and make good decisions whether this pursuit needs to occur or not, and again it's also the balance test. throughout this entire policy it's the balance, the need to apprehend versus the risk to the public. >> thank you. that answers my question for sure. the second question i had was on page eight, section e, coordination management and control of jurisdictional pursuit and below that is two sections, pursuits by other law enforcement agencies in the city and pursuits traveling outside of sfpd and outside agency comes in here or we go outside and i am wondering -- i assume that this is a case that all -- the balancing test and all these different requirements in here basically applies the same to when another law enforcement agency comes here and we support them, or when we go to another jurisdiction in pursuit. >> if we go to another jurisdiction it is still our policy that our officers are

held accountable for. therefore, for example if we go to oakland san francisco policy goes with them. they must follow our policy. doesn't matter where they go. if oakland pd comes to our city their policy follows them. if they ask us to take over the pursuit our policy applies otherwise oakland police department or normally california highway patrol their policy will dictate what their officers will do. if we receive information their officers are in our city we will send one car to enter that pursuit so we know what is occurring in our city so we can make good judgments as well, and if it's unreasonable if the city our supervisors can certainly call that agency and ask why are you pursuing and we need to cancel. again the balance test. >> thank you. i was looking for that sentence that would just basically say that, but i feel

like you don't necessarily need t i think it would help to make it extra clear but without tithink it's logical that the rest of the policy applies regardless and the policy follows the sf police officer. okay thank you. >> commissioner truman. >> one of the things they was struck by is reading criteria of the things that an officer must weigh and pretty much in a matter of seconds some of these may come upon you. i am looking specifically at roman numeral 42a and the listing there. are we anticipating -- are we training scenarios or something like this for officers to help hone these skills? this is a lot of information to take in and to weigh and to make almost

a split second decision on every once in a while. how are we planning i guess drilling down with officers so they make the best decision possible? >> the code requires that every peace officer in the state of california that can potentially get into a vehicle pursuit must be trained every year on their policy. we comply with that law, so every year our officers are trained by given our policy by the supervisor and it's reviewed. every two years you are sent to the san francisco police academy for san francisco police officers for state recertification. at that point you are sent to our driving stimulator. again you're given that policy. the chief's foresight he sent me and the emergency operations crew which

is evoc out to the stations and teaching at the district level these policies so we are doing our very best to constantly keep this in the minds of the officers as to what the policy is. we have a two day refresher course if you have been out of patrol for more than six months and returning they are required to come to us. we go through the entire policy and physically getting behind the wheel in stimulated pursuits and we invite you to come out so you can see our program. >> very thorough exercise. thank you. >> commissioner loftus. >> yes. just last point on this. when you say they're trained every year are they trained at line up like i saw or is that an extra train something. >> it would be tratraining. they have to be given the general order and a supervisor would go over the policies.

>> that counts as their every year training? supervisor going over the travel pages with them individually. >> yes. >> okay. i want to say because there is are two sides of a coin and this commission holds the officers to doing that and the general orders and our expectation is officers follow this and given how complex it is and this is an example how difficult a job it is and how hard it would be at any given moment to be responsible for this and i echo what the colleagues say and the chief and we're providing every opportunity and training and every support and they're the ones making the real time decisions and this is a lot. it takes into what -- we haven't covered that but i want to support the chief's efforts in training folks and we have to do that if we hold them

accountable. >> commissioner truman. >> any comments? >> the occ policy. >> thank you. i want to under score a few things because this say document we have all worked on for several years and the commission was asking what are some of the fundamental changes and in ways that i think the department might not emphasize some of those changes because in part ultimately we all feel proud of it being a clearer document and including much more mandatory language and i wanted to highlight on page three the definition of a pursuit or when it's authorized it looks at -- there needs to be -- there is a subspigz of violent felony so it's narrowing the incidents that would give rise to a

