to a review and you've got 2 to three weeks to figure out this. but this site being so close to so many hubs is important. what the capacity needs from the station and caltrans we're not just working on this certain but with the giants as well. those 3 projects are 3 of many they're all looking at the same strategic responses to get out ahead of the maintenance facilities so keep those vehicles running and then working back into the development. that's part of the conversation the developers are working on.

so i can tell you this that working with john haley for instance, those folks can tell me what the next determination is going to be and what we need to purchase that's factoring into the assessment so we know that by 2017 what we need to do tomorrow >> where's the money going to come from. that's the core. i don't want to hijack this by it's a key part of the picture and what i'm trying to do is be more than a good switchboard operator. what those costs are that's a convenient we typically never get to have >> president chiu. i want to make a comment and a

supervisor wiener alluded to this we have to figure out how to vest the money. hopefully in the next 6 months a number of us will be asking the public and our colleagues to consider bond measures and other measures on the 2016 bond measures. we have to figure this out for the whole city for the wooerz fans and so forth >> i had a couple of questions around the parking situation can you you gives an idea of how many car trips over the east by the way, what do i expect that to look like and on california train and when they come on line

and the terminal do you know any numbers at this point? >> i don't have to figure but i think that the transit mode is somewhere other than 25 percent. >> can i break that down? the number of people coming to the arena on transit. if it's about a quarter to less than a third of the people that are attending the arena san francisco also presents like 60 percent of the trips arriving on transit that's 40 thousand seats at the stadium. you can make a trip from all 9

counties. that's a pretty different situation oakland doesn't have that recreational hub of air. what happened after they moved from candlestick park >> well, they quad drooled. but what we saw was a small amount of ridership bus it was sitting empty so people went out from trains to empty parking lot but gnawing now their holding their own. >> can you give us a sense has b there been a discussion about bike programs how that might

compare to at&t park and a. >> so what i know is the giants the valet system is over prescribed. >> one of the challenges we have is the bike fair is opening up across the street. one is people bringing i their own bikes and truce it to the valet service. and the bike of the last mile we're not tested here by looking at washington, d.c. and montana >> actually that site is slateed for a bike station.

i think we saw the bike valet parkably facility >> anything you want to add and to put a finer point on that. we have proposed in our later release design 3 hundred bicycle valet spots on site as you mentioned supervisor i think the at&t bike valet is over prescribed and we've been working with the city staff to make sure we have a robust bike valet operation and about 40 percent of the capacity of at&t parks so hopefully, we'll address some of the demand issues on our project. one question you asked about the car utilization at oracle we've

done some studies and pretty much every car that comes to oracle and i think the tape night that we savored was a lacquers game we counted 5 thousand cars and n that was the very, very worse example when i see that oracles only have 5 - we have here muni and all the other optioned. >> great thank you. >> supervisor kim. >> i thought we were going to stick to the design but since

we're here on transit. i know that part of the committee on the traffic planning commission what type of transportation we expect. so if there are 17 thousand people it a game what are the models to be like >> we're actually working with our staff the transportation modeling expert and much like we do with the transportation study. first of all, we're going to figure out trip formulation p whether their basketball games or whatever we're going to be cafe to use the studies. as we get those we meet weekly just to make sure we're you

using the right matrix. we're conservative in assuming this is the that he is by walk and driving and then where the people are coming from. if people come by the east side they're coming probably by ferry. and with the gotten gate bus this which is typically you done but that screen line effect of understanding what the trips are what transportation mode folks are using and this is the seat belt. where we are at right now we're lining up the agencies to say we're making those assumptions and all the muni stuff would

those be incredible projects to propose for virile review and if they say yes, this is the best way then we kick into the second phase and before the environmental you review we're already starting to do some sketch modeling this. people by transit and car and then the modes. >> so when today expect to have that? >> we starting scoping that two weeks ago we have to live with the outcome and that will happen in the next month. so in the a - so in a month folks can expect to see the

trafficking model >> we've got to switch the switch and we'll let the public see how useful this can be. >> so in a month? >> and now through the fall that will be when we're doing our modeling like also the eir. >> it would be good to get a firm date. i think the neighborhoods really want to start to see the data so if we could commit to a date it would be good. and currently you have plus peak traffic. we're looking at a basis line -

the way we're proposing a scope i'll be happy to talk about that. what happens if there were no projects what if growth were going to happen with the projects like central subways and we layer on toup top of that the recommended projects that we're hearing and we get to see whether their is value added or not. even before the eir kicks in. just imagine how much smarter that is. and see then seth a date for which these relatives come in. i think i'd be more than happy to do that.

