recommended that be approved. we're here with you and it's scheduled for the full board to just that 4 and if it is approved we'll be in escrow >> colleagues any questions for the colleague? >> i was hoping to hear harvey's report first, because they go hand in hand. >> sure let's go to mr. rose. >> on page 15 of our report we

point out that pursuant to the purpose agreement the noah ministry is going to sell the property to the city. that's $490 million in squatter and that's a 2 percent less than the appraised on this property. on this page we talked about the accusation fund it would be used for the accusation if the proposed property is acquired for 2.24 million it would be - however, i would note there's a footnote that that open space

fund is scheduled to get an additional $2 million approximately in fourteen, fourteen so that would bum up that amount to $9 million. also on page 17 we have a table 3 which shows the stemmed development costs for the 3824 street property. those costs are up to $2.3 million and there's additional amenity. so they can range from the estimates provided to our office from about 2.6 million to

resolution to specify that the property would colonel from the not from the recreation.

i'm withdrawing recommendation 3 and on recommendation 4 we consider the policy decision for on the board. i have two policies as a matter for the board >> thank you, mr. rose and i also want to say that the real estate gentleman is here do you wish 80 to add anything? >> thank you supervisor wiener. i would add that the appraised value is done by a third part consultant review. they've been very cropper active

>> i appreciate the presentation i know i've talked to supervisor wiener acquiring this property and it's a perfect use of the fund. i, however, have a few concerns and i want to make sure i'm doing everything or everything to understand what the city's responsibility b will be especially with the limited resources and how this fits in and increases the popularity of the cities resources are with the park and staff. especially, when i mentioned before when we discussed last week and the budget and sub

finance committee, of course, great park the dog park and state park i'd like to have a state park in district 5. one of the conversations we had when with we had an update one of the concerns was park patrol. and how limited those patrols are. the response from the park and rec department we said absorb it in the larger i knguess they wod basically take on the parks we were adding to the popularity from district 6 and now we have another great opportunity and

again, no clear direction about how this will be maintained and how the park patrols to make sure it's a save area for people. and so part of my concerns include just really what does this mean long term in terms of the accusation fund will only pay for the land it my understanding. there's no clear direction other than the further be a resolve clauses that the board of supervisors urges that the funding be provided through the budget process to adequate low staff the park. so it says not only yes, it's great and that's an appropriate

use of this funds and, yes there's fund to support this park but how will it be maintained long-term. we have those great new parks and we neglect our old parks are the complaints i get are the lack of maintenance in our parks. i know that rec and park is doing what they can but yet we're adding on a new responsibility and they get priorities at the expense of our old parks. so i just want the rec and park to really provided us with many assurances that this is actually

a responsible step in the right direction for the city and that they some how their plans long-term to maintain this park. without the existence of leaving the other parks behind. >> supervisor recreation and parks department. those are excellent points we've struggled with as we evaluated wore one of the things we're seeing this year is a real policy issue. we have not just one accusation but 3 and 4 accusations.

the valley town square i want to make sure that as we look at the timing of the grant and the space is developed into something that looks like a park is a year away. so we basically have a parking lot and a farmer's market to maintain. it is fairly minimal and we should be able to work with the community maintain that space. as we develop and begin to get fund to develop that space and hope potentially have other parks for the board of supervisors to consider our only sources is the general fund and i'm hoping the board of supervisors as a policy decision about allocate more funds. as you said we have an extensive

popularity we don't want to make trade 0 office but we're in an important time in the city we're projecting extraordinary growth. the city has adopted a number of plans. so if we wait 15, 20 years to acquire those properties we will have lost the moment. right now is the light to buy before everyone comes and moves into the neighborhood. i think it's a responsible choose when you look at the 15 horizons to the city. we have to look at how to

maintain those spaces >> can you explain to me the contradiction in harris report the budget analysts report this is not a high needs area but in your presentation you expressed that you provided us with information about the location of other open space areas. so could you please explain? >> there's two dimensions we look at the availability. is there a deficiency. and then for example, >> it there a deficiency? >> yes, it's not the same as a

deficiency? >> okay. still not necessarily i guess a satisfactory answer because it doesn't solve of long-term dilemma. i know there is a grant opportunity as outlined in the resolution. i guess if the grant doesn't come through i'm assuming that funds will be raised to develop the property? >> yes. i think if this particular grant doesn't come through we'll be seeking the same kind of grants from the community prpdz. the community has obtained about $500,000 in mreblgz.

and whether it's a community opportunity fund a number of other sources we regularly direct our partners to >> there a way to oil that in the resolution so there's not a obliteration to pay for the resident property? >> i'll respond to that or i think supervisor brings up some important points. we had a great discussion when rec and park was here with their budget update. the fact as our park system as a whole the rec park doesn't raise funds they try their best but ultimately it's a decision for the board and the mayor how we fund our parks department.

