those items that could be placed on the agenda of the next meeting and

other future meetings of the building inspection commission. the next regularly scheduled meeting is april 17. >> i had an issue about special meeting and maybe we could just raise it here with the commissioners present. obviously we should raise it with the other commissioners. i had mentioned to president mccarthy before he left that -- about the possibility of us holding our special abatement appeals meeting. and this might help maybe to give staff more notice to prepare for any abatement appeals, or just to move some things out of the nov pile. and also sometimes we sandwich our abatement appeals meeting right before the bic. that puts pressure on us to only hear maybe a few abatements appeals at a time because we have to have the regular bic right after. so, i'm suggesting that. it's not -- doesn't have to be

ongoing, but if we could put aside maybe one special meeting where it's just the abatement appeals board meeting. it doesn't have to be scheduled before a bic, it would give us plenty of time to notice it. it would give staff time to prepare, and we could let all the appellants know and the interested parties when that meeting is so they could show up. so, that's something to think about for us, another meeting. >> thank you. is there any public comment on items 10 a or b? good morning again. robert davis. i'm asking now to have open director's hearings put onto the agenda at the next meeting or at a future meeting. open director's hearings, as you know, since the year 2000, over 1500 open director's hearings. and in addition to that, there are over 750 that have had a hearing.

the results are in favor of the board or of the city. they've never been pushed on actually to whatever else they're supposed to go to the litigation committee or to the full commission or anywhere. so, those are all since the year 2000. again, a lot of time has passed. there must be some reasons we need to look at the process of both open notices of violation and open director's hearings. thank you. >> is there any further public comment? >> commissioner walker. >> just in response to that, maybe it's an agenda item that we could put on when we're talking about the abatement appeals process that we also talk about how to keep track of that. they're related. ~ the related director's

hearings. >> do you want to put that -- >> same agenda. >> appeals board -- >> maybe we agendize it as a process or our hearing of notice of violation process including director's hearings and abatement appeals meetings. >> okay. item 11, review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of december 19, 2012. >> move the approval of the minutes december 19, 2012. >> is there a second? >> second. >> all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, the minutes are passed unanimously. item number 12, review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of january 16, 2013. >> move to approve.

>> second. >> is there any public comment on the minutes? are all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? the minutes are passed. item number 13, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn? >> move to adjourn. >> second? >> second. >> is there any public comment? okay. are all commissioners in favor of the adjournment? >> aye. >> you are now adjourned. it is 11:37 a.m. thank you. [adjourned]