the generation grasp and providing the kline town to bring the seniors and safety awareness and also providing an opportunity for youth and training especially the youth from low income family and immigrants. as an only child i really appreciate that the city has supported me to become nor o more brave for myself and at any point to be more confident of myself. as a group we have applied for different grants. and in chinatown we try to lead programs signatures programs that provide seniors to learn new technology. we start this youth program i

would have spent my time at home and not get involved in the community issues pardon i hope i who don't have much in leadership that you will come together and improve the community together to have more youth benefits >> thank you i was the president of the youbt of single occupancy. i'm a bilingual youth and i've been in this program. the reason i stay in the program for 4 years it provides resources for college information and job opportunities.

i love how people become successful to go to the college they want to go. i am in the program because i have learned the courage to be here. i worked from fema we're doing the bilingual independence workshop to first names in chinatown. and i'm glad i had the chance to show my public speaking skill. i hope you can restore the funding and help youths like me >> thank you very much any other members of the public wish

to commit? i want our city attorney supervisor alluded to it and i appreciate everybody citing we saw a lot of them at the counsel u town hall the other night but we do have legal restrictions rewarding city departments what cb os to fund. so we will understand how it works >> john deputy city attorney the charter provides that they can't interfere with the separation of powers they have the ability to make decisions

about how to award the fund but the board makes the policy decisions about what the priorities is of the department will be. so it is appropriate for the board to look at how different communities are being served and allocate funding and priorities to serve at the different community in the cities but the board can't cut the funding for particular entities. >> thank you, mr. city attorney. colleagues any more comments? seeing none? can we continue this to those the call of the chair?

>> i have a request after the school that some folks are coming forward - >> this rfp what direction for youth and leadership empowerment. the next one will be violence intervention. we just pled the distribution o.

thank you so much >> colleagues if there's no other complilts can i have a motion to assign the college here? mr. clerk call item number one.

>> appropriating 5 hundred and 39 million to over time and 39 thousand million consisting of permanent salaries and in benefits in the fire department's operating budget in order to support the firefighters over time requests. >> let's hear from the fire department. >> good afternoon. today as you know we're here to request a reallocation of our budget. as a result of the legislation that was passed in 2011 we have to come before you. within its own budget as now as

i said we here to formerly request the offer time fund. technically it's considered - it's simple a transfer thought of of funds from salary due the overtime. just a little bit of a background of your offer time. it's used to meet our mandatory staffing requirement and it is filled with regularly scheduled he individuals and salaries or offer minded. over time has been used for its fiscal and operation efficiency. the department is a consulted with the.

the way to reduce overtime would be to hire additional personnel into the field we did have 18 hundred members now we have lost 4 hundred positions and obviously we've had to rely on overtime. the department budgets for over all staffing level using a combination of regular saliva depending upon the staffing level it can be seasonal. we have as i said seen a high-level of overtime including

this year based on our staffing level. we have 4 additional personnel per day and that added to our staffing. we've seen lower staffing which requires more high use of mandatory over time. i've disrespected about particularly in the summer months. we're happy that mayor lee has championed this. we did - we're happy to report we graduated 28 new recruiter

and has provided some help we see the light at the end of the tunnel. we've got to make steps forward. but again we'll have staff that has never been so low. the pendulum as swung in the direction we have safety concerns and too much over time. i know that the supervisors understand the neat e need to bring the staffing up in the fire department. a few more things i'll point out. the one of the things we've duplicate is most recently is we

have modified a policy where the department of human services. we've worked with the labors. we had a d o w policy as you know there's a cap for the cap for firefighters is 6 hundred and 33 hours. if someone is willing to work on overtime shift the exception is granted for that. also which comes up not very often is if the person is not been able to be on a working shift and they have to go to mooned training but that's not used often that were and if we were to go to wildland fires

then we receive money from that >> so that being said we have higher earners. so people are put into the shift we're allowing those to work who want to at unsafe levels. one of the things we've done is put a cap into for 11 hundred hours to try to minimize it's not going to change the time but it will distribute that. >> so i know that many people who are doing over time hours not just people who were doing

the offer time but across the whole department it leads to exposure risks and chaufgs. and have will every ever been you mentioned mandatory staffing level and we have guarantees that we have to have a staffing levels. and now we're saying because the mandatory staffing levels to harm people possibly does that make sense to change the levels >> i think it's a fair question peer we're not overstaffed, in fact, if you look at the growth of the crane in the city you can see our california volume has