pursuit so the individual expected of a violent felony and the person apprehended is oppose a risk to the public and if you look at the 1997 policy versus this there is much more clarity to what nature would give rise to a pursuit and i want to under score some of the policies from the 1997 policy we wanted to make sure that the control is placed in the hands of the supervisor who is not at the scene and making those decisions so in the old policy there was certain provisions where the language was should and we advocated strongly that the language be "shall" and it's clear for instance when a unit can join a pursuit and we know they're one of the most dangerous activities of the police department and certainly to the officers themselves and the public, but also when there are multiple units the chance of accidents rises phenomenally so to make sure it's the pursuit

supervisor that is limiting the number of units and again this policy does provide those limitations so in that regard we were happy to have the discussions with the department and ultimately came to those kinds of agreements so we endorse the policy and glad it's before you now. >> ms. marion and to that point violent felony is a legal term and defined in the penal code and i think this is the section but don't check. there is a distinction between the officers and new officers you would think assault with a deadly weapon and it's not a violent felony and i hope when we make those changes that is part of the training and set them up for success and oftentimes whether something is a grand theft from a person or a robbery and the decision the da

might make and we know what that is and i think that can be quite confusing. >> thank you. chief maybe you can explain what percentage -- i know i talked to the officer assigned to us tonight from southern station and said he had a surpiewt recently and it was called off. how often do the supervisors call off the chases? >>i think it's important to make the distinction. i appreciate the comments. the decision to in fact the pursuit and the real time decisions, split second decisions, those are made by the officers. it's a monitoring of the pursuit that is made by the supervisor and depending on the rank of the supervisor it's starts with a sergeant but oftentimes whoever comes on the air is the senior ranking officer responsible for the pursuit. i wouldn't know the percentage but i hear pursuits canceled all the time in

progress so i think it's important to make that point also that this is a clarifying order. the sergeants -- supervisors have always been required to monitor pursuits and who goes in and who goes out and it is the officers -- it's kind of funny we're talking about -- this is actually a long general order. it's about 12 pages but there is a binder 2 inches thick of the general orders that these officers that do a great job everyday are responsible to and they come upon the incidents and respond for calls of service and they have to decide in real time and certainly since the advent of columbine and the officers waited now whenever there is on going or serious injury or loss of life the officers don't wait. they have to go in and figure it out and god bless that we have great supervisors that take charge of the scene and the

officers are making split second decisions and i have to commend the sergeant because when it comes to trainers he sets the bar pretty high and maintains a standard few can but he does and tocey yokimono was there and all 30 copies and like you dr. marshall i like to see them but it was dizzy looking and this is consistent and the officers do a great job with all the general orders. >> all right. thank you. any public comment? we're not voting on it tonight but at the community meet ing but we wanted to do that before that. >> i think the chief brought up. this is 12 pages. is this

thing on or not? it's difficult for a police officer in pursuit to actually use this unless he memorized it seven days a week. two, i have driven police cruisers as a taxi driver and they wouldn't accelerate to 150, 160 miles per hour but you can cars that police can't follow with a cruiser. even if it's a toyota camry and if it gets on the highway and there is no recourse and it's not i think you should have orders two, three pages deep and the

officer can memorize it and do the job. i don't see him doing this. it's convoluted and check with the supervisor non step and cut off any given time based on the incident and i think that's a major problem and it comes back to even your -- why the chief is here and mr. mansiewko -- >> you're confusing. >> i'm bringing up to this incident and you're talking about training on the job and this has to be reviewed every two years and the tax and officer has to use proper protocol and if he doesn't he leaves it on the desk and go about doing his job the way he sees best because you have too many rules for him to use immediately and that is a problem and i have seen police in pursuit of suspects in this city probably 30 to 40 times.