over the last decade we have moved in the direction of less support where the hospital receives more sports. that speaks vacuumed about the lack of support in this building for operating our parks. we've had a significant number of influxes our personnel for the parks. i asked to add back several park patrol positions. i hope to be able to do that again, this year. i will say with respect to this particular property i don't see the lack of park patrol being an issue because this is a small

area integrated into the valley commercial coordinated so i think in terms of maintenance the one real benefit we have two extremely strong and engaged folk and the community benefit district there's a ton of work that have a huge incentive to make sure this is maintained properly. i think we will be able to maintain it but we need to focus that in the budget definitely. if the grant does not come through keep in mind the $5,700,000 in commitments were

received without any assurance the property would be carotid so once the property is acquired i believe the fund will be more robust. i know the people who have been working hard on p in he i think we'll be able to pit together the motorbike to pit it together. i believe we'll get the property through grants. i also want to stress two things. first that you only lose open space you never really create it so ones we strict while the responders hot. i've worked very hard to try 80 to support the open spaces. i'm thrilled about what's

happening in various parts of city. i think with the right focus we can shore up the parks system everywhere >> so the one assurance i'm trying to get to you realize that the possibly of the city absorbing the potentially long impact of the cost around maintenance is something that we're probably going to take responsibility for and so i'm looking for assurances that we could some how -- and i guess it's outlined in the resolution that the property will come from grants not necessarily the city

sources. >> i first do think that in the long run p - what i'm going to wait for public comment because those are the people who race the money and i think it will be helpful. >> i noticed there's another section that dp w it's not clear how it is going to be paid for or - >> through the chair there's a credit of 3 hundred and 3 something odd thousand dollars where we're still allocating and use it for the project.

>> so that can come out of the open accusation you fund. >> it's a 14.2 something and a credit back to compensate us. then their crediting back the amount for the remitigation like the seller of a home. >> and i just it opens another can of worms in the accusation funds. it's one thing to use it to acquire property but we may want to look at a bigger i guess adding additional optioned to be open space accusation fund in order to not only acquire

property but also long-term maintenance because there are areas from our city that doesn't have the same capacity to raise money in other words, to make a park possibility a reality through this fund and i want to make sure it works and is sustainable and we're creating open spaces throughout our city and we're not limiting ourself to just relying on residents to raise money or looking for grant opportunities or what have you we're more profound in our approach which is a large issue and we'll have to make changes to the charter in some instances. i'd like us to look at this.

i'm looking forward to public comment and figuring out how to move forward. i'm in support of moving this item forward and i want to make sure the resolution reflects what is best long-term >> supervisor i think it's a great topic that supervisor wiener and i we need to fund the parks. in my district we raised a lot of money important the arts a few years ago it was very much short sighted. so i think that's a great policy

we're going to have to stop and talk about without going forward. i'm definitely supporting this. i think when you have a community coming together it's a - when you get everybody on board i think we need to take advantage of that. when we have individual opportunities these are opportunities i'd love to see the more systematic projects across our city. but it's good policy we need to talk about before going forward >> i think at this point if there's no additional

complimentary or questions let's open it up? does the department agree with the items? >> supervisor we agree. >> public comment will be two minutes you'll hear a soft bell when you have 30 seconds left and a harder bell when it's up. >> (calling names) >> thank you my name is frank. based on the counter guidance in

the city chart the proposed time square is an opposed opposition number one it is eliminating a proficiency gap and it has widespread community support >> accusation depended on at least two important terms what is a high needs area? it's where a lot of folks within a half-mi half-mile radius. those are locations around a half-mile radical us and a

quarter mile radius for playgrounds. as we look at a mapful from the rose we noticed there's a number of red lines those areas are highest priority but they're not block by block boundary. and in fact, accident town square comes within 2 or that 3 blocks of an existing one but this area is the high needs area. if we look at the playground quarter mile we find a gap right in the middle this area is not served at all. 15 if we look at the you'll use

- >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please >> i'm here with my friend carolyn and my dad is todd david so, i mean the town square it's a great idea. there's not a lot of parks around the farmer market so, yeah >> hi i'm carolina i'm in the same class as noah and on saturday, i go to the farmer's market on saturday. the thought of of having is a town square there is a good one and i'm pleased we might have

one >> thank you. >> next speaker >> can you hear me. i'm the associate director of the market and i'm here to urge the approval of the accusation fund. one i think the project is a great project that mission community market has taken a lot of i think supervision and engaged community to catalysts and regenerate a public space. i think it can serve as a model for projects throughout the city. in a couple of ways it serves the community beyond the farmer's market is brings a quick and good access to healthy

foods for obesity a it's a real tangible way to engage the market. there's an active and celebrated event and humanely neighborhood and group of people behind it. and i think that part of this model have been proved in the mission district. there we have successful health programs and in the mission we're transforming a space into a celebrated and permanent shared streets more of a public space than exists now. there are we're engaging youth about 15 community programs and active art and programs.

so i think those kinds of activity is are the perfect programs for indicate listings >> thank you very much mr. david. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm todd david. and i guess i wanted to address a couple questions that have come up. supervisor we're 1 hundred percent committed to raising the money for the development of the town square. if the prop 84 grants don't come through we'll roll up our sleeves. we wouldn't be coming back to that board of supervisors for more funds. the 2 hundr