eight, section e, coordination management and control of jurisdictional pursuit and below that is two sections, pursuits by other law enforcement agencies in the city and pursuits traveling outside of sfpd and outside agency comes in here or we go outside and i am wondering -- i assume that this is a case that all -- the balancing test and all these different requirements in here basically applies the same to when another law enforcement agency comes here and we support them, or when we go to another jurisdiction in pursuit. >> if we go to another jurisdiction it is still our policy that our officers are held accountable for. therefore, for example if we go to oakland san francisco policy goes with them. they must follow our policy. doesn't matter where they go. if oakland pd comes to our city their policy follows them. if they ask us to take over the

pursuit our policy applies otherwise oakland police department or normally california highway patrol their policy will dictate what their officers will do. if we receive information their officers are in our city we will send one car to enter that pursuit so we know what is occurring in our city so we can make good judgments as well, and if it's unreasonable if the city our supervisors can certainly call that agency and ask why are you pursuing and we need to cancel. again the balance test. >> thank you. i was looking for that sentence that would just basically say that, but i feel like you don't necessarily need t i think it would help to make it extra clear but without tithink it's logical that the rest of the policy applies regardless and the policy follows the sf police officer. okay thank you. >> commissioner truman. >> one of the things they was

struck by is reading criteria of the things that an officer must weigh and pretty much in a matter of seconds some of these may come upon you. i am looking specifically at roman numeral 42a and the listing there. are we anticipating -- are we training scenarios or something like this for officers to help hone these skills? this is a lot of information to take in and to weigh and to make almost a split second decision on every once in a while. how are we planning i guess drilling down with officers so they make the best decision possible? >> the code requires that every peace officer in the state of california that can potentially get into a vehicle pursuit must

be trained every year on their policy. we comply with that law, so every year our officers are trained by given our policy by the supervisor and it's reviewed. every two years you are sent to the san francisco police academy for san francisco police officers for state recertification. at that point you are sent to our driving stimulator. again you're given that policy. the chief's foresight he sent me and the emergency operations crew which is evoc out to the stations and teaching at the district level these policies so we are doing our very best to constantly keep this in the minds of the officers as to what the policy is. we have a two day refresher course if you have been out of

patrol for more than six months and returning they are required to come to us. we go through the entire policy and physically getting behind the wheel in stimulated pursuits and we invite you to come out so you can see our program. >> very thorough exercise. thank you. >> commissioner loftus. >> yes. just last point on this. when you say they're trained every year are they trained at line up like i saw or is that an extra train something. >> it would be tratraining. they have to be given the general order and a supervisor would go over the policies. >> that counts as their every year training? supervisor going over the travel pages with them individually. >> yes. >> okay. i want to say because there is are two sides of a coin and this commission holds the officers to doing that and the general orders and our

expectation is officers follow this and given how complex it is and this is an example how difficult a job it is and how hard it would be at any given moment to be responsible for this and i echo what the colleagues say and the chief and we're providing every opportunity and training and every support and they're the ones making the real time decisions and this is a lot. it takes into what -- we haven't covered that but i want to support the chief's efforts in training folks and we have to do that if we hold them accountable. >> commissioner truman. >> any comments? >> the occ policy. >> thank you. i want to under score a few things because this say document we have all worked on for several years and the commission was asking what are

some of the fundamental changes and in ways that i think the department might not emphasize some of those changes because in part ultimately we all feel proud of it being a clearer document and including much more mandatory language and i wanted to highlight on page three the definition of a pursuit or when it's authorized it looks at -- there needs to be -- there is a subspigz of violent felony so it's narrowing the incidents that would give rise to a pursuit so the individual expected of a violent felony and the person apprehended is oppose a risk to the public and if you look at the 1997 policy versus this there is much more clarity to what nature would give rise to a pursuit and i want to under score some of the policies from the 1997 policy we wanted to make sure that the control is