no police cruiser in this city can out maneuver a lot of cars on the street today. they may do it on the highway but you can call the highway patrol but you don't have a speed limit here and the police automatically the guy is at 140. we're at 110. we have to stop. that's not even in here so i leave this for you review. i thank you for your time on this issue. >> thank you. any further public comment? with reference to what he talked about i didn't say the police officers weren't doing that and i think they were doing it more and risking their lives and i think you got that confused and you should look at the new cars too. >> and i want to assure the public that 140 miles per hours are routinely canceled. >> any further public comment? seeing none public comment is

closed. please call the next item. >> next item is whether to have closed session and vote whether to have closed session. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none public comment is closed. next item. >> vote on whether to go to closed session and attorney-client privilege regarding to item 8(a), (b), and (c) section 67.10. >> do we have a have a quorum. commissioner chang, truman and kingsley and loftus. >> president mazzucco. >> we're back on the record. do i have a motion with reference

to disclosure or not disclosure. >> move to not disclose. >> all in favor. >> aye. >> please call the last item. >> item 10 is adjourn mentd. >> do i have a motion? >> move to adjourn. >> move to adjourn? >> aye. >> thank you everybody. >> hi, i'm corn field and welcome to doing building san francisco, we are doing a special series, called stay

safe, how you can stay in your home safely and comfortable, and we know that an earthquake is coming and there are things that you can do to reduce the effects of the earthquake on your home. let's take a look at that. >> here at the spur urban center on mission street in san francisco talking about staying in your home after an earthquake. i have guests today, pat buscavich and his dog, harvey and david, and both structural engineers and we want to talk about things that you might do before an earthquake to your home to make it more likely that your home will be ha bitable after an earthquake, what should we do? both structural and maybe even important non-structural things. >> you hear about how to prepare an earthquake kit and brace your book shelves and water tank and that is important. what you have to be careful is make sure that you are not

going the easy things to make yourself feel better. if you have a bad structure, a bad building, then you need to be looking at that and everything that you do to keep your collectables in place is small and compared. if you have taken care of your structure, then there is a lot of stuff that you can do in your house that is non-structural and your chimney and water tank. >> let's talk about what the structural things might be. >> and he is exactly right. you don't want to make the deck chairs safe on the titanic, it is going down, you are going down, you have to make sure that your house is safe. there are basic things that you need to do including bracing the water heater, not just because of fire hazard but because of the water source and the damage, but basic things are installing anchor bolts, and adding plywood and strapping your beams to column and posts to footings and foundations are really easy things to do and most contractors can do the building department is set up to approve

this work, and these are things that every home owner should do, and it is a little harder because you have to get a building permit and hire a contractor. but you want to be able to after a big earthquake to climb in bed that night and pull the covers up and say i don't have to worry about going to a government shelter. >> that is the main focus that it is great to have an earthquake kit to be able to bug out for 72 hours. here is a better idea, stay in your own home and in order to do that you have to be make sure that your structure is okay. if you have a house, the easy things to do with the wood construction is feasible. if you have a renter or you live in a concrete building, you need to talk to the building own , and make sure they have done their due diligence and find out what the deficiencies are. >> when i have looked at damaged buildings,vy seen that a little bit of investment in time and money and structural work provides great dividends.

>> especially if it is the wood frame, typical house that you can do the things that i was talking about, the anchor and the plywood in the first garage area, you know if you refinanced in the last three years, get some of that savings and it is a really good investment. and the other thing that i try to tell people, earthquake insurance is not the solution to the shelter in place, if there is a big earthquake and your building is damaged, you are not in your house, you may be somewhere else, if you work in the city, it is going to be really hard to commute from sonoma, you want to do what is necessary so that your house is retrofitted and a couple of years of earthquake premium could get you to a level that you could be in the house after a significant earthquake and it may have damage and there is still a shelter in place where you are at home and you are not worried for the government taking care of you and you are living in a place where you can go to work and you want to have your wood frame house is really easy to get to that level. on top of the wood frame house, i mean every wood frame house

in the west half of the city have a water tank and the water tank fall over because they are gas fired and start fires. and that is something that you could do for yourself, and for your neighbors and for the whole city is make sure that your water tank is braced. >> if you look at the studies that are predicting on fires, we are going to have a lot of fires and for every water tank that is braced there is a potential of one less fire that the fire department is going to have to fight and we don't want to have any more fires than we need to. so bracing the water heater is the first thing that you want to do. >> and so easy, and you go on-line and you google, earthquake, water and heater and you google the sites where you can find the details and you can put them out there on the hardware store and you can hire a small contract tore do that for you. that is a couple of hundred bucks, the best investment. if you are in other types of building it is complicated. if you are in a high-rise building you just can't anchor your building down because there are no anchor bolts, but