>> i think a lot of folks will be looking at the baseline we're looking at and what will be looking at like how many additional light rail vehicles and parking spots and how much bicycle valet is incredible important. and looking at those upward conflicts at the warriors and the other park >> we want to start with the worst-case scenario and everything else go will be easier and a thank you very m h much. >> at this point we'll open it

up to public comment. >> i'll call the first 10 names on the pack. (calling names) >> yes jeffrey. we worked for 4 years with the san francisco giants and the at&t park. i want to thank scott wiener for bringing up the transportation points but it's about drivers

and others. supervisor chu don't take this as a personal attack but the chair of the b cdc. i find it challenging your supporting this project but yet you're against the project in my district apparently i called your office for this clarification on that. you know, the pictures look terrific but when we get down to the fine-grain what is this thing all about. if we start seeing things like financially feasible is this what we're going to get? this is eye candy.

their gorgeous but right now the press realize says this is a privately financed project but it's not privately functions. the press continues to reap the lies over and over again. but when we get to the fine-grain you guys have a duty to give us what we're seeing in those negotiations pictures. if we don't get this it's going to be a disastrous. >> i'm not here to complain about losing a viewing.

i think the design is gorgeous i'm here to thank you supervisor wiener for bringing up to many things. i've lived in this neighborhood before the giants were there. the giant are wonderful neighbors we have issues with those folks. we have crime and grime issues after every game. we took two dp w folks around after a game to show them what happens with the combriem, the track etc. and mohammed is great. if i want to go home i can't get

on a train and because i don't have they bus service i have to walk or take a cab. i'm so concerned about crime and grime. we're going currently overtaxed. but it is really possible to make transportation work there? we are overtaxed the transportation is a problem. i don't think we can take two arrest republicans within the same neighborhood. thank you very much. >> matt reagan from the bay area council that were there's a issue with a world-class arena. that will be home to a worrying activity but it will allow

critic activities and allow the restaurants and retailer describe to improve. the water front design is in a dpaptd pier. currently pier thirty and 32 are a little bit more than for nothing but the seagulls. i've worked for the giant fourteen or 15 years ago. i think the giants have done a wonderful job and it's a wonderful project to the city of san francisco and the warriors

project will be a good one too. but i think supervisor wiener is exactly right we need to draft those concerns but not let them kill beneficial projects. thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm pat. i'm a neighbor of the proposed warriors site. we live in the second more dense city. we have a mixed neighborhood i don't think it was meant to be a quiet residential neighborhood we've got restaurants residents and an arena. that was just mentioned the

current site blocks the bay and this will open up the area and the warriors is not just for basketball but for the public use as well. i live there the dodgers were just in town it was difficult and we have the challenges of traffic. with 42 thousand approximately coming to the giants games 18 thousands are less coming to the warriors or arena related games it can't handle that in the area. hopefully in transit areas we'll see leadership and public

support for it. so thank you >> thank you supervisors i'm dennis. it's - i've been teaching in the public high schools for the last 20 years. i've had a proposal for the warriors to conclude in the orange design a high school, college pathway classroom that i've provided in the last year different updates. today, i'm here to speak to the rejection generate of leaders. it's very clear in my dealing with city hall and projects our

high school and college students never get the chance to have the real world activities this area provides. this can help our students understand what the media is all about and a journalism and agricultur agriculture. when i speak to high school students all day long my prospective has been studying education reform all year long. when i talk to them about our leaders they have no idea what you're responsibility is. it's our responsibility that we tell students about the

responsible positions you have. i hope this continues to move forward in a positive way. thank you >> hi. i'm the president of the south beach district club. i'm here to speak about the residential issues that katie covered. first of all, there's a report from the planning commission that identifies district 6 as having the largest number of constituents? san francisco. we have as the last consensus almost a one hundred thousand constituents? district 6. >> that was redistrict. >> but since then there's towers going up and we still

hold the number of big the largest district? the city. that's a residential issue. it's? not just office buildings it's a lot of people and a lot of people are effected by those stadiums p and the city has can baldz the parking and now we have the event meeting. my visitors have to pay $7 an hour. there's no reason to assume consideration will be applied. i'm maple i brought up the issues. >> good afternoon supervisors.

i'm representing the hotel folks. both organizations fully support the warriors arena and the development of thirty, 31. obviously it will bring new jobs to san francisco but the long-term jobs related to the arena itself from hotel. but i want to remind you when people spend time at the hotel they spend twice as much money outside the hotel in taxis and so forth and it's well beyond the tour system itself. 16 million tourists visit us

every year. the folks are interested in using public transportations. this paroled project would revitalize the piers and an arena that will provide a world-class water front for a world-class city. we think this will benefit those who work and live in san francisco and we thank you for your support >> before i ask the next speaker to come up i'm going to call the next 10 names. (calling names)

>> good afternoon supervisors. i'm michael i'm with local 6 in san francisco. i want to let you know i started my career in the ship industry in piers 38 and 37 and spent a lot of time refurbishing those condominiums in south beach. at piers thirty and 32 needs to be rehabilitated. and a space that needs to be revitalized. we have a space that needs the piers 32 that will commencement that. is worst-case scenario is from traffic and this is when that we

have two sold-out games. we have asking for twice the capacitate with people coming in on the same amount herself we don't talk about what happens in oakland there's nobody walking to oracle arena right now. the ability to get to the san francisco district to walk over to the warriors game and catch that commuter ferry across the by the way, or take the transit out of town it's more than manageable. other than maybe 5 events a year that might conflict twice. the construction jobs and the permanent arena jobs for san francisco we must have an arena

that's using here in san francisco. thank you >> thank you. >> first i want to thank you for the opportunity to speak i'm representing the san francisco alliance. we're a coalition of neighbors and concerned san franciscans who have joined the by the way, to protect our waterfront. we don't intend to comment on the details of this design but we ask you to scrutinize the design and the fundamental issues it proposes. are the limited and largely unfunded maritime uses you enough to justify this maritime structure to be built on our piers.