placed in the hands of the supervisor who is not at the scene and making those decisions so in the old policy there was certain provisions where the language was should and we advocated strongly that the language be "shall" and it's clear for instance when a unit can join a pursuit and we know they're one of the most dangerous activities of the police department and certainly to the officers themselves and the public, but also when there are multiple units the chance of accidents rises phenomenally so to make sure it's the pursuit supervisor that is limiting the number of units and again this policy does provide those limitations so in that regard we were happy to have the discussions with the department and ultimately came to those kinds of agreements so we endorse the policy and glad it's before you now. >> ms. marion and to that point

violent felony is a legal term and defined in the penal code and i think this is the section but don't check. there is a distinction between the officers and new officers you would think assault with a deadly weapon and it's not a violent felony and i hope when we make those changes that is part of the training and set them up for success and oftentimes whether something is a grand theft from a person or a robbery and the decision the da might make and we know what that is and i think that can be quite confusing. >> thank you. chief maybe you can explain what percentage -- i know i talked to the officer assigned to us tonight from southern station and said he had a surpiewt recently and it was

called off. how often do the supervisors call off the chases? >>i think it's important to make the distinction. i appreciate the comments. the decision to in fact the pursuit and the real time decisions, split second decisions, those are made by the officers. it's a monitoring of the pursuit that is made by the supervisor and depending on the rank of the supervisor it's starts with a sergeant but oftentimes whoever comes on the air is the senior ranking officer responsible for the pursuit. i wouldn't know the percentage but i hear pursuits canceled all the time in progress so i think it's important to make that point also that this is a clarifying order. the sergeants -- supervisors have always been required to monitor pursuits and who goes in and who goes out and it is the officers -- it's kind of funny we're talking about --

this is actually a long general order. it's about 12 pages but there is a binder 2 inches thick of the general orders that these officers that do a great job everyday are responsible to and they come upon the incidents and respond for calls of service and they have to decide in real time and certainly since the advent of columbine and the officers waited now whenever there is on going or serious injury or loss of life the officers don't wait. they have to go in and figure it out and god bless that we have great supervisors that take charge of the scene and the officers are making split second decisions and i have to commend the sergeant because when it comes to trainers he sets the bar pretty high and maintains a standard few can but he does

and tocey yokimono was there and all 30 copies and like you dr. marshall i like to see them but it was dizzy looking and this is consistent and the officers do a great job with all the general orders. >> all right. thank you. any public comment? we're not voting on it tonight but at the community meet ing but we wanted to do that before that. >> i think the chief brought up. this is 12 pages. is this thing on or not? it's difficult for a police officer in pursuit to actually use this unless he memorized it seven days a week. two, i have driven police cruisers as a taxi driver and

they wouldn't accelerate to 150, 160 miles per hour but you can cars that police can't follow with a cruiser. even if it's a toyota camry and if it gets on the highway and there is no recourse and it's not i think you should have orders two, three pages deep and the officer can memorize it and do the job. i don't see him doing this. it's convoluted and check with the supervisor non step and cut off any given time based on the incident and i think that's a major problem and it comes back to even your -- why the chief

is here and mr. mansiewko -- >> you're confusing. >> i'm bringing up to this incident and you're talking about training on the job and this has to be reviewed every two years and the tax and officer has to use proper protocol and if he doesn't he leaves it on the desk and go about doing his job the way he sees best because you have too many rules for him to use immediately and that is a problem and i have seen police in pursuit of suspects in this city probably 30 to 40 times. no police cruiser in this city can out maneuver a lot of cars on the street today. they may do it on the highway but you can call the highway patrol but you don't have a speed limit here and the police automatically the guy is at 140. we're at 110.

we have to stop. that's not even in here so i leave this for you review. i thank you for your time on this issue. >> thank you. any further public comment? with reference to what he talked about i didn't say the police officers weren't doing that and i think they were doing it more and risking their lives and i think you got that confused and you should look at the new cars too. >> and i want to assure the public that 140 miles per hours are routinely canceled. >> any further public comment? seeing none public comment is closed. please call the next item. >> next item is whether to have closed session and vote whether to have closed session. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none public

comment is closed. next item. >> vote on whether to go to closed session and attorney-client privilege regarding to item 8(a), (b), and (c) section 67.10. >> do we have a have a quorum. commissioner chang, truman and kingsley and loftus. >> president mazzucco. >> we're back on the record. do i have a motion with reference to disclosure or not disclosure. >> move to not disclose. >> all in favor. >> aye. >> please call the last item. >> item 10 is adjourn mentd. >> do i have a motion? >> move to adjourn. >> move to adjourn?