at that point, the tenant should be asking questions of the owner's and the managers about earthquake preparedness >> and don't take the easy answer, oh, our building is safe it was designed to code. that is not the right answer, ask the tough questions and see if you can get a report that has been given to you. >> what is the right question? will i be able to stay in my home after the expected earthquake? is that a good question to ask? >> yeah, you may be more specific if you talk to the owner, if it is not a recent building, if it is ten or 20 years old see if they had an inspection done and there you will have a written before that will tell you all about the structure. >> thanks, pat. >> thanks, harvey. and thanks david for joining us and thank you for joining us on good morning. welcome to

san francisco transportation authority. my name is john avalos. the chair of the committee. the sfgtv staff who are broadcasting today are jessie larson and mark bunch. call the roll please. >> reed present, campos present, cohen present, ferrel present,mar absent, tang present, wiener present, yee, we have a quorum. >> colleagues in route to mexico yesterday we had a

recess today. the recess is to actually all go to oakland to watch mary quan give the -- to steve curry for the championship. we are all going to take a break about 11:20. >> i believe it is mayor lee giving the key to the player of the san francisco city. i think it's the san francisco, not oakland. >> good for san francisco. let's move on with our meeting. okay. next item? the clerk: item 2: approval of minutes of the april 23, 2013 meeting actionsf 2123 >> is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. 1

next item? take the roll call? >> i'm sorry. that's right. let's have a roll call on approving the minutes. the clerk: avalos, breed, campos, chiu, cohen, ferrel absent, commissioner kim? mar absent. tang? wiener, yee, the item passes. >> thanks very much. next item. >> information item. 3. >> thank you. today my chairs remarks will focus on our trip with commissioner wiener and legislative aids, chiu and

cohen took to mexico city. i tdp, a non-profit organization which promotes environmentally transportation to see projects in mechanic -- mexico city that guide the design of rapid transit. i was amazed to see the bus line that moves about ten times the amount of passenger. during rush hour it runs 72 trains an hour. the metro bus has been able to get a number of people out of their cars and onto transit to provide an alternative that moves quickly and reliably. there was an excitement in pride in mechanic -- mexico

city. i think we can see what the solution is when these cost are implemented. i'm glad to see this design in front of us today. we should provide whatever support to implement this in the city. i'm also in couraging the bike lane and bike sharing system has been increased by 60 percent by many people who did not ride bicycles at all in mexico city. it's a way to introduce people to cycling and providing an alternative to transit and helping reduce over crowding in the downtown areas. my aid,

road the transportation system. i was blown away to see many people riding their bikes in the city. once a month it expands to 20 miles of cyclone of bikes. today this committee will prove additional bike sharing pilots that will be taking place in san francisco along the peninsula corridor. i would like to see this expanding so people can take advantage of it's many benefits. i would like to thank itdp and the other delegates

for attending. i want to welcome commissioners wiener to add any observations from the trip if they wish? >> commissioner wiener? >> two things to note. we've learned quite a bit from officials in mexico city about how they move forward with their bike sharing program. even though we are behind them, on the heartening side our general bike structure is ahead for mexico city and i know they are working very hard to advance their bicycle structure and made me feel very good of where we are in terms of bicycle structure and the other is howit reminds me of how in incredibly slow we are in

california in u.s. and actually delivering these products. i object their latest line they have 5 large brt lines. their latest line came within three years. ours, just to get through environmental review is taking forever and will take another 3 or 4 years to get van ness brt built. granted mexico probably doesn't have the same regulatory constraints that we do here in california and ceqa and other facts but it points to the fact that years ago we used to be able to deliver these large important quality of life changing infrastructure projects expeditiously. and today 1brt line