important service. more cabs is also crucial to restoring some semblance of the law and order to the transportation services on the streets in san francisco. and i don't believe that you're being asked yet to decide exactly how their to go distributed but i want to commits on the s program it's a success program. i do note there's a suggestion to reduce the hours but i hope i won't break this successful program. and a (calling names) >> hi i guess i'm stuck in a

time warp. some people missed the fact i said a lot of critical things about your people and i'd like to thank attorney morley and others for the battle against the illegal ride sharing services that they took to the c puc. i think the doctor did an excellent study, however, the part about the ride sharing services is very much lacking. someone said there's about 2 thousand of them on the street that's correct. if the cpr allows them to become legal the market for the taxis may totally tank.

if you're going to put out 1 hundred and 20 cabs you'll cover it if the thing does tank. thank you very much >> (calling names). >> good afternoon. i'm from desoto cab. we absolutely believe that san francisco needs more taxis. we're glad to see this report. one thing i'm cautious of its a report it's not the entire story. i also want to point out that there are at least two apps in this city that are available to pretty much every cab company and the 3 major cab companies

have successful apps so one thing to think about is the cab supply has an an issue but think about the cab prarpgsz because there's apps out and if you look at the data you'll be surprised. enforcement is important it's very port it's been neglected it's to be continued to be important. the operating a full serve of the cab company they need financial certain and some of that involves enforcement. the report suggests that the city needs on easy to manage and efficient industry and to

empower i need to make sure the madalinas are distributed according. and we need the city to innovate and they want good taxi service and innovation. >> (calling names). >> hey good afternoon. driving of veterans cab. i'd like to thank doctor for the report it's a great report. very comprehensive. but as mark said i don't know if obsolete is the word yeah. we've got this rule undertaking the c puc and it's going to be a

big one. quite the social scientists he covered a lot. it's obsolete because we have a number of cabs and that's going to give you our hard numbers. you're going to have a universal app in all the cabs and it's all the information is going to be there. there's going to be hard numbers to go by. i've been driving for 10 years and the numbers are saying we need more cabs. so that's one thing and lastly, i want to throw a scenario out there i'm on the madalinas

waiting list i've got a $250,000 house in west oakland. so go do what you want me on the dying list for a $50,000 down payment do you think i'm going to buy a madalinas or a luxury item for myself >> yeah. i feel for him arrest i have cold feet about buying a house because i don't know what's going to happen. somebody brought you up that the ride shares are elitists and don't serve the community.

when i create our apps i hope you'll allow people to pay cash not just credit cards. if the a l j rules in favor of the ride share i hope you're ready to step in and make your own regulars. the people of the city wants taxis. the tourists take taxis. so if i don't get rid of those no apps or legally ride shires there's not going to be any more taxis in this city. we're not going to make it. they say 15 hundred ride shares now. i hope you're prepared to step in. after watching all the great

presentations from our side i can't imagine that the a l j would come back with the decision to support the ride shares i hope you guys are ready >> (calling names). >> thank you. carl speaking for myself i'm not an orientation. i want to thank the doctor the city does need more cabs we're seeing 15 hundred illegal operators and the drivers are not making intuitive money. i want to thank two others for their support. a lot of us are surprised we're

looking at illegal cars that are operating as taxi. and if 2 hundred thousand madalinas can be issued in the next two years i hope this group is ready to do battle with the law judge and the vehicles are going to be legal listed i want to say we disagree with the issues. there are 3 hundred and 70 madalinas coming out. i would promote 50 more single operators to be given permits some of the older drivers some of them should have gotten the

mcintelligence. of the remaining madalinas i hope many of the half priced one will go out with a priority. you're going to have a color scheme and out of control situation >> (calling names). >> afternoon. i represent a cab company. in regards to the solution of the ma intelligence by the affiliate cabs is outlined in the proposal. those voldz lae - they can't hae driving their own car and to

make sure the car is safe including parking, accident etc. they can't do the job for the whole color scheme. right now, i'm aware of a single operator permit that has numerous problems. they have non-standard equipment in the cars and this permit is currently under investigation with the mta. in short members of the board they have little experience in running cabs and let us do our jobs. if the lease companies should make sure all the drivers are provided with health care just like the muni companies are.

we have formatted a proposal and if your willing to reduce the fees wire willing to make up the rest. our legal counselor is going to try to schedule an appointment with you to go over the details >> (calling names). >> coming here i was crossing the walkway to come up and a young kids were holding up the walls and this car with a mustache was waving at them he came close to hitting me i think this is an important subject. this leads me to the subject that i write an article from

time to time in a small newspapers and i wrote about regulatory failure this year, the transportation industry is failing to regulate the taxi industry otherwise for san francisco the cabs will disappear. no, in this context mainly yellow i prepared this document i had a lot of help. we used a lot of data driven information we tested the statistical information. but we came to a different type of report. i think you should allow someone from the cab companies to present this report.

you'll have a report be it the cabs the colors or the drivers to do this. i think this is a lot of good information and the public should hear it and you should too. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon >> i'll be brief. i would like you to know that my book is to be printed. you might see new year's that book. i came in late i don't know the doctor they call him, dr. read a report now i'd like to if they had if the doctor has the information about the nature of this industry.