>> aye. >> thank you everybody. >> hello. you're watching the show that explores san francisco's love affair with food. there are at least 18 farmers markets in san francisco alone, providing fresh and affordable to year-round. this is a great resource that does not break the bank.

to show just how easy it can be to do just that, we have come up with something called the farmers' market challenge. we find someone who loves to cook, give them $20, and challenge them to create a delicious meal from ingredients found right here in the farmer's market. who did we find for today's challenge? >> today with regard to made a pot greater thanchapino. >> you only have $20 to spend. >> i know peter it is going to be tough, but i think i can do it. it is a san francisco classic. we are celebrating bay area food. we have nice beautiful plum tomatoes here. we have some beautiful fresh fish here. it will come together

beautifully. >> many to cut out all this talk, and let's go shop. yeah. ♪ >> what makes your dish unique? >> i like it spicy and smoky. i will take fresh italian tomatoes and the fresh seafood, and will bring them to other with some nice spoked paprika and some nice smoked jalapeno peppers. i am going to stew them up and get a nice savory, smoky, fishy, tomatoy, spicy broth. >> bring it on. how are you feeling? >> i feel good. i spent the $20 and have a few pennies less. i am going to go home and cook. i will text message u.n. is

done. >> excellent and really looking forward to it. >> today we're going to make the san francisco classic dish invented by italian and portuguese fishermen. it'll be like a nice spaghetti sauce. then we will put in the fish soup. the last thing is the dungeon as crab, let it all blend together. it will be delicious. when i could, i will try to make healthy meals with fresh ingredients, whatever is in season and local. those juicy, fresh tomatoes will take about an hour to cook down into a nice sauce. this is a good time to make our fish stock. we will take a step that seems like trash and boil it up in water and make a delicious and they speed up my parents were great clerics, and we had wonderful food. family dinners are very important. any chance you can sit down together and have a meal together, it is great communal atmosphere. one of the things i like the most is the opportunity to be creative.

hello. anybody with sets their mind to it can cut. always nice to start chopping some vegetables and x and the delicious. all this double in view is this broth with great flavor. but your heart into it. make something that you, family, and friends will really enjoy. >> i am here with a manager at the heart of the city farmer's market in san francisco. thank you for joining us. tell us a little bit about the organization. >> we're 30 years old now. we started with 14 farmers, and it has grown out to over 80. >> what is the mission of the organization? >> this area has no grocery store spiller it is all mom-and- pop stores. we have this because it is needed. we knew it was needed. and the plaza needed somebody. it was empty. beautiful with city hall in the background. >> thank you for speaking with

us. are you on the web? >> yes, hocfarmersmarket.org. >> check them out. thank you. >> welcome. the dish is ready. >> it looks and smells amazing. >> thank you. it was not easy to meet the $20 budget. i checked everybody out and found some great produce. really lovely seafood. i think that you are going to love it. >> do not be shy. cyou know this can run you $35 to $45 for a bowl, so it is great you did this for $20. >> this will feed four to six people. >> not if you invite me over for dinner. i am ready to dig in. >> i hope you'll love it. >> mmm.