gone up. 70 percent medical calls and thirty percent fire calls. the reality it that we're - >> the response to calls does the mandatory staffing level you can actually reach the calls i think the studies that have been done in the past you can have the lower staffing and meet the calls. >> we're mandateed to be on a call in so many minutes. if you're question is whether we're going to reduce the fire people on the fire trucks it would be going against the code. i can tell you we have a 2 code

fir alarm and if we see the outcome of fire people going into scenes - >> i'm talking about the local prop. >> that calls for a minute amount of stations and coverage. >> and mandatory staff in the fire department's. so that calls for that. so we also had chiefs that would lead to a large reduction

>> so reduction in spend and reduction in risks. when i came into the department we had 3 divisions and 10 divisions. i'm happy to have the debate and a besides asking for a reappropriation within the department we could look at the staffing. and they're there to make sure we don't look at those things we need to look at those things >> i have no disagreement. i think we have the budget analysis report they have a

difference of $460,000 range. they don't believe our expenditures will net at that time, so we would agreeable vigorously that our figures truly reflect the numbers we used the numbers from last year and we took april, may and june weigh-in we're on the target. we have been correct when we feels we're not spend the enemy we are we're spending it. i can give you previous years data. for example, mr. roses offices when we had seen a reduction in

budget we needed that money and if i think the million or so dollars we were asking for more we would have come back to you. we're fully prepared to come back with you if you go with mr. roses recommendation. i'm a taxpayer in this city i'm telling you this is real numbers. i know we're headed in the right direction. i have the ultimate respect also for my staff. and we feel we're within very close to ask for a reallocation of overtime >> thank you chief for the presentation. i believe that mr. howard's has

to staff over time information but the over time increase has been about 8 percent increase. that since you brought it up the reference to over time at least two fire department staff has racked up oh, $50,000 over your salary and the presidio salaries are way up there. i think your efforts to create caps are important i want to plaid them but we have to control the offer time spending. i want your response to what the

report is maybe inaccurate. you referenced two members that's 5 i have 5 people over 15 hundred hours at this time. we work really close with the mayor's office it's more efficient to staff on overtime. your staffing lflz are so although, the mandatory overtime is critical. >> so maybe this might help so there's one station 39 lieutenant that racked up $221,000 to a total pie that's

50 above your salary. >> there's a citywide cap of 21 percent but your firefighters it's $633. >> our shift calls for some exemptions that were granted there are 4 to exceed the cap if one the member is held over for mandatory assignment and no object o other members is skilled. so if the shift clarification has a list of people and the second one is allowing people to work a lot of overtime. and the second exemption if the

member would be forced to work an involuntarily shift and any i member wouldn't be allowed to work that assignment. so for example, if someone exceeds the cap if they're available for it to avoid the person who has childcare issues >> if the members assigned to the shift. and then the final piece which is third party recoverable so if we get sent to a special area and we don't pay that out of our

fund that's exemption. this would eliminate. >> i was wonder if our the mayors budget director could talk about the staffing over the two years. >> so you're right to highlight the relationship between overtime and staffing levels so it's true it the departments overtime actuals have increased over the several years. at the same time the number of uniform f t e have declined.

we think the fire department is ready to talk about this. perhaps this chart would be helpful to show. so the chief can speak to this as well as i can if we could see the chart on the screen. so in blue is the total number of uniform f t e's over the last 10 years and the red line that you can see climbing is the total number of overtime hours in that given years. so as the number of uniform firefighters have declined the overtime hours have increased. there's a direct relationship

between the number of full-time staff. and the fact that he have a mandated number of fire department's stations that have to be oppose and there's a certain number of positions or posts that have to be filled everyday and when the fire department lose firefighters because of retirements if they're not able to bring on fire cadets quickly enough then we have a overtime. so we're going to ask for a class this year and we're going to be working with the fire

department during this budget cycle to see if there's anything else we can do about speeding up the number of firefighters. however, that has to be a different conversation. we've making sure they're getting the most sufficiency out of their hours >> thank you very much. this will lowering the overtime but i appreciate the explanation >> i appreciate the partnership working with the mayor's off and