department will spend it on overtime in my judgment unnecessarily. i'm sigg to the board to reassure yourself whether or not i'm right or they're right reduce or reserve this let me let them come back and justify and we will then again dependently look at it >> if you're saying we find ways to generate more overtime it will automatically happen. if that's true and then if we just tell them come back later if their bound and determined to spend unnecessary it's going to

be done is if what you're saying is true i don't know what you're solution is if it meets it. we have a fundamental discussion about the overtime needs. >> let me supervisor you make a valid point. most of the overtime that is extended by the fire department and the police department and the municipal transportation addition is valid and neat and justified. but there is some overtime supervisors in each of those departments that that money did

not need to be extended over time. if you did take our remedies it would shed a little bit more light on what in what capacity the fire department. and if they have, in fact, shown the need it must be spent on overtime my office with recommendation approval

>> mr. rose talks about his reputation i'm a huge fan. i'm not going to talk about my

reputation if you want us to come back to you i'm delighted to say i told you so. if you could do a reverse on the tape you would see he came up with this last year. if you're decision is we need to come back to you we'll do the best we can. it's not 0 superiority or a game i work for a high quality department and respect the members of the fire department. i take this seriously. i think if anything some of my members we'll overtime tried to

achieve the 18 hundred members but i can tell you we need a lot more than 18 hundred arrest we're going to get there with those classes. it's not staking my reputation. i've been the chief for 10 years i'm not going to stake my reputation on that but i will come back and tell you about the disputed amount on reserve. >> i want to thank you for the presentation. i do think that this has nothing to do with the newspaper article but i think it's important when we're looking the appropriation for any city department it's not

about questioning their reputation or their ability to micromanaging the department. this has been an issue for many, many years. with that i think we should accept the recommendation of our budget analyst and if this happens to come back be before us i think that based my review of the budget analyst report i was exist to have some you saves and adding a new class to the department to deal with this issue of mandatory overtime. we've got to be really, really conservative and to have something with no clear digestion at this point based on

a delayed budget analysis is something we shouldn't do. at this point, i want to move forward with the budget analyst remedies and if there's a need in the future there's a process. this is our responsibility to taxpayers that we're watching every single dime and i think we need to move forward in this. >> we're going to have to open up to public comment in a second. and we need to fulfill fund our safety departments as he it should be a priority of our city to do that. chief mentioned a fire in my

district it's easy to poke when you have articles but the underlying fact is we depend up

upon. public comment is closed. >> i'm okay with the recommendation. i'm okay to go to the recommendation. if we have people on the committee. did you make a recommendation to a motion. well, i made a recommendation we support the >> i'm not going to support that motion and i agree with the

sentiment behind it but all i know preapprove or not approve that. perhaps i can ask someone to explain this. >> actually, we have no objection it's the same thing except that and if the turns out

we're correct and the money is still there it will do just what you want it to be to go back into the fund so the bottom line it would expedite a process and achieve the same objective. >> we need to close3 4 f1... ..

>> making a production based on actual data about what the overtime needs are going to be. it's not a number the department pulled out of thin air. i understand mr. rhodes disagrees and i totally understand that but the fact is we are close to the end of the fiscal year and i think the department knows what its needs are and i won't be supporting the motion to reduce the

request. >> supervisor beady, any more comments? or chief do you have anything to add? >> i do, just one final thing. i get and i appreciate the conversation. i also appreciate mr. rhodes which i think is sort of a compromise, if you will. i'm all about efficiency, i know all of you are. it sounds as if, and you all know this better than i do, but it sounds as if what you are proposing, supervisor, adds to the process in terms of not being very efficient. you are still going to achieve the same thing. we're not going to get the same thing. a few less paperwork, administrative hoops to jump through. our staffing being what it is, with your staffing being what it is, i think it's more efficient if it's going to achieve the same thing. the funds are going to

be held and i want you to hold us accountable for every dollar. maybe to what mr. rhodes is agreeing to and we're agreeing on this, it might be a happy medium and i'm just asking because of staff time and you well know the workload that mr. corso has, he shoulders the burden of going through what we need to go through to get back on square 1 again as opposed to maybe you are familiar with the concept held in reserve in this committee and if it is one or two less steps, better it is for everyone. >> so -- go ahead. >> chief. >> i'd like to make this cut and i'd like the fire department to make it work. we can do it, you can do it. you can do it. make this cut, you can make it work. then we can go on and you don't have to waste any more overtime being here while we are discussing this because i think we're at the point and we can go around in circles but we've already

had this conversation 5 times over. and i think it's really, we have 3 votes to do it and then i think the fire department, you have everything in your power and the mind power and the bodies to make it work within the means we provide today. i would like to see that happen. >> okay, colleagues, if there's no more discussion, perhaps we should have a roll call vote. mr. clerk. >> on the motion to accept the budget analyst's recommendation? >> correct. motion on the amendments. >> on the amendments. >> yes. >> supervisor mar. >> aye. >> supervisor avalos. >> aye. >> supervisor breed. >> aye. >> supervisor weaner. >> no. >> the motion passes. >> then a vote on the

ordinance as amended. >> on the vote on the ordinance as amended. >> and we can move it forward to the board with a recommendation. can we do that without opposition, colleagues, as amended? okay, so moved. >> thank you. >> mr. clerk, do we have any other items. >> that completes the agenda. >> okay, we are adjourned. (meeting adjourned).

