they some how their plans long-term to maintain this park. without the existence of leaving the other parks behind. >> supervisor recreation and parks department. those are excellent points we've struggled with as we evaluated wore one of the things we're seeing this year is a real policy issue. we have not just one accusation but 3 and 4 accusations. the valley town square i want to make sure that as we look at the

timing of the grant and the space is developed into something that looks like a park is a year away. so we basically have a parking lot and a farmer's market to maintain. it is fairly minimal and we should be able to work with the community maintain that space. as we develop and begin to get fund to develop that space and hope potentially have other parks for the board of supervisors to consider our only sources is the general fund and i'm hoping the board of supervisors as a policy decision about allocate more funds. as you said we have an extensive popularity we don't want to make

trade 0 office but we're in an important time in the city we're projecting extraordinary growth. the city has adopted a number of plans. so if we wait 15, 20 years to acquire those properties we will have lost the moment. right now is the light to buy before everyone comes and moves into the neighborhood. i think it's a responsible choose when you look at the 15 horizons to the city. we have to look at how to maintain those spaces >> can you explain to me the

contradiction in harris report the budget analysts report this is not a high needs area but in your presentation you expressed that you provided us with information about the location of other open space areas. so could you please explain? >> there's two dimensions we look at the availability. is there a deficiency. and then for example, >> it there a deficiency? >> yes, it's not the same as a deficiency? >> okay.

still not necessarily i guess a satisfactory answer because it doesn't solve of long-term dilemma. i know there is a grant opportunity as outlined in the resolution. i guess if the grant doesn't come through i'm assuming that funds will be raised to develop the property? >> yes. i think if this particular grant doesn't come through we'll be seeking the same kind of grants from the community prpdz. the community has obtained about $500,000 in mreblgz. and whether it's a community opportunity fund a number of

other sources we regularly direct our partners to >> there a way to oil that in the resolution so there's not a obliteration to pay for the resident property? >> i'll respond to that or i think supervisor brings up some important points. we had a great discussion when rec and park was here with their budget update. the fact as our park system as a whole the rec park doesn't raise funds they try their best but ultimately it's a decision for the board and the mayor how we fund our parks department. over the last decade we have

moved in the direction of less support where the hospital receives more sports. that speaks vacuumed about the lack of support in this building for operating our parks. we've had a significant number of influxes our personnel for the parks. i asked to add back several park patrol positions. i hope to be able to do that again, this year. i will say with respect to this particular property i don't see the lack of park patrol being an issue because this is a small area integrated into the valley

commercial coordinated so i think in terms of maintenance the one real benefit we have two extremely strong and engaged folk and the community benefit district there's a ton of work that have a huge incentive to make sure this is maintained properly. i think we will be able to maintain it but we need to focus that in the budget definitely. if the grant does not come through keep in mind the $5,700,000 in commitments were received without any assurance the property would be carotid so

once the property is acquired i believe the fund will be more robust. i know the people who have been working hard on p in he i think we'll be able to pit together the motorbike to pit it together. i believe we'll get the property through grants. i also want to stress two things. first that you only lose open space you never really create it so ones we strict while the responders hot. i've worked very hard to try 80 to support the open spaces. i'm thrilled about what's happening in various parts of

city. i think with the right focus we can shore up the parks system everywhere >> so the one assurance i'm trying to get to you realize that the possibly of the city absorbing the potentially long impact of the cost around maintenance is something that we're probably going to take responsibility for and so i'm looking for assurances that we could some how -- and i guess it's outlined in the resolution that the property will come from grants not necessarily the city sources. >> i first do think that in the

long run p - what i'm going to wait for public comment because those are the people who race the money and i think it will be helpful. >> i noticed there's another section that dp w it's not clear how it is going to be paid for or - >> through the chair there's a credit of 3 hundred and 3 something odd thousand dollars where we're still allocating and use it for the project. >> so that can come out of the open accusation you fund.

>> it's a 14.2 something and a credit back to compensate us. then their crediting back the amount for the remitigation like the seller of a home. >> and i just it opens another can of worms in the accusation funds. it's one thing to use it to acquire property but we may want to look at a bigger i guess adding additional optioned to be open space accusation fund in order to not only acquire property but also long-term

maintenance because there are areas from our city that doesn't have the same capacity to raise money in other words, to make a park possibility a reality through this fund and i want to make sure it works and is sustainable and we're creating open spaces throughout our city and we're not limiting ourself to just relying on residents to raise money or looking for grant opportunities or what have you we're more profound in our approach which is a large issue and we'll have to make changes to the charter in some instances. i'd like us to look at this. i'm looking forward to public

comment and figuring out how to move forward. i'm in support of moving this item forward and i want to make sure the resolution reflects what is best long-term >> supervisor i think it's a great topic that supervisor wiener and i we need to fund the parks. in my district we raised a lot of money important the arts a few years ago it was very much short sighted. so i think that's a great policy we're going to have to stop and