>> what do you think? >> i think i am going to need more. perhaps you can have all you want. >> i am produce the that you have crushed this farmer's market challenge by a landslide. the first, we're going to have to tally of your shopping list and see what you actually spend that the farmer's market. >> and go for it. >> incredible. you have shown us how to make super healthy, refresh chapino from the farmers market on the budget, that for the whole family. that is outstanding. >> thank you peter i am glad that you like it. i think anybody can do it. >> if you like the recipe for this dish, you can e-mail us at sfgtv@sfgov.org or reach out to us on facebook or twitter and we

>> chair nolan: here. >> director ramos: presente >> director rubke: here. >> please know the director lee will be absent but you have a quorum. please be advised that the ringing of cell phones and pagers and tectonic devices are prohibited. any person responsible for the ringing for the one going off may be asked to leave the room. cell phones and vibrate decisions the cause my perform interference. >> motion to approve approval of minutes, may 7 regular meeting

>> motion approved. >> be advised item 10.2 p q r s on the consent calendar have been removed from the agenda the request of staff. >> thank you. >> item 6, introduction of new and unfinished business. >> i believe director heinicke -- i'm looking forward to hearing from staff about market street ahead of the paving project several years ahead in the future. i have noticed for myself as a pedestrian as a transit rider and as a cyclist, the street is getting difficult. cross traffic is really causing problems now with traffic

blocking intersections so the buses can't even get up and down market street. i am looking forward to hearing what we can possibly do about that. >> chair nolan: i would like to report the past weekend i was part of a group visiting mexico city; it was not paid for by the city, about 17 people from the transportation authority, people from spur the planning commission went along. the purpose was to look at the bus and transportation system, an amazing system that carries 850,000 people today. last line they created took eight months from design to implementation which is amazing. it was amazing to see, moving extremely fast, cuts down travel time by 40

percent for much of the city. 850,000 people on four lines, building a fifth one. wondered if anything can be done to move this project along. i don't know second where we are with it, environmental review out there arrector reiskin? >> director reiskin: expect in july and august complete the environmental review, at which point it will be transferred from the transportation authority to the mta. >> chair nolan: there is also bicycle sharing, they're doing the bicycle thing first with little infrastructure; in the city of 18 million people is

daunting to write your bike around but at any rate it was very inspiring to see that one as well, very popular program, 70,000 people a year use it. we are close to ours as well. if we can get -- an interim report in order mr. reiskin on where we are? >> director reiskin: i think the final action will be going to the transportation authority commission, the board of supervisors wearing a different hat. sometime this summer, maybe in advance of that we can. >> chair nolan: in particular - not eight months - but whatever we can do. i was thinking about how city departments work so well together on pagoda theater situation. possibly suggest a model, any kind of time could save is worth it. any thoughts on that.

director heinicke? >> director heinicke: two meetings ago i did something -- i got a wonderful memo from mr. haley, to the whole board for you director reiskin explained that this is not my imagination, explaining what the issues were and explaining most importantly what he's doing to address them which is most appreciated. i think some of these issues persist; they persisted as early as this morning when my right longer than it should have and i'm hearing from a number of people about this. while i realize that cannot wave a wand, it is important that the people know, and the public is aware of it. i am requesting that our may 2

memo be turned into a brief presentation perhaps in the directors' report so that we can publicly acknowledge the issues particularly in embarcadero, acts issues; and talk about some of the things that mr. haley and his staff are doing to address these. and that would put on, if i may, fiercer questions which i noticed during the peak time commutes there are a lot of single car trains when there are certainly enough passengers for a two car train; a two car train occupies the same space and i wonder if that is just an issue, are we short trains? the question would be, what can we do to maximize two car trains during peak time? where do we stand on double boarding, two-train platform boarding and where do we stand on shuttle service? a lot of people, not my, but people in castro and church

are bypassed the country because of the peak and the same is true in the thing for folks from palo to --, and wondered whether civil service would alleviate that. the city says we are doing a little better, i will not rest on c or c+, the very least i want passengers to know how much work is to haley has done and what he is doing and in addition i would like to talk about some of these other issues. >> chair nolan: these are good i get to idea to me. with members consent. >> we have good answers to all of those questions. >> did you say 850,000? that's just the bli