(music) >> herb theatre,open rehearsal. listen to the rehearsal. i think it is fun for them, they see our work process, our discussions, the decisions we make. it is good for us. we kind of behavior little bit when we have people in the audience. msk (music) >> we are rehearsing for our most expensive tour; plus two concerts here. we are proud that the growth of the orchestra, and how it is expanded and it is being accepted.

my ambition when i came on as music director here -- it was evident we needed absolutely excellent work. also evident to me that i thought everyone should know that. this was my purpose. and after we opened, which was a spectacular opening concert about five weeks after that the economy completely crashed. my plan -- and i'm absolutely dogmatic about my plans --were delayed slightly. i would say that in this very difficult timefor the arts and everyone, especially the arts, it's phenomenal how new century has grown where many unfortunate

organizations have stopped. during this period we got ourselves on national radio presence; we started touring, releasing cds, a dvd. we continue to tour. reputation grows and grows and grows and it has never stopped going forward. msk(music) >> the bay area knows the orchestra. you maybe take things for granted a little bit. that is simply not the case will go on the road. the audiences go crazy. they don'tee vitality like this on stage. we are capable of conveying joy when we play. msk(music) >> any performance that we do, that a program, that will be something on the program that you haven't heard

before. string orchestra repertoire is pretty small. i used to be boxed into small repertoire. i kept constantly looking for new repertoire and commissioning new arrangements. if you look at the first of the program you have very early, young vibrant mendelson; fabulous opener and then you have this fabulous concerto written for us in the orchestra. is our gift. msk(music) >> and then you have strauss, extraordinary piece. the most challenging of all. string orchestra work. 23 solo instrument, no violin section,

now viola section; everybody is responsible for their part in this piece. the challenge is something that i felt not only that we could do , absolutely could do, but i wanted to show off. i can't tell you how aware i am of the audience. not only what i hear but their vibes, so strong. i have been doing this for a long time. i kind of make them feel what i want them to feel. there is nobody in that audience or anywhere that is not going to know that particular song by the fourth note.

and that is our encore on tour. by the way. i am proud to play it, we are from san francisco. we are going to play that piece no matter where we are. >> hi, i'm lawrence corn field. welcome to building san francisco. we have a special series, stay safe. we're looking at earthquake issues. and today we're going to be talking with a residential building owner about what residential building owners and tenants can and should do before earthquakes and after earthquakes. ♪ ♪

>> we're here at this wonderful spur exhibit on mission street in san francisco and i have with me today my good friend george. thanks for joining me, george. and george has for a long time owned residential property here in san francisco. and we want to talk about apartment buildings and what the owner's responsibilities might be and what they expect their tenants to do. and let's start by talking a little bit about what owners can do before an earthquake and then maybe after an earthquake. >> well, the first thing, lawrence, would be to get together with your tenants and see if they have earthquake insurance or any renters insurance in place because that's going to be key to protecting them in the event of a quake. >> and renters insurance, there are two kinds of insurance. renters insurance coffers damage to goods and content and

so forth. earthquake insurance is a separate policy you get after you get renters insurance through the california earthquake authority, very inexpensive. and it helps owners and it helps tenants because it gives relocation costs and it pays their rent. this is a huge impact on building owners. >> it's huge, it really is. you know, a lot of owners don't realize that, you know, when there is an earthquake, their money flow is going to stop. how are they going to pay their mortgages, how are they going to pay their other bills, how are they going to live? >> what else can property owners do in residential rental housing before an earthquake? >> well, the first thing you want to do is get your property assessed. find out what the geology is at your site. get an expert in to look at structural and nonstructural losses. the structural losses, a lot of times, aren't going to be that bad if you prepare. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. get in there and get your property assessed and figure it out.

>> so, what is a nonstructural issue that might cause losses? >> well, you know, pipes, for instance. pipes will whip around during an earthquake. and if they're anchored in more numerous locations, that whipping won't cause a breakage that will cause a flood. >> i've heard water damage is a major, major problem after earthquakes actually. >> it is. that's one of the big things. a lot of things falling over, ceilings collapsing. but all of this can be prevented by an expert coming in and assessing where those problem areas and often the fixes are really, really cheap. >> who do you call when you want to have that kind of assessment or evaluation done? >> the structural engineering community is great. we have the structural engineers association of northern california right here in san francisco. they're a wealth of information and resources. >> what kinds of things might you encourage tenants to do besides simply get tenants

renters insurance and earthquake insurance, what else do you think tenants should do? >> i think it's really important to know if they happen to be in the building where is the safest place for them to go when the shaking starts. if they're out of the building, whats' their continuity plan for connecting with family? they should give their emergency contact information to their resident manager so that the resident manager knows how to get in touch. and have emergency supplies on hand. the tenants should be responsible to have their extra water and flashlights and bandages and know how to use a toilet when there's no sewage and water flows down. and the owners of the building should be proactive in that regard as well. >> so, george, thank you so much for joining us. that was really great. and thanks to spur for hosting us here in this wonderful exhibit. exhibit. and thank you for joining us

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