the first inclination of the driver in the cab is to have a job start to have a jump start they have to go to the airport. now if you increase the number of cabs by 1 hundred to two hundred you have to expand parking space of the cab. that will go there. otherwise they come back back and forth to the city and the driver will get mad at you are think about this and one thing more to the night time between the hours of 10 o'clock at night to 12 o'clock there is hardly a cab that goes home with a load i myself have been driven out and gone home incompetent and we're

not given reimbursement for the $4 we pay for parking. this is not good. and one thing more i think that this parking lot tenant should not be given authority to run us out. my son was driven out of the airport because one one of his bolts was missing. >> (calling names). and those are the last two who have turned in a speaker card >> thank you for the opportunity to speak. obviously it would be as

expected i support more cabs but it isn't all directed at this group here there's been regulatetry problems over the years. my complaint is if there hadn't think regulatory lag we wouldn't be in the situation we are now. we need more cookbooks and all the enforcement about some of the concerns about the sidecars and lifts. some of those i don't understand why the mta can't move forward while they're waiting for the puc to come forward. i'm not a lawyer i probably don't understand something that seems observe. the other thing i want to mention there was a pastor at

the last meeting there was this electronic assess there's several companies out there primarily two make any sense once taxi magic and a fly wheels and the two apps why the mta wants to spend money to improve the business i think the money should be spend back into the system to solve a problem that was created by the predecessors but we're responding to regulatory lag and i'm not happy with this new program. >> (calling names).

>> i just wanted to throw in any $0.02. enforcement, enforcement, enforcement. it seems like the sidecar and the lift is going to come to be. i don't know if the taxi industry is going to tank. but their picking up people their flagging cabs. they're just pulling up, rolling down their window and they're getting in their cabs and their quoting them a price. they're taking fairs away from me. they'll speed away if i flash any lights. i really want to put a pitch in for enforcement. i have erick's number i give him

the make of the cars and the license plates that you he's pursuing them i want to throw any $0.02 in on that. i want to thank the doctor for his - nobody can agreeable that's a comprehensive report. as far as keeping the madalinas price at the 2 hundred and 50 thousand at a 3rd of two years doesn't make sense. but i'd like to an answer as far as what you can sell it for at 2 hundred thousand and that's caps. i'm a little confused on that if you could address that. just enforcement >> thank you.

>> (calling names). >> good afternoon san francisco cab drivers association. i feel we could use a few more cancer but not before cracking down on all the illegal cabs. you make us feel ridiculous when we have those mustache cabs and go ahead and operate with no reprimand or nothing same with the illegal town cars and there's not enough room to pull up and their soliciting other folks. weather app their coming up with so people can see all the taxis on one screen.

you need to you hire more enforcement officers and they need to be out 24 hours. because when i'm out there there's nobody out there doing anything. i don't think the mta should be leaving ma intelligence or leaving them to companies. it's a major conflict of interest. so that's all i have to say for now thanks >> (calling name). >> good afternoon owner of a chairman i'm 25 years madalinas carr cab. six months i think we need

madalinas now we are left r with sidecars. if we do adding madalinas gradual it will be too late for us to compete in the past when we didn't have so much that technology we were still able to add 5 hundred cabs at once i urge you to add 5 to 6 hundred madalinas at once and give the madalinas to the first applicant on the list for $50,000 each. the reason i say that is the sidecar they say their will be

no drivers. it's going to be one cab, one shift please. whatever you decide set one price for all 5 to 6 hundred madalinas. those madalinas and the list will be for the drivers who deserve better deals and price. thank you. so far in general of the report is good but i wasn't part of that study i was left out by them and you, too directors. tell me otherwise to owners i just requested. anyone else? >> i see one more coming forward. >> i'd like to ask the members of this board would you take a

ride from one of those shadow cab drivers if the driver was an ax murderer. people could be robbed or killed and this board would be responsible and this board could be potentially sued. you don't want to run that legal risk. the second thing is i have such great difficulty keeping with the legal and economical issue of the whole taxi cab problem. i am the taxi cab department of the mta should be a separate department. i find it very difficult to find out what's going on. and you're taking people's money and you don't provided health care benefits i don't think that

this gentleman would take the job if it didn't have benefits so the same should apply. >> the public hearing is close. so members will discuss if the doctor could come forward. i thought this was a very comprehensive study and i also think the conversation this afternoon. was very ensight full. there's lots of issues in there but the one thing is the debt and at any point ail throughout this city. has anything taken any effective action to limit or change that

in some way >> in the city where there's no gate fees you'll still see at any point. but it's far more - to directly pipe it's like a doormat the best trips those kinds of things happen. and for those who can't get any other kind of driver their smashing themselves to get exploited further by the opportunity folks. this kind of rent control and wherever you have a price control that's effective there will be pressure to get around it and we're seeing that here.

and it doesn't have to be that way so we're going looking at those alternatives. >> one of the cab companies well at any point is all right. if that's the case it's fine but a whole lot of this doesn't strike me as voluntarily. i think we should deal with that. that takes an awful lost money out of the drivers poshths everyday. >> like madalinas holders who don't have to tip they're paying up to $7 a day. and think we got clear answers that people are paying what we don't want to pay and even those

who say it's voluntarily it's okay no one likes to feel exploited. >> i'm interested in taxis first, as a procedural matter i think we should move the amendment as suggested there's no option to that. >> we'll recap that. >> thank you directors it would be a motion to amend the recommendation to change the whereas clause. it is the second whereas clause i'm sorry the third whereas clause and it would read that all new taxi madalinas permits