talk about without going forward. i'm definitely supporting this. i think when you have a community coming together it's a - when you get everybody on board i think we need to take advantage of that. when we have individual opportunities these are opportunities i'd love to see the more systematic projects across our city. but it's good policy we need to talk about before going forward >> i think at this point if there's no additional complimentary or questions let's

open it up? does the department agree with the items? >> supervisor we agree. >> public comment will be two minutes you'll hear a soft bell when you have 30 seconds left and a harder bell when it's up. >> (calling names) >> thank you my name is frank. based on the counter guidance in the city chart the proposed time

square is an opposed opposition number one it is eliminating a proficiency gap and it has widespread community support >> accusation depended on at least two important terms what is a high needs area? it's where a lot of folks within a half-mi half-mile radius. those are locations around a half-mile radical us and a quarter mile radius for

playgrounds. as we look at a mapful from the rose we noticed there's a number of red lines those areas are highest priority but they're not block by block boundary. and in fact, accident town square comes within 2 or that 3 blocks of an existing one but this area is the high needs area. if we look at the playground quarter mile we find a gap right in the middle this area is not served at all. 15 if we look at the you'll use -

>> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please >> i'm here with my friend carolyn and my dad is todd david so, i mean the town square it's a great idea. there's not a lot of parks around the farmer market so, yeah >> hi i'm carolina i'm in the same class as noah and on saturday, i go to the farmer's market on saturday. the thought of of having is a town square there is a good one and i'm pleased we might have one >> thank you. >> next speaker

>> can you hear me. i'm the associate director of the market and i'm here to urge the approval of the accusation fund. one i think the project is a great project that mission community market has taken a lot of i think supervision and engaged community to catalysts and regenerate a public space. i think it can serve as a model for projects throughout the city. in a couple of ways it serves the community beyond the farmer's market is brings a quick and good access to healthy

foods for obesity a it's a real tangible way to engage the market. there's an active and celebrated event and humanely neighborhood and group of people behind it. and i think that part of this model have been proved in the mission district. there we have successful health programs and in the mission we're transforming a space into a celebrated and permanent shared streets more of a public space than exists now. there are we're engaging youth about 15 community programs and active art and programs. so i think those kinds of

activity is are the perfect programs for indicate listings >> thank you very much mr. david. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm todd david. and i guess i wanted to address a couple questions that have come up. supervisor we're 1 hundred percent committed to raising the money for the development of the town square. if the prop 84 grants don't come through we'll roll up our sleeves. we wouldn't be coming back to that board of supervisors for more funds. the 2 hundred and thirty feet seems a lot of my activity is keeping families in san

francisco and building bridges for foejz folks in san francisco for i think this project really creates a permanent open space. there's going to be a place for pa families and young teenagers to go and hang out without having to buy anything on 24th street. and it's been phenomenal how folks have reached out across the city to gain grassroots support and our answers is wherever we've been a asked to help we say let us do we'll be willing to help those communities. i'm willing to answer any

additional questions that you might have one-on-one regarding this project. thank you >> thank you. next speaker, please >> i live on elizabeth street in noah valley. there are two important aspects. first of all, the town square will take up the asphalt surface and which will mean that the plant material will flourish in a way it couldn't in an inpermanent world. the other thing is the importance of the recreational importance of the farmer's market. as an for example, i will talk about jimmy his family runs the

vegetable market and the quality of the produce they bring is phenomenal. i have a colleague who's roej to new york city and she's preserving she bought white

>> we're in that space in the

picture where there is no space within a half a mile and this park will support any active children not only running around in the living room but have an open space they can play and i request our vote on this measure. >> thank you. next speaker, please >> hi. i'm a 38 resident and am raising my two children and grandchildren. i want to say that having lived there so long i think one of the best things that's happened is the farmer's market. i watched this space go to a gas

station to a paved parking lot that was marginly successful to a farmer's market. when i'm down there passing out material i talk to folks all over the world to people to all over the states and all over our neighborhood telling us what a wonderful space it is and it's a wonderful space for the people to getting together there. i envision it being 7 days a week not only for my grandchildren but a place to go sit out and talk not in front of the store front. so thank you very much for your support of this project

>> hello richard 4168, 24th street. many of the folks recognize me as a music guy. it's important to note that without the farmer's market this wouldn't be on anyone board it's a gas station it's black top. since the farmer's market it's a is a meeting place people don't have to buy anything. they can hang out and be what their neighborhoods. people thought it was going to be temporary when it opened. people's said we don't want to

lose our parking and now folks all over love this place. the feathers impact if the neighborhood is big and it reaches far beyond noah valley. farms owned by the families one of the families is in this room today rely on this market. also the music program. we have people from fresno and nashville, tennessee as well as the mission we have young musicians who started at our market. so i hope you'll see your way clear to buy this otherwise it's

great condos the last thing i want to see on main street. thank you >> good afternoon meredith. we urge tour strong support for a number of reasons. one we believe that all the parks and public plazas so serve our folks in the city. we believe that we should have this project because the neighborhood has come together around a non-controversial. we also want the park it's a source of ref review through the maintenance department. it's appropriate at this site we think the neighborhood